Why is Warner still giving us the audio shaft?!?

[DR BLU NEO]

[QUOTE=andyman1970;1269957]Didn't they recently go back and rework and re-release Superman Returns with improved audio? I'm not for a complete boycott of Warner titles, but I will not purchase a title that doesn't at least attempt to improve in every aspect for a Blu-Ray release. Thus I did not purchase Interview With the Vampire, one of my favorite horror titles

I agree. I wanted INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE. But no uncompressed audio track, meant no purchase. I need a big reason to upgrade from my DTS standard dvd. It is sad that some blu-rays are being manufactured without uncompressed audio. I think it's sad that Warner put just 16 bit uncompressed audio on Batman Begins. It should have been 24 bit. Kill Bill had 24 bit audio and had a smaller domestic gross than Batman Begins. Yet Kill Bill has better audio.

I wanted a few older films on blu, but I decided against purchasing.
But with no uncompressed track, then why bother buying them on blu.

[DR BLU NEO]

It is getting sad. Warner is making more terrible audio blus because people are still buying them. I think they are taking advantage of people's ignorance. What they don't know can't hurt them. I suspect some people don't know or understand the importance of uncompressed 24 bit audio.

I think they make more money putting out a blu ray with a compressed audio track.

[fighthefutureofhd]

or maybe they know about uncompressed audio but don't think it's that big of a deal to them.

[AintNoSin]

[lgans316]

Budget: $80m
Domestic Gross: $130m
Genre: Action / Comedy

but same old lo(u)ssy audio and low bit rate encode on BD-25.

Spec Courtesy: Patsfan123 @AVS

Version: U.S.A / Warner Brothers / A, B, C
Aspect ratio: 1.85:1
VC-1 BD-25 / Advanced Profile 3
Running time: 1:49:58
Movie size: 16,92 GB
Disc size: 21,76 GB
Average video bit rate: 16.70 Mbps
Number of chapters: 28

No Lossless (HD) audio.

Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps

Subtitles: English SDH / French / Portuguese / Spanish

[Sith]

good job Warner...

[stow123]

ive bought wyatt earp for my dad for christmas and was having a look at it and on the front theres a sticker saying see and HEAR the difference with high definition picture and sound .Its dolby digital 5.1

[benricci]

Can we merge this with one of the other 8000 threads started by people who just like to b*tch about Warner all day long?

[Rothwilder Blu]

New threads are fun sometime. Besides, it's always amusing to wait for the thread nazis to pop up and ***** about how no one ever looks up the original thread.

[Col. Zombie]

"Liers" is actually spelled L-I-A-R-S. (sorry, I couldn't resist).

And "Yes," Warners has a tendency to suck on multiple levels.

[coolmilo]

Sound is one problem. Many or most of Warner's titles also suffer from low bitrate video too. They lack the HD pop that Sony, Disney, and many Fox titles have with their PQ.

[P@t_Mtl]

So far I find that Disney seem to be the one that really go and put a lot of work in their movie transformation to HD???

[masoud90]

Okay, seriously it's getting annoying. I know that on most of their releases they have the 5.1 Dolby Digital and not TrueHD, but COME ON. It isn't THAT bad. How is it that when DVDs were out, Dolby Digital was amazing but now that TrueHD is out all of a sudden people are FREAKING OUT about something that isn't very important to the overall experience. Yes, TrueHD is WAYY better and more enjoyable and brings a better experience, but if you are still getting a good quality (not great) audio, then what is all this rambling about? It is extremely annoying to see 50000000000 threads EVERYDAY about this issue. If you have this issue, post on the already 5000000000 threads about it and not make a new one.

[tilapiah6]

LiArs*** I know that's already been posted but I figured I'd post it again for good measure.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by stow123

ive bought wyatt earp for my dad for christmas and was having a look at it and on the front theres a sticker saying see and HEAR the difference with high definition picture and sound .Its dolby digital 5.1

not liars, you got an HD picture and you got Sound too Be different if they said HD picture and HD sound.

[uptheirons]

Warner wants to go cheap on their blu-ray releases.

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by masoud90

Okay, seriously it's getting annoying.

Yes, you have no idea how annoying it has been for the last several months.

Yes, TrueHD is WAYY better and more enjoyable and brings a better experience, but if you are still getting a good quality (not great) audio, then what is all this rambling about?

I pay good money to get HD video AND lossless audio. It's not OR; it's AND! BD is not a format that is "good enough"!


fuad

[fighthefutureofhd]

no one is saying that it is. we're just saying that it isn't always the be all end all that a lot of people are trying to make it. the primary thing here is the movie. yes, we would all like the best presentation of our favorite movies. but it's not imperative to enjoying the movie. i, myself, am more concerned about video quality than i am about audio quality. and in the area of video quality warners hasn't let me down so far.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by masoud90

Okay, seriously it's getting annoying. I know that on most of their releases they have the 5.1 Dolby Digital and not TrueHD, but COME ON. It isn't THAT bad. How is it that when DVDs were out, Dolby Digital was amazing but now that TrueHD is out all of a sudden people are FREAKING OUT about something that isn't very important to the overall experience. Yes, TrueHD is WAYY better and more enjoyable and brings a better experience, but if you are still getting a good quality (not great) audio, then what is all this rambling about? It is extremely annoying to see 50000000000 threads EVERYDAY about this issue. If you have this issue, post on the already 5000000000 threads about it and not make a new one.

When the day comes that BDs cost exactly the same as DVDs, your argument will be valid. Higher price should mean higher quality.

[AintNoSin]

I think it's official:

Lossless audio is to blu-ray what anamorphic widescreen was to DVD. Something that should be on every title but isn't for reasons beyond understanding.

Actually it's even more the case. Old 4:3 movies obviously couldn't be anamorphic but even old mono soundtracks could benefit from lossless. After all, one-channel lossless is still better than one-channel lossy.

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

When the day comes that BDs cost exactly the same as DVDs, your argument will be valid. Higher price should mean higher quality.

By the time BDs are as cheap as DVD, lossless will probably be standard, just like new non-anamorphic DVDs are almost unheard of these days.