Commentary from the Insiders Thread

[Chris Beveridge]

Originally Posted by blujacket

You abandon Blu-ray because of Paramount, but Seinfeld brings you back?

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[blujacket]

Yada, yada, yada, black bars on the side

[krinkle]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Folks,
I’ve got a party to attend this evening and then I’m outa here for several days…..so, I leave you in the capable hands of other insiders and other well-informed members.

Meanwhile, if you’re in town and like barbecue beef and such, this is a fabulous place to chow down…………………….
http://www.yelp.com/biz/vgEidQX9Dax1hUWCn-dReA

Kobe beef is yum.

[degas]

No blu for YOU!

[onyxx]

Originally Posted by radagast

Wow. You need to be on medication for your mood swings. Just because Paramount did what they did shouldn't drive anyone to despair. You sound like the cook in the Monty Python "dirty fork" skit. Just relax for cryin' out loud.

I shouldn't have to response to posts like this but I feel that I was unclear on my stance on the formats.

If a studio can bunny jump like that I don't feel to comfortable in spending to much money on High Def right now, and that is my choice to make. Many of the movies I owned were low on extras, video or audio (and some were not to good as movies), so I decided that I was going to sell them of and only purchase top movies with lots of extras and value from now on. The Paramount news just woke me up and made me realize that I was spending way to much money on a unsure thing, it did not drive me to despair.

I will prefer BD over DVD as long as it is superior in all departments, but I will not be buying bare bone Fox BD's to twice the cost of a fully featured DVD any more (or any other studios bare bone for that matter). I will be much more selective and only purchase fully loaded releases of movies I really love, that way I won't be waisting to much money on my format of choice and that would kind of qualify as standing on the sideline (compared to before).

With that said maybe you see that it is understandable for me to ask if the Seinfeld collection is coming to BD because I would still prefer it over DVD?

So Sony, bring on Seinfeld, Taxi Driver, Snatch, Das Boot, As Good As It Gets, Dr. Strangelove, Jacob's Ladder, Groundhog Day and make them really worth buying!

[chinewalker]

Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Not at All!

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by radagast

Wow. You need to be on medication for your mood swings. Just because Paramount did what they did shouldn't drive anyone to despair. You sound like the cook in the Monty Python "dirty fork" skit. Just relax for cryin' out loud.

Hopefully, there were supposed to be smilies in that post.

[hoser]

Originally Posted by Oregoncalfroper

Amen to that!

^In Oregon, we don't take prisoners.

[LembasBread]

Originally Posted by hoser

For any insider:

I am having a bit of a debate with someone concerning the passing of audio codecs (TrueHD, DTS-HD & MA, etc.) bitstream.
He claims that none of the BD disks released so far will be able to pass these codecs bitstream (due to some kind of DRM or something) to the new receivers and pre/pros (for example, the new Onkyo/Integra line).
Current disk releases can only be decoded by current and future players internally; while external decoding is only possible with future releases.
What is the truth on this stuff?

It's not the discs but the players themselves that won't pass these codecs bitstream. It has to do with the chipset and version of HDMI. I'm sure one of the technical insiders can fill you in with those details. But, rest assured, when the players that do come out that can pass the "new" codecs bitstream, all of you're previous discs will output the TrueHD and DTSHDMA streams just fine.

Btw, there is not one player out as of now, BD and HD DVD, that has the ability to pass these codecs bitstream.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by *Enigma*

I agree that makes sense. Unfortunately I'm a having some difficulty proving it to one of the more stubborn supporters of the rival format. Is there something that I can link to which provides definitions of the two profiles?

Like most stubborn HD DVD supporters, your friend is clueless. Tell him to read the "Profiles" section of this page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_disc.

[hoser]

Originally Posted by LembasBread

It's not the discs but the players themselves that won't pass these codecs bitstream. It has to do with the chipset and version of HDMI. I'm sure one of the technical insiders can fill you in with those details. But, rest assured, when the players that do come out that can pass the "new" codecs bitstream, all of you're previous discs will output the TrueHD and DTSHDMA streams just fine.

That is what I had always believed...
But the guy was so damn insistent!
More AVMS FUD...

[bferr1]

Originally Posted by hoser

For any insider:

I am having a bit of a debate with someone concerning the passing of audio codecs (TrueHD, DTS-HD & MA, etc.) bitstream.
He claims that none of the BD disks released so far will be able to pass these codecs bitstream (due to some kind of DRM or something) to the new receivers and pre/pros (for example, the new Onkyo/Integra line).
Current disk releases can only be decoded by current and future players internally; while external decoding is only possible with future releases.
What is the truth on this stuff?

I'm not an insider, but maybe your friend is thinking of HD DVDs authored in Advanced Content mode. Those discs require in-player audio decoding. The usefulness of passing bitstreams to 1.3 receivers from these types of discs is anyone's guess at this point, but an upcoming Toshiba firmware will allow the HD-XA2 to do just that, so we shall see.

As far as I know, BDs do not have such constraints due to authoring mode.

[McBain]

Originally Posted by *Enigma*

I agree that makes sense. Unfortunately I'm a having some difficulty proving it to one of the more stubborn supporters of the rival format. Is there something that I can link to which provides definitions of the two profiles?

Here: http://www.emedialive.com/articles/r...leid=11397#iij

[Frode]

Originally Posted by Iceman_II

Paidgeek....

I confess, I have not read ALL of this thread, and I am sorry if this has already been asked, but...

Do you have any contacts over at SCE, and can you give them some feedback?

If so, here goes...

Its great that they turned on the PS3's abily to recognize media servers, it truly sets the device ahead of the pack of standalones, making it a legitimate media center. The only negative is the support (or lack there of) of not necessarily codecs, but of packages. It is great that it supports the MPEG2 and MPEG4 codecs (including h264 and x264) but would it be possible for them to expand the support of packages to include matroska files (.mkv)

For those that don't know, .mkv files are a completely open source package format which allows for video, audio and subtitle information packaged into a single file. Because it is simply a package, the video and audio codecs can be pretty much anything, although the most common that I have seen is .mkv using mpeg4 and AC3.

TIA for getting the feedback to them.

Cheers,
Scott

While I agree that the PS3 needs a much larger variety of codec and container support (especially for local storage and USB devices), there is a solution for your problem Iceman: get TVersity from http://tversity.com/home . It'll do transcoding of codecs in realtime and also supports mkv and various other file formats. If you're using unix Mediatomb also supports transcoding in the latest versions, but you'll have to build and compile it on your own.

Lets face it - there's always going to be a lot more file formats out there than the PS3 can handle. I do have one request though - is it possible to add support for pass-through of multichannel AC3 or DTS to the DLNA client?

[pepar]

Hi, newb escapee - and fence-sitter - here from AVS. Can anyone point me toward guidelines on posting? I've read the FAQ and it was very generic.

Best, Jeff

[Iceman_II]

Jeff, first, probabably not a good idea to pick a thread for questions to, and answers from insiders

A good rule of thumb is to search first to see if your question has been answered, then find a thread that seems applicable, if not start an applicable thread, I don't think there is a minimum post count to start a thread

Other good rules of thumb:
Play nice
Read more than you write
Don't pick fights, troll, or spread FUD



Frode, Already got it - Tversity is not necessarily the answer its off topic, so check your PMs.

[mattym]

Originally Posted by pepar

Hi, newb escapee - and fence-sitter - here from AVS. Can anyone point me toward guidelines on posting? I've read the FAQ and it was very generic.

Best, Jeff

ask question, wait for answer...

[pepar]

Originally Posted by mattym

ask question, wait for answer...

Sorry, I'm fresh from the AVS Insiders thread and beamed directly here.

Never trolling or FUDding. Might seek knowledge, though, in a pointed way. I promise, I'll be a good citizen.

At large question: Is there a unified list of soon-to-be-released BD players and their profile, um . . .profile? Or is it best just to keep one's ear to the ground?

edit: I am headed to the first page and will read the entire thread.

[David Forbes]

Hey, I'm right up the road from York in Harrisburg! Small world!

[Rob Tomlin]

Guys, watch out for pepar!

He has a quite dry sense of humor!

Welcome!