Will you still be buying Gladiator despite the PQ findings?

[ack_bak]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

i can't wait till the end of Sept. so all of these gladiator hate threads stop.

i would say till after 2morrow but i'm sure people that buy it will be on here flaming it for @ least 2-3 weeks.

The frustration is that this was such a highly anticipated title and has the "Sapphire Series" stamp of approval. I think many of us are just dissapointed. I am not a Blu-Ray basher, I love the format and rooted for it to win out against HD DVD, but we need to call a spade a spade here. "Gladiator" simply deserved a new master and the proper quality control it deserved. I would have rather waited a year or two to buy this if it meant Paramount took their time and did it right. I really hope folks like Bill Hunt can get Paramount's attention on this and something good can come out of this..

And I really hope that "Forrest Gump" looks more like "Braveheart" than "Gladiator".....

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by space-monkey

Certainly not. Not paying premium pricing for a sub-par release.
And, I don't want to be a part of the problem. Just because it's BD doesn't mean it's unassailable, guys.

I'll Netflix it, though.

I wouldn't exactly call $17.99 (if it is purchased with Braveheart) "premium pricing".

I'll be marching into Best Buy tomorrow to pick up both of these. If Paramount fixes/replaces it later, that's fine. Otherwise, I don't think it will utterly ruin my life to watch Gladiator with the occasional "disappearing flaming arrows."

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by RSuarez

I was planning on getting this next week, I am waiting for the review from bluray.com and go from there... right now my answer's a NO

Perhaps when the price drops or it goes on sale I may get it

i wouldn't care if it costs a dollar no buy!there has to a point where you say no to any crappy bd.why even have blu-ray if your gonna settle for less.i don't understand why anybody would buy a crappy bd even for less.the point is the studios need to know they can't pass off bad pq and put blu-ray on the package.one way to do that is don't buy it and hurt them where they will feel it ''in the pocketbook''.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by ack_bak

The frustration is that this was such a highly anticipated title and has the "Sapphire Series" stamp of approval. I think many of us are just dissapointed. I am not a Blu-Ray basher, I love the format and rooted for it to win out against HD DVD, but we need to call a spade a spade here. "Gladiator" simply deserved a new master and the proper quality control it deserved. I would have rather waited a year or two to buy this if it meant Paramount took their time and did it right. I really hope folks like Bill Hunt can get Paramount's attention on this and something good can come out of this..

And I really hope that "Forrest Gump" looks more like "Braveheart" than "Gladiator".....

not that it's the case or an excuse, but how many people were waiting, waiting, waiting, and waiting for this movie??? how many threads were started saying "when is gladiator coming to blu??" u know, those annoying newb threads where people bash the op for not searching 1st.

maybe the studio rushed to push it out per the demand for it and it ended up being a "sub-par" release??

Originally Posted by Col.Zombie

I wouldn't exactly call $17.99 (if it is purchased with Braveheart) "premium pricing".

I'll be marching into Best Buy tomorrow to pick up both of these. If Paramount fixes/replaces it later, that's fine. Otherwise, I don't think it will utterly ruin my life to watch Gladiator with the occasional "disappearing flaming arrows."

i'm w/u. i can't wait for 2morrow!!! b/c people keep forgetting, the sound s/b awesome!!

[robertc88]

Originally Posted by Col.Zombie

I wouldn't exactly call $17.99 (if it is purchased with Braveheart) "premium pricing".

I'll be marching into Best Buy tomorrow to pick up both of these. If Paramount fixes/replaces it later, that's fine. Otherwise, I don't think it will utterly ruin my life to watch Gladiator with the occasional "disappearing flaming arrows."

+1. I'm buying it also to take advantage of the price. Netflix will be shipping a copy to me as well and if I don't like the quality after viewing, I'll return my purchase.

[tvine2000]

Originally Posted by ack_bak

The frustration is that this was such a highly anticipated title and has the "Sapphire Series" stamp of approval. I think many of us are just dissapointed. I am not a Blu-Ray basher, I love the format and rooted for it to win out against HD DVD, but we need to call a spade a spade here. "Gladiator" simply deserved a new master and the proper quality control it deserved. I would have rather waited a year or two to buy this if it meant Paramount took their time and did it right. I really hope folks like Bill Hunt can get Paramount's attention on this and something good can come out of this..

And I really hope that "Forrest Gump" looks more like "Braveheart" than "Gladiator".....

if you read what bill hunt said paramount didn't do the transfer on gladiator.univeral did.paramount did the transfer on braveheart.i guess every studio uses different dupe houses or the one where the price is right.one thing for sure with blu-ray or any hd,you can't use dnr or ee,you just can't!i would have hoped the studios got the hint by now.i guees not.there has to be a standard for pq,but i don't think there is one yet.but appying old dvd standards [dnr&ee]doesn't work with hd.to get a great bd pq your gonna have to live with some grain until hollywood stops using film stock and goes all digital.

[OARmaster]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

I wouldn't care if it costs a dollar. No buy! There has to a point where you say no to any crappy BD. Why even have Blu-ray if your gonna settle for less? I don't understand why anybody would buy a crappy BD, even for less. The point is the studios need to know they can't pass off bad PQ and put Blu-ray on the package. One way to do that is don't buy it and hurt them where they will feel it ''in the pocketbook''.

There...that is easier to read.

Could you possibly be anymore dramatic? You haven't even seen the disc yet. Yes, it does appear that there are some issues with this disc and that is very disappointing. Does it appear to be the worst transfer in history? No.

Everyone needs to take a step back from the ledge and remember what we are talking about here. A movie...a disc...something relatively minor in the grand scheme of our lives.

[Sussudio]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

i wouldn't care if it costs a dollar no buy!there has to a point where you say no to any crappy bd.why even have blu-ray if your gonna settle for less.i don't understand why anybody would buy a crappy bd even for less.the point is the studios need to know they can't pass off bad pq and put blu-ray on the package.one way to do that is don't buy it and hurt them where they will feel it ''in the pocketbook''.

OK....you need to think about the big picture here....this has been stated several times....the consumers that are aware of this issue likely make up the minority of total customers buying this. This is a HUGE release and because members on forums do not buy it will likely not entice the studios to spend more money to re-release it when they'll make major profits from everyone else. I'm not saying I don't hope the issues are fixed, I'm just trying to look at it from a realistic perspective. If anything, I would guess the professional reviews (if negative) would speak more to studios than a few hundred people on a forum (although of course I don't know, I'm just speculating).

And for the record, people don't just buy blu-rays because of the upgraded PQ/AQ. That is the main selling point of blu-ray, but people also buy movies because they enjoy watching them. Calling this a "crappy bd release" seems pretty ludicrous...it's not like this a barebones, theatrical only release. It includes both cuts and loads of special features not to mention great sound. Again, I hope all the issues are resolved, but I think some people are really blowing this out of proportion...as many have stated, rent it first to judge for yourself

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

i wouldn't care if it costs a dollar no buy!there has to a point where you say no to any crappy bd.why even have blu-ray if your gonna settle for less.i don't understand why anybody would buy a crappy bd even for less.the point is the studios need to know they can't pass off bad pq and put blu-ray on the package.one way to do that is don't buy it and hurt them where they will feel it ''in the pocketbook''.

i can't believe people are taking up this "i'm gonna wait for a better release" and "hit them where it hurts, their pocketbook" attitude w/this movie.

does anyone really think that will get anywhere??? b/c the majority of the blu-ray owners out there are not like this. they want a movie on blu and will buy it.

they aren't scowering online threads looking for the latest info on a transfer or what surround sound it's gonna have.

i would be willing to bet if u went to a place like best buy and asked 20 random people buying this movie if they could tell u what HD track it had.

and that's what the studio is aiming for, the mass majority of people that will buy their movie. if they piss off a few by rushing a movie the overall majority want, so be it.

i'm not saying it's right, i'm just saying there's not a lot that can be done when u look @ it realistically.

[Blu-Benny]

Originally Posted by Sussudio

OK....you need to think about the big picture here....this has been stated several times....the consumers that are aware of this issue likely make up the minority of total customers buying this. This is a HUGE release and because members on a forum do not buy it will likely not entice the studios to spend more money to re-release it when they'll make major profits from everyone else. I'm not saying I don't hope the issues are fixed, I'm just trying to look at it from a realistic perspective. If anything, I would guess the professional reviews (if negative) would speak more to studios than a few hundred people on a forum (although of course I don't know, I'm just speculating).

And for the record, people don't just buy blu-rays because of the upgraded PQ/AQ. That is the main selling point of blu-ray, but people also buy movies because they enjoy watching them. Calling this a "crappy bd release" seems pretty ludicrous...it's not like this a barebones, theatrical only release. It includes both cuts, one of which supposedly looks great, and loads of special features not to mention great sound. Again, I hope all the issues are resolved, but I think some people are really blowing this out of proportion...as many have stated, rent it first to judge for yourself

way to step on my post there Suss!!!

but yes, this is the same way i feel obviously!!

[Hep]

Originally Posted by BLUCanadian

Columbiahouse Canada

Oh, thanks, but I don't think that will work for me.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by tvine2000

if you read what bill hunt said paramount didn't do the transfer on gladiator.univeral did.paramount did the transfer on braveheart.i guess every studio uses different dupe houses or the one where the price is right.one thing for sure with blu-ray or any hd,you can't use dnr or ee,you just can't!i would have hoped the studios got the hint by now.i guees not.there has to be a standard for pq,but i don't think there is one yet.but appying old dvd standards [dnr&ee]doesn't work with hd.to get a great bd pq your gonna have to live with some grain until hollywood stops using film stock and goes all digital.

DUDE! Space bar.

[JRS03]

I just watched Gladiator and it looked good to me. Well worth the money....is is reference material? No! But I have seen alot worse.

[Holographic]

No, I will not buy.

Funny thing is, it's not really because of the poor pq. The rant about it made me watch the dvd again and I found myself liking the film a lot less, so I don't want to upgrade it in anyway.

[rghuxley]

I understand why some will not as they want the best from their Blu Ray purchase. I for one will double dip on this and if some feel I am throwing my money away, well, then so be it.

I will add this, if I were only given the option of buying Braveheart vs. Gladiator, my money would be going to Braveheart for sure.

But I will buy both.

[Old Bones]

Sussudio said....

It includes both cuts, one of which supposedly looks great, and loads of special features not to mention great sound.k

I believe your wrong on that , the extended cut is the theatrical (poorer cut) with the added scenes (better quality) seemlesly branched in. So you will be watching two qualities in the extended.

[Kittenz]

I saw a version at a friends house yesterday. The file was an MKV file at 720P ripped from the Blu-Ray version of Gladiator. I watched the scene in the beginning with the flaming arrows and the big fireballs from the catapults.

I had read all the forums talking about missing arrows and seen the animated gifs of fireballs disapearing etc,,,

Even IF I was looking for the flaws talked about on these forums I could not see them when the movie was playing at full speed.

I thought the movie looked very sharp and I could not see what the problem was. I am just hoping this was really a Blu-Ray rip because I will be very satisfied with the image....I am speaking for myself of course.

I will see in a few days when I get the movie delivered at my house.

[Sussudio]

Originally Posted by Old Bones

Sussudio said....

I believe your wrong on that , the extended cut is the theatrical (poorer cut) with the added scenes (better quality) seemlesly branched in. So you will be watching two qualities in the extended.

Yeah, my mistake I was corrected in the other thread.

[[1080-p]]

what's wrong with it?

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

DUDE! Space bar.