Why is Warner still giving us the audio shaft?!? - Blu-ray Forum

akbungle · 04-25-2008, 05:16 PM

With multiple press releases on titles coming from Warner only showing old-ray lossy Dolby Digital, am I missing something? I mean HD DVD is dead why continue to punish us?

Fool's Gold and the Bucket List just today and a few I remember seeing in the last several weeks.

jkwest · 04-25-2008, 05:22 PM

I completely agree...its truly disgusting.

DetroitSportsFan · 04-25-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by akbungle

Fool's Gold and the Bucket List just today and a few I remember seeing in the last several weeks.

I wasn't aware of this.

Two brand new movies only have Dolby Digital?

NutsAboutPS3 · 04-25-2008, 05:27 PM

It genuinely baffles me, I can't think of any reason to not include lossless audio on Blu-ray releases. Surely the audio starts out as lossless so that is the easiest format to use for the Blu-ray, they have to actually do some work to compress it to a lossy format?!

neo_reloaded · 04-25-2008, 05:32 PM

So I guess it wasn't HD-DVDs fault after all....

JJ · 04-25-2008, 05:39 PM

Shaft?

I want to see Shaft on Blu-ray. Hmm, maybe not Samuel Jackson's version.

Mr. Cinema · 04-25-2008, 05:42 PM

WB gets a lot of praise for their quality of work, and rightly so. But not including HD audio on a HD disc is just unacceptable. I don't get it. Disney, Fox, Sony, and LionsGate can do this. So can WB.

Arecsa · 04-25-2008, 05:46 PM

Warner, "good enough" is not good enough.

The absolutely disgusting disregard for lossless audio from Warner makes me really appreciate the effort that Sony, Fox, Disney and Lionsgate put in to always give us a lossless track. So thanks guys, we really do appreciate it.

Marcusarilius · 04-25-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

Shaft?

I want to see Shaft on Blu-ray. Hmm, maybe not Samuel Jackson's version.

Daaaaaaamn Right! Can you dig it?!

blukrank · 04-25-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by akbungle

With multiple press releases on titles coming from Warner only showing old-ray lossy Dolby Digital, am I missing something? I mean HD DVD is dead why continue to punish us?

Fool's Gold and the Bucket List just today and a few I remember seeing in the last several weeks.

I agree. Dolby True HD,PCM,DTS-HD all 3 sound way better then Dolby Digital and regular DTS.

wormraper · 04-25-2008, 06:12 PM

Don't forget who we're talking about here. Warner almost never put advanced codecs on their DVD's as well. DTS of any flavor (1/2 bitrate or full) was implemented on about a dozen titles TOTAL on the DVD format. paramount was the same way. it doesn't surprise me to see them following this mantra in the Hi-Def arena as well.

ManUtd · 04-25-2008, 06:13 PM

It pisses me off to see just DD on those Warner blus. C'mon Warner I know you can do a lot better.

cajmoyper · 04-25-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blukrank

I agree. Dolby True HD,PCM,DTS-HD all 3 sound way better then Dolby Digital and regular DTS.

This is kind of a 'duh' statement. And I don't know about 'disgusting', but definitely unacceptable.

KenThompson · 04-25-2008, 07:00 PM

I gotta agree on this one. High res picture deserves hi res sound. It should go hand in hand. Are they being cheap or just plain lazy. We pay a premium for our bds and we deserve a premium product.

ClaytonMG · 04-25-2008, 07:08 PM

Are we sure that we're only getting Dolby Digital and not Dolby TrueHD? Until I actually see the back cover art, I'd assume any announcements might just be some sort of a mistake. Just like V For Vendetta supposedly only having Dolby Digital when it'll actually have TrueHD.

Alan Gordon · 04-25-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

Are we sure that we're only getting Dolby Digital and not Dolby TrueHD? Until I actually see the back cover art, I'd assume any announcements might just be some sort of a mistake. Just like V For Vendetta supposedly only having Dolby Digital when it'll actually have TrueHD.

I think you're referring to "The Perfect Storm" whose rear cover art listed Dolby Digital, but has since been confirmed by Bill Hunt to include Dolby TrueHD (as well as a new encode).

I don't think anybody has posted the back cover art for "V For Vendetta" yet, even though it has since been confirmed to have Dolby TrueHD.

That being said, rear cover art has been posted for "Batman: Gotham Knight" and "Fool's Gold" with only Dolby Digital listed. I have yet to see rear cover art for "The Bucket List" yet...

~Alan

Canada · 05-09-2008, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KenThompson

I gotta agree on this one. High res picture deserves hi res sound. It should go hand in hand. Are they being cheap or just plain lazy. We pay a premium for our bds and we deserve a premium product.

Damn straight, because they are missing a DD True HD track and are not the Director's Cuts (hello you had them on DVD with DTS) is why I have not updated Lethal Weapon or Lethal Weapon 2.

WickyWoo · 05-09-2008, 05:59 AM

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Yes, DD5.1. As unfortunate as it may seem, that is the minimum requirement.

5.1 is not required. Only Dolby Digital or PCM

Robin Hood for example will have a 1.0 mono track. On HD DVD it was DD+ 1.0

jaukerma · 04-25-2008, 07:30 PM

If this true, I will not be purchasing any of these blu-rays. Didn't Bill Hunt say that Warner was going to stop putting DD on their blu-ray releases and start putting next audio on them?

Stiny-Ray2 · 04-25-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by akbungle

With multiple press releases on titles coming from Warner only showing old-ray lossy Dolby Digital, am I missing something? I mean HD DVD is dead why continue to punish us?

Fool's Gold and the Bucket List just today and a few I remember seeing in the last several weeks.

I guess i will be staying away from Warner Bluray releases.

04-25-2008, 05:16 PM	#1
akbungle Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	Why is Warner still giving us the audio shaft?!? With multiple press releases on titles coming from Warner only showing old-ray lossy Dolby Digital, am I missing something? I mean HD DVD is dead why continue to punish us? Fool's Gold and the Bucket List just today and a few I remember seeing in the last several weeks. Last edited by akbungle; 04-25-2008 at 05:20 PM.

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jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	I completely agree...its truly disgusting.

04-25-2008, 05:27 PM	#4
NutsAboutPS3 Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray reviews:1	It genuinely baffles me, I can't think of any reason to not include lossless audio on Blu-ray releases. Surely the audio starts out as lossless so that is the easiest format to use for the Blu-ray, they have to actually do some work to compress it to a lossy format?!

04-25-2008, 05:32 PM	#5
neo_reloaded Banned Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:72	So I guess it wasn't HD-DVDs fault after all....

04-25-2008, 05:39 PM	#6
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Shaft? I want to see Shaft on Blu-ray. Hmm, maybe not Samuel Jackson's version.

04-25-2008, 05:42 PM	#7
Mr. Cinema Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:NC 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:35 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	WB gets a lot of praise for their quality of work, and rightly so. But not including HD audio on a HD disc is just unacceptable. I don't get it. Disney, Fox, Sony, and LionsGate can do this. So can WB.

04-25-2008, 05:46 PM	#8
Arecsa Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:74	Warner, "good enough" is not good enough. The absolutely disgusting disregard for lossless audio from Warner makes me really appreciate the effort that Sony, Fox, Disney and Lionsgate put in to always give us a lossless track. So thanks guys, we really do appreciate it.

04-25-2008, 06:12 PM	#11
wormraper Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Tucson Arizona 4K collection:960 Blu-ray collection:5288 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:571	Don't forget who we're talking about here. Warner almost never put advanced codecs on their DVD's as well. DTS of any flavor (1/2 bitrate or full) was implemented on about a dozen titles TOTAL on the DVD format. paramount was the same way. it doesn't surprise me to see them following this mantra in the Hi-Def arena as well.

04-25-2008, 06:13 PM	#12
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	It pisses me off to see just DD on those Warner blus. C'mon Warner I know you can do a lot better.

04-25-2008, 07:00 PM	#14
KenThompson Power Member Member since:Sep 2006 Location:B.C. Canada	I gotta agree on this one. High res picture deserves hi res sound. It should go hand in hand. Are they being cheap or just plain lazy. We pay a premium for our bds and we deserve a premium product.

04-25-2008, 07:08 PM	#15
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Are we sure that we're only getting Dolby Digital and not Dolby TrueHD? Until I actually see the back cover art, I'd assume any announcements might just be some sort of a mistake. Just like V For Vendetta supposedly only having Dolby Digital when it'll actually have TrueHD.

04-25-2008, 07:30 PM	#19
jaukerma Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:152 Blu-ray reviews: 6	If this true, I will not be purchasing any of these blu-rays. Didn't Bill Hunt say that Warner was going to stop putting DD on their blu-ray releases and start putting next audio on them?

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