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Old 09-28-2018, 08:18 AM   #181
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Great looking film. It's just a pity you need to be one of the chosen people in order to see it.
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Old 09-28-2018, 12:18 PM   #182
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I was hoping the UHD PQ would be an improvement compared to the theater, but it wasn't. The dark and color-desaturated look of the movie didn't suit the mostly fun action/adventure subject matter. This is certainly something I wasn't expecting from Ron Howard. This will most likely be a one-time view and set on the shelf disc.
But Ron had to match the look the cinematographer had already developed with the previous directors. The look of the movie is down to Bradford Young not Ron Howard.
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Old 09-28-2018, 12:30 PM   #183
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I was hoping the UHD PQ would be an improvement compared to the theater, but it wasn't. The dark and color-desaturated look of the movie didn't suit the mostly fun action/adventure subject matter. This is certainly something I wasn't expecting from Ron Howard. This will most likely be a one-time view and set on the shelf disc.
Have you seen Rush? It has a similar color palette, but yes I agree Solo did seem very dark in the beginning. The scenes towards the end however look fantastic & so dod the train sequence. It’s a good looking film.
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Old 09-28-2018, 12:44 PM   #184
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But Ron had to match the look the cinematographer had already developed with the previous directors. The look of the movie is down to Bradford Young not Ron Howard.
Since the movie was reportedly 70%-80% shot or re-shot by Howard, it would not have been impossible for him to have imposed certain changes. If he wanted to.
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Since the movie was reportedly 70%-80% shot or re-shot by Howard, it would not have been impossible for him to have imposed certain changes. If he wanted to.
I have a feeling those involved with the making of the movie would know more about it than you. There was obviously a reason why they stuck the previously established look. Howard even says in the extras he chose to embrace Bradford's visual style when he came on board.
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Old 09-28-2018, 12:56 PM   #186
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I have a feeling those involved with the making of the movie would know more about it than you. There was obviously a reason why they stuck the previously established look. Howard even says in the extras he chose to embrace Bradford's visual style when he came on board.
So it was a choice. In other words, he could have chose not to.
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Old 09-28-2018, 12:59 PM   #187
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So it was a choice. In other words, he could have chose not to.
Yeah I guess he could have chosen not to and then you would end up with a movie with 30% of it looking completely different to the other 70%, yeah that would have been consistent. The point is Ron had to go with what had previously been shot, I can't believe this requires so much explanation lol.
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Old 09-28-2018, 01:06 PM   #188
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Yeah I guess he could have chosen not to and then you would end up with a movie with 30% of it looking completely different to the other 70%, yeah that would have been consistent. The point is Ron had to go with what had previously been shot, I can't believe this requires so much explanation lol.
The movie is a combination of daylight and night-time exteriors as well as interiors that look completely different from each other. It's already x% of something and y% of something completely different or not consistent with each other.

I know it's your point that you believe that Ron Howard could not change anything that Bradford had already shot or planned but that's not necessarily true and not support or upheld with anything that Howard has said or what's possible. Your theory doesn't need explanation. It needs proof in order for everyone to accept it.

If the look was so impermissible or egregious as people are making out, I'm pretty sure that Howard would have had sufficient druthers to insist that he got a 70% good looking movie than choosing to 100% embrace the DP's wrong choices.
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Old 09-28-2018, 01:09 PM   #189
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I went to Target last night and this morning and STILL no 4K copies. So I gave up and went to Best Buy, but I really liked the Target exclusive.
At my store,.. the check lane and electronics are empty and the shipper was packed with at least 3 dozen. Maybe it’s because they set it up in the middle of the toy department.
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The movie is a combination of daylight and night-time exteriors as well as interiors that look completely different from each other. It's already x% of something and y% of something completely different or not consistent with each other.

I know it's your point that you believe that Ron Howard could not change anything that Bradford had already shot or planned but that's not necessarily true and not support or upheld with anything that Howard has said or what's possible. Your theory doesn't need explanation. It needs proof in order for everyone to accept it.

If the look was so impermissible or egregious as people are making out, I'm pretty sure that Howard would have had sufficient druthers to insist that he got a 70% good looking movie than choosing to 100% embrace the DP's wrong choices.
Yeah whatever I really like the way this movie looks and have no complaints.
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Old 09-28-2018, 01:17 PM   #191
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... The dark and color-desaturated look of the movie didn't suit the mostly fun action/adventure subject matter. ...
I like the movie, but I agree with this 100%. It was a colossal misreading of the script to think this should look darker than the much more serious Rogue One (which looked perfect).

I saw it twice in theater. First time Dolby, second time standard. The Dolby was noticeably better, but still too bland, dark, and muddy.
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In case you take requests, any chance you could upload this? There's a brief wide shot on the snow planet at sundown with this brilliant pinkish hue/rosy glow, while Val is scolding Beckett for bringing Han and Chewie along (just before we join the group at the campfire site). Thanks in advance, otherwise no worries
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The movie is a combination of daylight and night-time exteriors as well as interiors that look completely different from each other. It's already x% of something and y% of something completely different or not consistent with each other.

I know it's your point that you believe that Ron Howard could not change anything that Bradford had already shot or planned but that's not necessarily true and not support or upheld with anything that Howard has said or what's possible. Your theory doesn't need explanation. It needs proof in order for everyone to accept it.

If the look was so impermissible or egregious as people are making out, I'm pretty sure that Howard would have had sufficient druthers to insist that he got a 70% good looking movie than choosing to 100% embrace the DP's wrong choices.
So you took 3 posts just to whine about the look of the film, sounds like a typical Star Wars fan who’s bitter about the new films. Let it go man, let it go.
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Old 09-28-2018, 03:06 PM   #194
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So you took 3 posts just to whine about the look of the film, sounds like a typical Star Wars fan who’s bitter about the new films. Let it go man, let it go.
You have either completely misread or replied to the wrong quote.
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Old 09-28-2018, 03:15 PM   #195
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The movie is a combination of daylight and night-time exteriors as well as interiors that look completely different from each other. It's already x% of something and y% of something completely different or not consistent with each other.

I know it's your point that you believe that Ron Howard could not change anything that Bradford had already shot or planned but that's not necessarily true and not support or upheld with anything that Howard has said or what's possible. Your theory doesn't need explanation. It needs proof in order for everyone to accept it.

If the look was so impermissible or egregious as people are making out, I'm pretty sure that Howard would have had sufficient druthers to insist that he got a 70% good looking movie than choosing to 100% embrace the DP's wrong choices.
Did Howard stick with the look Young had already established because it was more practical or because he genuinely liked it and saw that it fit the story they were trying to tell? ... why not both?

FWIW Howard says that he liked Young's style because it allowed for (I'm paraphrasing) being very specific with the amount of light being used in scenes like the train heist, which is supposed to take place at dawn (Crimson Dawn?). By shooting largely against blue screen and giving Young the ability to very carefully modulate the amount of light, they achieved a very specific look that both Howard and Young wanted. There's also a happy byproduct of Young's style, which is that CG tends to blend in a bit better because the seams between digital and practical elements aren't as bright and obvious.

In general there's a grimer aesthetic at play here (check the shot when Han/Qi'ra/Beckett/Chewie enter the elevator after meeting with Dryden Voss, there's some gnarly distortion on the edges of the frame due to the lenses being used) which Howard says he wanted to lean into. The movie looks the way it was meant to by both DP and director.

I understand those who say that perhaps a lighthearted Han Solo spinoff should've looked a bit more like TFA than Rogue One, but keep in mind this is a dark time for the galaxy, and the movie follows a character who chooses to stay in the shadows along with other seedy ne'er-do-wells across the galaxy to stay out of reach of the Empire. Throw in the fact that Lord/Miller reportedly approached the project with a film noir aesthetic in mind, and the darkness of the photography makes sense. Clearly it's not to everyone's liking, but that doesn't make it bad; just not to everyone's taste.

As apparently the movie in general is. But that's fine. Meesa like it quite a bit.
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Old 09-28-2018, 03:30 PM   #196
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I'm sure if the movie started with "It's a lawless/dark time..." and then looked closer to GotG and TFA, plenty of people would have been snorting, "Huh. Disney look dark and lawless to me." (It's much much funnier if you say that in a Scottish accent.)
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Mine arrived but I don’t think I’ll ever open and build the millennium falcon. It wasn’t listed anywhere that you would have to build it. I thought it was already build and came in a display box.
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Great looking film. It's just a pity you need to be one of the chosen people in order to see it.
What?
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Just got finish watching and I must say. I didn't have ANY problem with the AQ. It loud from the start. I listened to other people saying it was low. So, I turned it up to -26 and had to QUICKLY turn it down. WTH, it was that LOUD.

Maybe it must be the way I have my system set up. But, after I turned it down to my normal level of -30. It sounded awesome

PQ was spot on as well

Don't know what Disney did but they should have started this from the beginning

It's a shame that the movie sounded better in my house
Like always Lol
This should be in the 4k section, oops!!!!!

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So where in the Star Wars timelines does Solo take place?
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