Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by djakrse

I agree the site kept a lot of people talking, but I think what Supershadow did wasn't good for anyone other than himself. The real problem being he did everything in his power to perpetuate that he was legit as was his information. It's downright bizarre really, as if he believed it himself.

Yeah but he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head. Standard approach to things on the internet - unless you know the source, assume it is bogus. I am a Trek fan - if I told you right now that both Shatner and Stewart would appear in the next Trek film as Kirk and Picard, would anyone believe me? He was smart - if you are going to tell a lie, make it a big one. No one had to buy into it but we like to think we know what is going on. It isn't like he was lying about a company going under to manipulate stock prices. He had some fun, it got people thinking, no real harm done. But it is interesting to see how people react to things they hear. Look at some of the things that have been said about this movie and how people are reacting. What do we honestly know? We know some of the actors are in it as well as the Falcon(maybe). Really, that is it. Is Ford playing Han or a holographic message of him since Han died 10 years so? Will Luke have 1 artificial hand or 2 after that unfortunate accident? You could speculate for days on what might happen.

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by djakrse

With the way motion capture and cgi has advanced, it seems a definite possibility and maybe probability that actors' likenesses could be captured and used in place of their physical presence. Perhaps to replace stunt doubles or in cases where most of the film is cgi anyway (sort of like Tom Hanks in The Polar Express). Maybe even as a sort of insurance a film can be completed in case the actor is killed or dies before the end of production. Making a realistic, full cgi film has been done a few times for proof of the concept. Titan: AE and Beowulf come to mind. At some point, in the hopefully near future, cgi can be realistic without looking like something is wrong with it. The Polar Express or the new Tintin come to mind there. Avatar was pretty good. I guess it shouldn't be too far away.

I thought all the stunt doubles in AOTC were CGI. I could be wrong, I'd have to verify. But I know that was a big push from George at the time. I even remember articles of actors scared that they would be replaced by CGI lol.

[djakrse]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

Yeah but he didn't hold a gun to anyone's head. Standard approach to things on the internet - unless you know the source, assume it is bogus. I am a Trek fan - if I told you right now that both Shatner and Stewart would appear in the next Trek film as Kirk and Picard, would anyone believe me? He was smart - if you are going to tell a lie, make it a big one. No one had to buy into it but we like to think we know what is going on. It isn't like he was lying about a company going under to manipulate stock prices. He had some fun, it got people thinking, no real harm done. But it is interesting to see how people react to things they hear. Look at some of the things that have been said about this movie and how people are reacting. What do we honestly know? We know some of the actors are in it as well as the Falcon(maybe). Really, that is it. Is Ford playing Han or a holographic message of him since Han died 10 years so? Will Luke have 1 artificial hand or 2 after that unfortunate accident? You could speculate for days on what might happen.

All standard internet warnings understood, and I did assume all along while I was reading his site that he was probably full of s#!t. It didn't occur to me to the level of bs that he had attained until I'd read on his site for several months (good entertainment for almost a full semester, iirc). I aint mad, if that's what you're getting at, though you almost sounds like you are defending him.... Supershadow! *points fingers and yells*

Joking aside,

[Show spoiler]we will see the MF. I think it was confirmed there was a full sized set created, and we have...

this!

[djakrse]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

I thought all the stunt doubles in AOTC were CGI. I could be wrong, I'd have to verify. But I know that was a big push from George at the time. I even remember articles of actors scared that they would be replaced by CGI lol.

Oh cool, I didn't know. I was just half-arsing the speculation there. Nothing new I'm sure, but we're probably almost overdue for the next film that pushes the boundaries of cgi realism.

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by djakrse

Oh cool, I didn't know. I was just half-arsing the speculation there. Nothing new I'm sure, but we're probably almost overdue for the next film that pushes the boundaries of cgi realism.

EVERY Star Wars movie has pushed the bountries of SFX. From the first Chromo Key stop motion against a white background in Empire to the first main character in a movie to be complete CGI in EP I (yes it was Jar Jar). I hope we see ILM do the same with the new movies!

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

EVERY Star Wars movie has pushed the bountries of SFX. From the first Chromo Key stop motion against a white background in Empire to the first main character in a movie to be complete CGI in EP I (yes it was Jar Jar). I hope we see ILM do the same with the new movies!

Ever see Dragonheart (1996)?

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Ever see Dragonheart (1996)?

Not first CGI character, first main character. The first CGI character was the water creature in The Abyss

[djakrse]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

EVERY Star Wars movie has pushed the bountries of SFX. From the first Chromo Key stop motion against a white background in Empire to the first main character in a movie to be complete CGI in EP I (yes it was Jar Jar). I hope we see ILM do the same with the new movies!

Agreed, but I meant full length feature with full cgi. I remember when Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within came out, it felt like they made the movie just to show off what cgi could do at the time. I meant the FF movie when I said Titan: AE before, btw.

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by djakrse

All standard internet warnings understood, and I did assume all along while I was reading his site that he was probably full of s#!t. It didn't occur to me to the level of bs that he had attained until I'd read on his site for several months (good entertainment for almost a full semester, iirc). I aint mad, if that's what you're getting at, though you almost sounds like you are defending him.... Supershadow! *points fingers and yells*

Joking aside,

[Show spoiler]we will see the MF. I think it was confirmed there was a full sized set created, and we have...
this!

While I do cast a supershadow, nope, not him. My guess is that if his BS level is that good, he was either some frustrated Hollywood writer wannabe, or Bob Orci

Interesting video but I've been fool before - that ship in Episode 3 looked pretty familiar too until Lucas decided to ruin it for the fans. This could be a Jedi mind trick. And was that the tumber attached to it right at the end?

[djakrse]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

While I do cast a supershadow, nope, not him. My guess is that if his BS level is that good, he was either some frustrated Hollywood writer wannabe, or Bob Orci

Interesting video but I've been fool before - that ship in Episode 3 looked pretty familiar too until Lucas decided to ruin it for the fans. This could be a Jedi mind trick. And was that the tumber attached to it right at the end?

Yeah it is the tumbler. Apparently Abrams and Snyder are social media buddies. I'll see if I can find an article or something.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

iTunes in 1999?

Originally Posted by Elandyll

Well, Apple did

Nowadays, no doubt it would open on Itunes, their digital platform.

iTunes was released on January 9, 2001 at MacWorld in San Francisco.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Ryan0503

Not first CGI character, first main character. The first CGI character was the water creature in The Abyss

Young Sherlock Holmes predates the water tenticle by two years, and that dragon predates Jar Jar by three. The MCP in TRON was 1982.

[captveg]

BTW, The Hobbit films use digital doubles for shots of the dwarf company FAR more than people realize. They've gotten that good.

[djakrse]

Originally Posted by djakrse

Yeah it is the tumbler. Apparently Abrams and Snyder are social media buddies. I'll see if I can find an article or something.

http://www.movieviral.com/2014/10/02...s-episode-vii/

[Himmel]

The John Williams Fan Network heard from a source that Star Wars: Episode VII composer John Williams will be traveling to Los Angeles to score new music for an Episode VII trailer on November 15.

"JW received a trailer from JJ Abrams on Monday, Oct 20," the site says. "Still determining if the score will be recorded in London due to advanced age of composer/conductor. 14 hour flight to LA not too kind on 82 year old."

Jason Ward from Making Star Wars points out that Abrams usually teases his movies "with stuff not from the film itself" and that a Christmas release date for such a teaser seems possible.

"I have heard we would see the Star Wars 'kick off' really begin at about the one year mark before the film," Ward writes, "and this lines up really well with that."

http://theforce.net/story/front/Rumo...nth_160550.asp

[Geoff D]

Probably no LSO then for old time's sake, but I'll take Williams' involvement over that of a certain orchestra. Hopefully he'll be in good health for a few years yet, but the torch will have to be passed eventually.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Probably no LSO then for old time's sake, but I'll take Williams' involvement over that of a certain orchestra. Hopefully he'll be in good health for a few years yet, but the torch will have to be passed eventually.

I always feel a bit morbid when I think like this, I mean I believe we should appreciate the time we have with people while it still lasts, and not think too much about their eventual illness and passing. But that said, he is getting up there in age, yes.

I do hope he'll last to the end of this trilogy, at the very least. Which shouldn't be impossible considering it'll be over in just half a decade. If the spin-offs after (and before?) that are scored by other composers, no big deal.

[Rblu-Dblu]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

I always feel a bit morbid when I think like this, I mean I believe we should appreciate the time we have with people while it still lasts, and not think too much about their eventual illness and passing. But that said, he is getting up there in age, yes.

I do hope he'll last to the end of this trilogy, at the very least. Which shouldn't be impossible considering it'll be over in just half a decade. If the spin-offs after (and before?) that are scored by other composers, no big deal.

Probably better to have the spin-offs scored by other composers. This way if there needs to be a replacement you've had some auditions.

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by djakrse

Yeah it is the tumbler. Apparently Abrams and Snyder are social media buddies. I'll see if I can find an article or something.

Ah, another one of those JJ easter eggs that fanboys will flip out and call genius. I suppose that means the Nolan films are a part of the Star Wars universe now

People complain about Lucas and the cgi way too much. While his use of it hasn't always been great, he was way ahead of the curve as usual. Here is an article of behind the scene shots for the Marvel movies. Notice anything?
http://whatculture.com/film/31-aweso...mcu-movies.php

The big problem with Lucas was he used it at times where it clearly wasn't ready like putting Jabba into Star Wars Special Edition. But you can not deny that the sets looked fantastic in the prequels and now everyone is using digital extentions and sets to get more into thier movies. The digital doubles and such are also pretty common now too. So many films benefit from what Lucas did. That is why I laugh when JJ says he is going back to practical effects and people cheered - it isn't what effect you use, it is how you use it.

With Williams, you really don't need his involvement that much. You know they will use the main theme as well as some of the other themes. The rest can be done by someone else and most of the audience would never know the difference. In a way, it would be better not to use Willams - if you want this to be a fresh start, you need to start breaking away from the old stuff and this is the easiest to do. But then again, hard to suck up to the fans when you do that.

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

iTunes was released on January 9, 2001 at MacWorld in San Francisco.

I know, you're a little late to the party.

As I said, it was released by Apple on March 11th 1999 with a ton of Fanfare alongside the new Quicktime (4) and the new Sorenson (v2) Codec.

The whole point was that it could very have an online only (or "first") release in December, if "Into the Woods" does not match their target (in terms of audience type/ popularity).

Somehow I don't see a teaser premiering in front of Big Hero 6, but I'd love to be wrong about that