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Old 10-20-2022, 02:26 PM   #29061
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Eh, awkward profanity was dropped in the trailer, lame and gauche. Some people can swear as an art form, most people cannot.

If you're going to put profanity in a film, you need actors who can deliver it, like the gents who played the two fruits in Bullet Train
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Old 10-21-2022, 12:41 AM   #29062
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Another take re: Space Jam 2...

The "it's an IP crossover so it's automatically bad!" criticisms are NOT. TRUE. CRITICISMS. OF THE MOVIE. Lebron acting? That's something that could be criticised, but the IP crossover stuff is clearly what 95% of film critics reviewing the film complained about so much so that it's become bland and stale.

Look at the Critics Consensus. They say "oh it's an IP crossover film so it's automatically bad!"
Or maybe oh i don't know, FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO CRITICISE ABOUT THE FILM....

And since when did the first movie have "Zany, meta humor"?
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Old 10-21-2022, 01:50 AM   #29063
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smart people... I was raised at a time where it was instilled in me to NEVER talk about things like that.... there clearly was a reason.
I'd give an arm and a leg to.get that genie back in the bottle for good.

But alas..
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Old 10-21-2022, 01:53 AM   #29064
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Eh, awkward profanity was dropped in the trailer, lame and gauche. Some people can swear as an art form, most people cannot.

If you're going to put profanity in a film, you need actors who can deliver it, like the gents who played the two fruits in Bullet Train
If you're talking about that one part in the first Halloween Ends trailer...that wasn't in the actual movie. Thank god they cut it because that was lame as hell in the trailer..
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Old 10-21-2022, 01:57 AM   #29065
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Wait, which II?
Does it matter? Either way, it's absolutely an unpopular opinion.
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Old 10-21-2022, 02:17 AM   #29066
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Another take re: Space Jam 2...

The "it's an IP crossover so it's automatically bad!" criticisms are NOT. TRUE. CRITICISMS. OF THE MOVIE. Lebron acting? That's something that could be criticised, but the IP crossover stuff is clearly what 95% of film critics reviewing the film complained about so much so that it's become bland and stale.
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Look at the Critics Consensus. They say "oh it's an IP crossover film so it's automatically bad!"
Or maybe oh i don't know, FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO CRITICISE ABOUT THE FILM....

And since when did the first movie have "Zany, meta humor"?
Yeah, it's like "Beetch, the first one was a shameless cash-grab, TF you talking about 'it wuIned IT!!1!'? "

Since we're on the subject of Looney Tunes BTW, Foghorn Leghorn is the best LT character hands down:
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Old 10-23-2022, 09:29 PM   #29067
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Why are so many people obsessed with a movie's box-office take? If the movie's gross doesn't affect your bank account, you shouldn't care.

A lot of film fans seem to think how much money a movie makes justifies their opinion of said movie. It doesn't.

It's kinda sad that these are unpopular opinions.
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Old 10-23-2022, 11:29 PM   #29068
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Why are so many people obsessed with a movie's box-office take? If the movie's gross doesn't affect your bank account, you shouldn't care.

A lot of film fans seem to think how much money a movie makes justifies their opinion of said movie. It doesn't.

It's kinda sad that these are unpopular opinions.
The sad box office takes of the modern era help confirm that folks who see today's trailers, think most of them don't look appealing, are legion.

Of course, there are a fair few of those sort of films that turned out to be decent, especially if they're watched correctly

It's too bad that total tickets sold aren't also as easy to track.
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Old 10-24-2022, 07:45 AM   #29069
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Why are so many people obsessed with a movie's box-office take? If the movie's gross doesn't affect your bank account, you shouldn't care.
I only care because it affects getting more films from a director/series that I like.

The obsession with where a film ranks on the all time top 20 is a little weird.
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I can recall a time here when politics were rarely mentioned at all...

now it's an underlying cancer in almost every thread....
It's an underlying cancer in almost every movie.
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Old 10-24-2022, 11:53 AM   #29071
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Honestly though is casting a black dwarf in a fantasy setting really THAT horrible? it seems what makes it so to some people is that they view it though a waped political perspective.
Wow, I didn't know she was actually a dwarf! I don't think the problem with Tolkien was in the casting of a mix of races. It was partially mixing all the Tolkien races with more races. The entire literature is racist if you hadn't noticed. But in her case, she seemed to have great influence on Durin even though dwarf women were hardly, if ever, mentioned in the books. She even seemed to have some power of song over the rocks. Girl Power. So yeah, that is modern politics that had nothing to do with Tolkien.
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Old 10-24-2022, 11:27 PM   #29072
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I only care because it affects getting more films from a director/series that I like.

The obsession with where a film ranks on the all time top 20 is a little weird.
I'll agree with the "success = sequels" statement, to a point. Not every sequel sucks, although a lot of them do and are clearly motivated by money over story. Some sequels actually have something worthwhile to say.

The second thing you mentioned in your post confuses the sh*t out of me, too. Honestly, who cares and why?

That's ultimately what I'm saying. A movie I love or hate is the same movie regardless of how much money it made. I love a lot of flops, and dislike a bunch of hits. Some flops become cult favorites; some hits are quickly forgotten. I'm not going to change my mind because of a movie's success or failure, or because a lot of people over the years decided they love it or hate it.
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Old 10-25-2022, 04:58 AM   #29073
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Hannibal Rising > Red Dragon

Dragon feels so pointless after Manhunter.
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Old 10-25-2022, 02:36 PM   #29074
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Ralph Fiennes Dolarhyde is what gives Red Dragon the edge for me. Tom Noonan is great, but Fiennes really captured the character from the book.
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Old 10-25-2022, 02:46 PM   #29075
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Hannibal Rising > Red Dragon

Dragon feels so pointless after Manhunter.
The only reason to care about Red Dragon is that Phillip Seymour Hoffman is in it.
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Ralph Fiennes Dolarhyde is what gives Red Dragon the edge for me. Tom Noonan is great, but Fiennes really captured the character from the book.


Pulls up in van. “Ride with me?!?”. We quote that all the time in the same ridiculous accent.

I love the guy and all but the understated nature of Noonan’s performance is the win for me. Didn’t like Red Dragon at all. With that cast, shoulda been a classic.
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Old 10-26-2022, 01:08 AM   #29077
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It doesn't matter to me which is more faithful to the book. Red Dragon is a merely decent movie (I've never felt inclined to add it to my collection) and Manhunter is not. There are only a couple Michael Mann movies I like - and I love them both. Manhunter is definitely not one of those movies.
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Old 10-26-2022, 01:43 AM   #29078
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Its easier to take Manhunters macho 80's cop stylings less seriously I spose but I think its characters do have more nuance to them. Red Dragon feels more self serious but ultimately theres not much behind that, pretty standard hero/villain characters.

Fiennes played a mentally disturbed person far better the same year in Spider.
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Old 10-26-2022, 05:13 PM   #29079
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I thoroughly enjoy the Kelvin Timeline Star Treks. Yes, they're more sci-fi action pictures, kind of a Star Trek by way of Star Wars, but they're still some damn fine entertainment. Beyond is the best of the three imo, it felt the most like "Star Trek".

Beyond>Star Trek>Into Darkness

On a side note, I can't believe Paramount is letting waste away one of the rarest attempts at recasting, when it actually worked like gangbusters. Get the gang back! RIP Anton.
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Yep I wouldnt disagree with that jess, Beyond isnt really a Star Trek film for me but it probably does the best job of being an entertaining diversion.
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