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View Poll Results: Which of the 3D movies scheduled for 2012 are you most looking forward too?
Underworld: Awakening 14 27.45%
The Woman in Black 1 1.96%
Journey 2: The Mysterious Island 0 0%
Dr. Seuss' The Lorax 2 3.92%
Snow White 3D 3 5.88%
Clash of the Titans 2 5 9.80%
Dorothy of Oz 2 3.92%
Cabin in the Woods 2 3.92%
The Avengers 21 41.18%
Men in Black III 8 15.69%
Madagascar 3 0 0%
Prometheus 12 23.53%
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter 6 11.76%
Brave 6 11.76%
The Amazing Spider-Man 22 43.14%
Ice Age: Continental Drift 2 3.92%
Dredd 3 5.88%
Hotel Transylvania 1 1.96%
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D 3 5.88%
Halloween 3D 4 7.84%
Wreck-It Ralph 2 3.92%
47 Ronin 0 0%
Gravity 1 1.96%
Rise of the Guardians 1 1.96%
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey 26 50.98%
Life of Pi 1 1.96%
17 Days of Winter 1 1.96%
Beauty and the Beast 3D 6 11.76%
Boo U. 1 1.96%
Chronicles of the Mayan Tunnel 1 1.96%
Escape From Planet Earth 1 1.96%
Flanimals 1 1.96%
Hansel and Gretel in 3D 1 1.96%
Heavy Metal 2 3.92%
Honky Tonk Pirates 1 1.96%
Monkey King 0 0%
Monsterpocalypse 1 1.96%
Norm of the North 1 1.96%
Popeye 1 1.96%
Ring 3D 3 5.88%
The Nut Job 0 0%
Forget about all these movies I just want some French Toast 3 5.88%
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:36 PM   #761
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Film ≠ No 3D.
It would for Scorsese. I doubt he'd do a conversion unless 3D was important to the project and it wasn't possible to shoot native (like Cuaron and Gravity).
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It would for Scorsese. I doubt he'd do a conversion unless 3D was important to the project and it wasn't possible to shoot native (like Cuaron and Gravity).
What about dual-strip 3-D with 1.75:1 (intended ratio) for preservation and the digital conversion for theatrical compatibility access? That would greatly support the film industry.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:57 PM   #763
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What about dual-strip 3-D with 1.75:1 (intended ratio) for preservation and the digital conversion for theatrical compatibility access? That would greatly support the film industry.
I would love that, but it would be a first for Scorsese and a first for the digital era--remotely possible but unlikely. If you're going to bother with all that, you might as well just shoot it in 65mm IMAX 3D. Digital speeds up the process quite a bit, allowing better feedback with dailies, smaller cameras, and reduced alignment errors.

Honestly, re-reading it, I don't think the article I posted is very reliable. Google has no other sources saying he's chosen film for Silence. He released a statement supporting Kodak, which said nothing about Silence. It probably won't come out until it actually starts shooting. I could see Scorsese choosing digital 3D to enhance the drama or 2D film to enhance the cinematic quality of a period piece. Either one makes creative sense to me. I'd put my money on 2D and film though.

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Old 09-24-2014, 03:58 AM   #764
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2015

Kung Fu Panda 3 - Dec 23 - Scope - Native
Star Wars: Episode VII - Dec 18 - Scope/Imax - Conversion
The Good Dinosaur - Nov 25 - Unknown - Native
The Martian - Nov 25 - Scope - Native
Friday the 13th - Nov 13 - Scope - Unknown
Peanuts - Nov 6 - 16:9 - Native
Disney's The Jungle Book - Oct 9 - Unknown - Unknown
The Walk - Oct 2 - Unknown - Native
Hotel Transylvania 2 - Sep 255 - 16:9 - Native
Everest - Sep 18 - Unknown - Native
Assassin's Creed - Aug 7 - Scope - Native
Poltergeist - Jul 24 - Scope - Conversion
Pixels - Jul 24 - Unknown - Unknown
Pan - Jul 17 - Unknown - Unknown
Ant-Man - Jul 17 - Unknown - Conversion
Minions - Jul 10 - 16:9 - Native
Terminator: Genisys - Jul 1 - Scope - Conversion
The Fantastic Four - Jun 19 - Unknown - Conversion
Inside Out - Jun 19 - Unknown - Native
Jurassic World - Jun 12 - Unknown - Conversion
San Andreas - Jun 5 - Unknown - Native
B.O.O.: Bureau of Otherworldly Operations - Jun 5 - Unknown - Native
Monster Trucks - May 29 - Unknown - Native
Mad Max: Fury Road - May 15 - Scope - Conversion
Avengers: Age of Ultron - May 1 - Unknown - Conversion
Home - Mar 27 - 16:9 - Native
The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water - Feb 6 - 16:9 - Native
Seventh Son - Feb 6 - Scope - Conversion
Jupiter Ascending - Feb 6 - Scope - Native
Norm of the North - Jan 16 - Unknown - Native

Ratchet and Clank - Unknown 2015 - Scope - Native
High in the Clouds - Unknown 2015 - Unknown - Native
Tinker Bell: Legend of the NeverBeast - Spring 2015 - 16:9 - Native
Every Thing Will Be Fine - Unknown 2015 - Unknown - Native

2014

The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - December 17 - Scope - Native
Exodus: Gods and Kings - December 12 - Scope - Native
Penguins of Madagascar - November 26 - 16:9 - Native
Big Hero 6 - November 7 - Scope - Native
The Book of Life - October 17 - Scope - Native
The Boxtrolls -September 26 - 16:9 - Native
Sin City: A Dame to Kill For - August 22 - 16:9 - Native
Step Up All In - August 8 - 16:9 - Native
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - August 8 - Scope - Conversion
Guardians of the Galaxy - August 1 - Scope - Conversion
Hercules - July 25 - Scope - Conversion
Planes: Fire & Rescue - July 18 - Scope - Native
Dawn of the Planet of the Apes - July 11 - 16:9 - Native
Transformers: Age of Extinction - June 27 - Scope - Hybrid
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - June 13 - Scope - Native
Edge of Tomorrow - June 6 - Scope - Conversion
Maleficent - May 30 - Scope - Conversion
X-Men: Days of Future Past - May 23 - Scope - Native
Godzilla - May 16 - Scope - Conversion
Legends of Oz: Dorothy's Return - May 9 - 16:9 - Native
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - May 2 - Scope - Conversion
Rio 2 - April 11 - Scope - Native
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - April 4 - Scope - Conversion
Need for Speed - March 14 - Scope - Conversion
300: Rise of an Empire - March 7 - Scope - Conversion
Mr. Peabody & Sherman - March 7 - 16:9 - Native
Pompeii - February 21 - Scope - Native
The Lego Movie - February 7 - Scope - Native
Viy 3D - January 30 - 16:9 - Native
I, Frankenstein - January 24 - Scope - Conversion
The Nut Job - January 17 - 16:9 - Native
The Legend of Hercules - January 10 - Scope - Native

Transcendence - China theatrical exclusive - Scope - Conversion
Noah - China/Europe theatrical exclusive - 16:9 - Conversion
RoboCop - China theatrical exclusive - Scope - Conversion
Thanks again for the thread and the list for these films Tigermoth. 2015 is looking good.

Here are the ones I will definitely see in 3D so far based on what I know about these movies:

Kung Fu Panda 3 - Dec 23 - Scope - Native
Star Wars: Episode VII - Dec 18 - Scope/Imax - Conversion
Peanuts - Nov 6 - 16:9 - Native
Disney's The Jungle Book - Oct 9 - Unknown - Unknown
Assassin's Creed - Aug 7 - Scope - Native
Poltergeist - Jul 24 - Scope - Conversion
Pixels - Jul 24 - Unknown - Unknown
Ant-Man - Jul 17 - Unknown - Conversion
Terminator: Genisys - Jul 1 - Scope - Conversion
The Fantastic Four - Jun 19 - Unknown - Conversion
Jurassic World - Jun 12 - Unknown - Conversion
San Andreas - Jun 5 - Unknown - Native
Mad Max: Fury Road - May 15 - Scope - Conversion
Avengers: Age of Ultron - May 1 - Unknown - Conversion
Seventh Son - Feb 6 - Scope - Conversion
Jupiter Ascending - Feb 6 - Scope - Native
Ratchet and Clank - Unknown 2015 - Scope - Native

2014

The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies - December 17 - Scope - Native
Exodus: Gods and Kings - December 12 - Scope - Native

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Old 09-24-2014, 01:39 PM   #765
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Ratchet and Clank? OK that was unexpected. Animated I hope?
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Old 09-26-2014, 04:07 AM   #766
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Yeah, I didn't know till I pulled up that list again. Though I never really got into the games, I can imagine this could be a nice, more aggressive change of pace for animated movies, if they focus on the action and unique gadget weapons. Hopefully the 3D is strong.
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Thanks. Here's hoping they are going for strong 3D in Jupiter Ascending.
Channing Tatum is good in action roles, and White House Down was way better than expected with a Die Hard style to it. Lots of action. Looks like the action could be great here also if they gear it more in line with the amount in the Matrix films.
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120 fps. And I thought 48 fps was fast enough.
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I would absolutely love to see UFOTOG in all its projected 4k 120fps 3D glory! I think it might be very doubtful Cameron will do this as I'm sure he already has settled on cameras for Avatar 2 which starts shooting soon.
Unless Cameron gets a piece of the technology, he's not going to use it. Why do you think the cameras he used are Cameron/Pace.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone shows Avatar in anything above 24p at this point. Theaters (At least in the US and Europe) are going to ***** about retrofitting their current equipment for a limited payoff.

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Unless Cameron gets a piece of the technology, he's not going to use it. Why do you think the cameras he used are Cameron/Pace.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone shows Avatar in anything above 24p at this point. Theaters (At least in the US and Europe) are going to ***** about retrofitting their current equipment for a limited payoff.

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A decent number of Cinemark theaters have already been prepped for at least 48 fps thanks to the Hobbit films. It looked good in HFR, though I'll be honest, I don't mind 24 fps either for the more dramatic feel of it, though that might just be a trained response having grown up with 24 fps movies.
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120 fps. And I thought 48 fps was fast enough.
120fps is useless for films. 48 is almost approaching all we can see (especially when some motion blur is present). Games are a different story as one has input.
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120fps is useless for films. 48 is almost approaching all we can see (especially when some motion blur is present). Games are a different story as one has input.
I'd have to see it first, but I think you're probably right and I agree with the faster frame rate being useful for video games and the response time frame rate. I played a driving game at 30 fps, then played one at 60 fps, and the response and fluidity of the 60 fps driving game was much better.
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Douglas Trumbull is trying to convince James Cameron to shoot Avatar 2 in 120fps 4k 3D.



I would absolutely love to see UFOTOG in all its projected 4k 120fps 3D glory! I think it might be very doubtful Cameron will do this as I'm sure he already has settled on cameras for Avatar 2 which starts shooting soon.
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I'd have to see it first, but I think you're probably right and I agree with the faster frame rate being useful for video games and the response time frame rate. I played a driving game at 30 fps, then played one at 60 fps, and the response and fluidity of the 60 fps driving game was much better.
120fps for a film is beyond stupid. Our eyes cannot see the difference. Sure those high frame rates in games are good as you can fell the difference. But watching someone gaming for example at 60fps or 120fps (or beyond, eg: 144) and you can't tell between them. I wish I could find a quote from Peter Jackson, but he was talking about it and it was mid 50fps that we stopped being able to perceive a difference. Add some minor motion blur to 48 and presto, going higher really serves no purpose (maybe a bit higher then 48 if you wanted no motion blur, which isn't really all that possible when filming afaik).

So why go so high, bigger isn't always better, it can become moot once it goes beyond what we can see. Also 120fps isn't happening as can you imagine the rendering work that would be required. I would bet it will be 24 or 48 (likely 48).
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Dirty Dealing 3D



Apparently it comes out in a few weeks in the USA? Not sure if it's in a small number of cinemas or direct to download. It's basically boobs in 3D the movie lol.
Looks like this one should have some excellent "pop-outs"!
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I found out he means 120fps is 60p per eye. So that is 120p for 3D.
That makes more sense, but that is shooting at 60fps not 120 (just like hobbit is shoot at 48 not 96). One reason I see 48 being the 'better' option is the pulldown errors that would occur when trying to show the film at 24 which is still a very real reality and something it a film needs to be able to do. If they go above 48 atm they almost have to jump up to 72 as a result. Still i'm all for higher frame rates, and 60 would be better then 48, but for the reasons above I don't think it will happen.
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Awesome, thanks. I hope they learned a lesson with the great high medium to strong 3D of Guardians of the Galaxy and go for that, or better if they can.

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So why go so high, bigger isn't always better, it can become moot once it goes beyond what we can see. Also 120fps isn't happening as can you imagine the rendering work that would be required. I would bet it will be 24 or 48 (likely 48).

Very good point. It would take a lot more resources for the rendering farms to crank out that many more frames for a 3 hour film, and cost a lot more too, for a result that probably wouldn't be worth it to most audiences. 48 fps is fast enough IMO.
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Awesome, thanks. I hope they learned a lesson with the great high medium to strong 3D of Guardians of the Galaxy and go for that, or better if they can.




Very good point. It would take a lot more resources for the rendering farms to crank out that many more frames for a 3 hour film, and cost a lot more too, for a result that probably wouldn't be worth it to most audiences. 48 fps is fast enough IMO.
A bit over 48 does still have benifits, and 60 wold just go above that so isn't a bad choice at all. The 120 to each eye would though. Regarding The Avengers, I can't be the only one who thought its 3d was extremely good with the final 40 minutes or so in particular as well as the harrier crash having very nice heavy levels of depth. Did we ever find out if the cgi was done native or converted? Some of the shoots (all cgi shoots) looked like they had to be native (like the first big worm/wale alien thing coming out of the portal).
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A bit over 48 does still have benifits, and 60 wold just go above that so isn't a bad choice at all. The 120 to each eye would though. Regarding The Avengers, I can't be the only one who thought its 3d was extremely good with the final 40 minutes or so in particular as well as the harrier crash having very nice heavy levels of depth. Did we ever find out if the cgi was done native or converted? Some of the shoots (all cgi shoots) looked like they had to be native (like the first big worm/wale alien thing coming out of the portal).
Agree, the final 40 minutes of Avengers is strong 3D and what the earlier mild shots should have lived up to but didn't. Thankfully Guardians OTG went for stronger 3d in every shot.

The end computer animated monsters rendered in 3D, were not converted. I don't have proof of a link at the moment, but proof of the hybrid 3D technique can be found on the extras of Men in Black 3 3D; where they show CGI renders being matched with live action converted footage. I have to watch that short extra again.
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Ribbit 3D mentions it'll be in a theater near you in 2014. Guessing it'll be on blu ray 3D next year.

Age of Ultron Avengers 2 should be something. Great trailer with a much darker tone. Here's hoping the whole sequel has the strong 3D of the final 40 minutes of Avengers 1 and avoids the milder dialog shots too.

Slight spoiler: Avengers 2:
Ultron was created by Iron Man here, designed to take over his role as a protector, but it becomes self aware, like Skynet of the Terminator Series and can transfer it's digital mind into other robots at will from what I read. Voiced by James Spader of the Blacklist TV show.
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