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CheapChildren · 07-01-2008, 08:09 AM

Batman: Gotham Knight Blu-ray

I was lucky enough to preview the film. I say this only because I can now save my money and cancel my pre-order. Overall I was highly disappointed with this release (which was shorter than I had expected at 1 hour and 15 minutes including credits). Most of the vignettes were dull and uninspired. The best one was only moderately interesting. If you're expecting a connection to any of the live action films you'll be highly disappointed. This is more along the lines of the Animatrix, but worse..

Also during dark scenes there were weird blinking streaks of pixels. However, the copy I viewed was standard-def, but the problems with the transfer seemed like they could possibly persist on the blu-ray version as well.

I'm a huge Batman fan and this was just not there. It seemed out of touch with the things that make Batman interesting. It felt highly influenced by the east, but the problem is that this is not a eastern superhero. These vignettes felt lost in translation. For those who still aren't convinced by my mini review I'd highly suggest a rental before a purchase..

Grimshaw23 · 07-01-2008, 08:40 AM

Perhaps, maybe you don't like the style of Japanese animation?? Maybe it threw you off a bit?

Gotta say the animation looks pretty good. It's a different take on the Batman Mythology with an eastern flair. Waiting for my copy to arrive to judge it for myself.

TheDarkKnight821 · 07-01-2008, 08:44 AM

I watched it tonight and I have to say that I enjoyed it.

I knew already that it wasnt one big movie, but different takes from creators about the Batman universe. The one where he fights the Russian on the dock was my least favorite. I didnt like how Batman or Bruce was drawn. I think they were trying to make Bruce a Peter Parker type. He looked 12 years old

It also was much more violent than I expected. It had

[Show spoiler]

If your a big Batman fan (obviously like myself), I definately recommend picking it up.

Sky_Captain · 07-01-2008, 09:17 AM

Still buying it.

Petra_Kalbrain · 07-01-2008, 09:23 AM

I'm going to watch it tomorrow. I'll get back to you about my thoughts.

CheapChildren · 07-01-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimshaw23

Perhaps, maybe you don't like the style of Japanese animation?? Maybe it threw you off a bit?

Gotta say the animation looks pretty good. It's a different take on the Batman Mythology with an eastern flair. Waiting for my copy to arrive to judge it for myself.

Nope I'm a fan of anime, the animation itself wasn't the problem for me. It was the story telling.

Here's a clip.

u_nick · 07-01-2008, 01:16 PM

I 'downloaded' it, because I had heard some really bad reviews. Ended up liking it more than I thought, and will be keeping my preorder.

I thought 1 or two of the vignettes were dull and boring, but overall, the good parts made up for the bad.

SS316SRV · 07-01-2008, 01:24 PM

I am just salivating for the Animated Series. Love those shows. By the way to the OP, to say that the picture quality was bad and that you were disappointed even though it was on SD is a pretty silly little statement.

ryoohki · 07-01-2008, 01:42 PM

Yeah i mean the last Anime Warner did on DVD was UBER crap PQ wise (lots of blocking, banding etc..). There's a couple a Bluray review out there that say the PQ is superb..

lgans316 · 07-01-2008, 01:46 PM

VC-1 BD-25
1:15:59
Movie size: 13,542,494,208 bytes
Disc size: 20,927,801,268 bytes
Average video bit rate: 20.49 Mbps
DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps (English / Japanese)
DD AC3 2.0 192Kbps (English / German / Spanish)
Subtitles: English / Japanese / German / Spanish

ryoohki · 07-01-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgans316

VC-1 BD-25
1:15:59
Movie size: 13,542,494,208 bytes
Disc size: 20,927,801,268 bytes
Average video bit rate: 20.49 Mbps
DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps (English / Japanese)
DD AC3 2.0 192Kbps (English / German / Spanish)
Subtitles: English / Japanese / German / Spanish

Humm the AVG Bitrate seem to be higher than normal WB HD DVD time, back in the days it was 14mbits (like Batman Begin Is)

lgans316 · 07-01-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoohki

Humm the AVG Bitrate seem to be higher than normal WB HD DVD time, back in the days it was 14mbits (like Batman Begin Is)

Yeah but where is that stupid thing called LOSSLESS AUDIO.

Grant Matrix · 07-01-2008, 01:51 PM

Thanks OP, I was really pshcyed for this becuase I was under the impression it was supposed to bridge the gap between Batman Begins and Dark Knight. I was debating on buying it, but will just rent it sometime.

Pouyan · 07-01-2008, 02:16 PM

I actually canceled my order and started buying the animated series and I'm loving them so far

Chris Beveridge · 07-01-2008, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgans316

VC-1 BD-25
1:15:59
Movie size: 13,542,494,208 bytes
Disc size: 20,927,801,268 bytes
Average video bit rate: 20.49 Mbps
DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps (English / Japanese)
DD AC3 2.0 192Kbps (English / German / Spanish)
Subtitles: English / Japanese / German / Spanish

There are reports that the Japanese track for the language is not actually out there...

ZackL · 07-01-2008, 04:26 PM

Took me a few seconds to understand exactly which movie we were talking about.

OokieSpookie · 07-01-2008, 04:37 PM

Sounds like you are a victim of your own expectations to be honest.

vc.hire · 07-01-2008, 05:50 PM

I am a huge Batman fan and I have to say after watching Batman: The Gotham Knight, I was pretty dissappointed. It is suppose to be a tie-in with batman begins and the dark knight but it just wasn't nearly as good as star wars clone wars vol. 1-2 or the animatrix which were also animation tie-ins between two movies. I felt that the story was mediocre at best for the gotham knight and altough I did like the animation... I also felt the films were too short and lacked the action Batman and Japanese animation fused together deserves. If you're like me then you would probably expect a lot from this title but unfortunetly it just isn't there. Sorry batfans but I really think you should give it a rent before deciding to pick this one up.

CheapChildren · 07-01-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

By the way to the OP, to say that the picture quality was bad and that you were disappointed even though it was on SD is a pretty silly little statement.

Not really... Just because we all live in a land of high def doesn't mean that SD dvds are impervious to observation. You can still tell a whole lot about a transfer when seeing it on SD. As I said "the copy I viewed was standard-def, but the problems with the transfer seemed like they could possibly persist on the blu-ray version as well." There's a reason there are DVD review sites..

But yeah what a silly little statement..

Quote:

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

Sounds like you are a victim of your own expectations to be honest.

You could say this about any movie a person doesn't like. It's kind of a worthless statement. Considering that my only expectation was for it to be good. Not great.

OokieSpookie · 07-01-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheapChildren

You could say this about any movie a person doesn't like. It's kind of a worthless statement. Considering that my only expectation was for it to be good. Not great.

I do not agree.
It is very possible to dislike a movie without it tying into pre-existing expectations.
On the other hand, by your own words it seems like you expected it to be a tie in between the movies and you just expected something else out of the product where as if it had come out earlier this year and the Dark Knight was not in everyone's minds then you could see it and appreciate it as a stand alone Batman release.
But it is all moot, people can like or dislike whatever they want though I do tend to have more desire to call out those who feel the need to speak for others.

07-01-2008, 08:09 AM	#1
CheapChildren Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Fort Worth, TX Blu-ray collection:899 Trading Score:2	Batman - Gotham Knight not so good. :( Batman: Gotham Knight Blu-ray I was lucky enough to preview the film. I say this only because I can now save my money and cancel my pre-order. Overall I was highly disappointed with this release (which was shorter than I had expected at 1 hour and 15 minutes including credits). Most of the vignettes were dull and uninspired. The best one was only moderately interesting. If you're expecting a connection to any of the live action films you'll be highly disappointed. This is more along the lines of the Animatrix, but worse.. Also during dark scenes there were weird blinking streaks of pixels. However, the copy I viewed was standard-def, but the problems with the transfer seemed like they could possibly persist on the blu-ray version as well. I'm a huge Batman fan and this was just not there. It seemed out of touch with the things that make Batman interesting. It felt highly influenced by the east, but the problem is that this is not a eastern superhero. These vignettes felt lost in translation. For those who still aren't convinced by my mini review I'd highly suggest a rental before a purchase.. Last edited by Deciazulado; 02-14-2011 at 02:56 AM.

07-01-2008, 08:40 AM	#2
Grimshaw23 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:6 Trading Score:103	Perhaps, maybe you don't like the style of Japanese animation?? Maybe it threw you off a bit? Gotta say the animation looks pretty good. It's a different take on the Batman Mythology with an eastern flair. Waiting for my copy to arrive to judge it for myself. Last edited by Grimshaw23; 07-01-2008 at 08:48 AM.

07-01-2008, 01:46 PM	#10
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Tech specs - Courtesy : House@AVS VC-1 BD-25 1:15:59 Movie size: 13,542,494,208 bytes Disc size: 20,927,801,268 bytes Average video bit rate: 20.49 Mbps DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps (English / Japanese) DD AC3 2.0 192Kbps (English / German / Spanish) Subtitles: English / Japanese / German / Spanish

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07-01-2008, 08:44 AM	#3
TheDarkKnight821 Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:68 Blu-ray reviews:1	I watched it tonight and I have to say that I enjoyed it. I knew already that it wasnt one big movie, but different takes from creators about the Batman universe. The one where he fights the Russian on the dock was my least favorite. I didnt like how Batman or Bruce was drawn. I think they were trying to make Bruce a Peter Parker type. He looked 12 years old It also was much more violent than I expected. It had [Show spoiler] If your a big Batman fan (obviously like myself), I definately recommend picking it up.

07-01-2008, 09:17 AM	#4
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Still buying it.

07-01-2008, 09:23 AM	#5
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	I'm going to watch it tomorrow. I'll get back to you about my thoughts.

07-01-2008, 01:16 PM	#7
u_nick Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2007 Location:CT, US Trading Score:27	I 'downloaded' it, because I had heard some really bad reviews. Ended up liking it more than I thought, and will be keeping my preorder. I thought 1 or two of the vignettes were dull and boring, but overall, the good parts made up for the bad.

07-01-2008, 01:24 PM	#8
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	I am just salivating for the Animated Series. Love those shows. By the way to the OP, to say that the picture quality was bad and that you were disappointed even though it was on SD is a pretty silly little statement.

07-01-2008, 01:42 PM	#9
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	Yeah i mean the last Anime Warner did on DVD was UBER crap PQ wise (lots of blocking, banding etc..). There's a couple a Bluray review out there that say the PQ is superb..

07-01-2008, 01:51 PM	#13
Grant Matrix Banned Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	Thanks OP, I was really pshcyed for this becuase I was under the impression it was supposed to bridge the gap between Batman Begins and Dark Knight. I was debating on buying it, but will just rent it sometime.

07-01-2008, 02:16 PM	#14
Pouyan Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 4K collection:63 Blu-ray collection:265 Trading Score:5	I actually canceled my order and started buying the animated series and I'm loving them so far

07-01-2008, 04:26 PM	#16
ZackL Senior Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Ontario, Canada	Took me a few seconds to understand exactly which movie we were talking about.

07-01-2008, 04:37 PM	#17
OokieSpookie Banned Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:1	Sounds like you are a victim of your own expectations to be honest.

07-01-2008, 05:50 PM	#18
vc.hire Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:110 Blu-ray reviews:1	I am a huge Batman fan and I have to say after watching Batman: The Gotham Knight, I was pretty dissappointed. It is suppose to be a tie-in with batman begins and the dark knight but it just wasn't nearly as good as star wars clone wars vol. 1-2 or the animatrix which were also animation tie-ins between two movies. I felt that the story was mediocre at best for the gotham knight and altough I did like the animation... I also felt the films were too short and lacked the action Batman and Japanese animation fused together deserves. If you're like me then you would probably expect a lot from this title but unfortunetly it just isn't there. Sorry batfans but I really think you should give it a rent before deciding to pick this one up.

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