Guardians of the Galaxy

[Another_Dude]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

I thought it was mostly garbage. The humor fell flat. The story or should I say plot, was derivative and cliche and relies far too much on previous knowledge of the Marvel films and universe to function on its own. The action was pure nonsense - all flash no substance constantly breaking the movies own rules. The only bright spot was the prison break, but even that made little sense. So basically, just another Marvel movie.

So you're going to be "that" guy? Do you think you'll crap in the box office thread and this one for a while or will you need to consolidate resources and move in here full time?

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

If all you require is flashy images and quick cuts to engage you, then yes, you will enjoy Guardians. However, if you require context, clever writing, and surprises you will leave disappointed.

To each his own, but this film was so much more than simple eye candy.

It is not the best of the Marvel movies (to me at least) and not the best movie of this year, but it was perfect for what it was intended to be, a light heart, quick witted summer blockbuster.

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by Diesel

To each his own, but this film was so much more than simple eye candy.

In what way?

[Beast]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Not as good as those Star Wars prequels, eh?

Hey now. I like the Star Wars Prequels also. But this was still awesome sauce.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

Humor is subjective. I didn't laugh once. Rocket was kind of amusing, I'll admit. This doesn't matter too much, but few of the jokes registered with the large opening day audience I was with.

It's not hard to follow the movie - that wasn't my point. Context is the big problem. I don't know jack about Thanos or Ronin or whatever the hell else they kept referencing. Nothing registered or mattered because I haven't read the Marvel Guide half a dozen times. It was just lazy writing.

I went to a 10PM 2D showing, so the crowd wasn't too big(maybe 35-40% of the theater was full) since everyone was at the 3D IMAX screening. But they were loving the jokes. Now in fairness, some of these same people laughed their asses off at the Dumb & Dumber To trailer before the movie which I thought looked dreadful, so humor is subjective as you say.

As for Thanos, they're building him up kinda like Emperor Palpatine in the Holy Trilogy. They pretty much ripped off Empire Strikes Back with Ronan speaking before Thanos like Vader was doing with the Emperor and having him appear via hologram. So you don't have to know much about him right now other than he's a powerful, scary dude.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

In what way?

In the way that I said in the rest of that post.

Humor. Wit. Point on dialog. Etc.
Like I said, perfect for what they intended to create and a heck of a good time in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Beast

Hey now. I like the Star Wars Prequels also. But this was still awesome sauce.

This is true...Beast, I'll meet you over in a Dark Knight thread of your choosing shortly buddy

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by Adam_ME

As for Thanos, they're building him up kinda like Emperor Palpatine in the Holy Trilogy. They pretty much ripped off Empire Strikes Back with Ronan speaking before Thanos like Vader was doing with the Emperor and having him appear via hologram. So you don't have to know much about him right now other than he's a powerful, scary dude.

Yeah I got that...because I've seen Star Wars and this so painfully ripped that infinitely superior movie off in such a blatant way that Lucasfilm should consider a lawsuit. This is the problem with so many movies like this that are fan favorites, they spend their time riffing on better movies or referencing them or showing how much they love those movies that they forget to make a memorable movie to begin with. This probably felt more like a Joss Whedon movie than Avengers - with all of the painfully stupid and pathetic references a Whedon product comes with.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

In what way?

• Rocket's plight in the universe, not even wanting to be alive. He didn't ask to be created. He had been torn apart and rebuilt so many times, forced to undergo monstrous experiments that stripped him of what he was. Something he's never been able to get over.
  
• Drax's suicidal tendencies over the loss of his family. Not that we haven't seen it before, but the weight it pulls down on him, and the trouble it causes the rest of the Guardians along the way makes it interesting.
  
• Gamora's ultimate battle to finally undermine and destroy her stepfather, a man who ravaged and destroyed her world, and took her family away from her.
  
• Peter being taken away from his home world, after losing his mother, and having to come to terms with her death, in a new place he's never seen. Being raised by a pack of Ravagers, who would love nothing more than to kill him. The emotional trauma of it all that exists because of it. The last shot when he sees
  [Show spoiler]Gamora as his mother is heart wrenching, and beautifully played
  .
  
• Again, the idea of Ronan as the man who is bent on destroying Xander because he believes it's right, because of what happened to his father and grandfather. His power struggle with Thanos, and his eventually decay into insanity shows how unstable, and ultimately foolish he was.
  
• Nebula as the child who could never live up to her "father's" standards. Wanting nothing more to prove her worth, only to be continually looked over, defeated by what he saw in her sister Gamora.

This movie dealt with loss, and redemption, in a way that most movies don't. It doesn't have try and be pseudo serious to prove its points. It just has to tell a tale that works, and ultimately feels satisfying.

[Agent Bond]

What were your guys' favorite song from Star-Lord's awesome mix tape?

[Astro Zombie]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

• Rocket's plight in the universe, not even wanting to be alive. He didn't ask to be created. He's been torn apart and rebuilt so many times, forced to undergo monstrous experiments that stripped him of what he was. Something he's never been able to get over.
  
• Drax's suicidal tendencies over the loss of his family. Not that we haven't seen it before, but the weight it pulls down on him, and the trouble it causes the rest of the Guardians along the way makes it interesting.
  
• Gamora's ultimate battle to finally undermine and destroy her stepfather, a man who ravaged and destroyed her world, and took her family away from her.
  
• Peter being taken away from his home world, after losing his mother, and having to come to terms with her death, in a new place he's never seen. Being raised by a pack of Ravagers, who would love nothing more than to kill him. The emotional trauma of it all that exists because of it. The last shot when he sees
  [Show spoiler]Gamora as his mother is heart wrenching, and beautifully played
  .
  
• Again, the idea of Ronin as the man who is bent on destroying Xander because he believes it's right, because of what happened to his father and grandfather. His power struggle with Thanos, and his eventually decay into insanity shows how unstable, and ultimately foolish he was.
  
• Nebula as the child who could never live up to her "father's" standards. Wanting nothing more to prove her worth, only to be continually looked over, defeated by what he saw in her sister Gamora.

This movie dealt with loss, and redemption, in a way that most movies don't. It doesn't have try and be pseudo serious to prove its points. It just has to tell a tale that works, and ultimately feels satisfying.

Your post was almost as good as the movie, Walt

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Diesel

This is true...Beast, I'll meet you over in a Dark Knight thread of your choosing shortly buddy

Hah. Nah... I am sick of talking about that film.

I'm just glad Marvel knows how to embrace the absurd joy of it's universe.

[Astro Zombie]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

What were your guys' favorite song from Star-Lord's awesome mix tape?

Come and Get Your Love and Hooked on a Feeling were my favorites. The whole mix is so awesome though

I'm slightly disappointed Spirit in the Sky wasn't used in the movie, but it's not a big deal.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

[Show spoiler]

• Rocket's plight in the universe, not even wanting to be alive. He didn't ask to be created. He's been torn apart and rebuilt so many times, forced to undergo monstrous experiments that stripped him of what he was. Something he's never been able to get over.
  
• Drax's suicidal tendencies over the loss of his family. Not that we haven't seen it before, but the weight it pulls down on him, and the trouble it causes the rest of the Guardians along the way makes it interesting.
  
• Gamora's ultimate battle to finally undermine and destroy her stepfather, a man who ravaged and destroyed her world, and took her family away from her.
  
• Peter being taken away from his home world, after losing his mother, and having to come to terms with her death, in a new place he's never seen. Being raised by a pack of Ravagers, who would love nothing more than to kill him. The emotional trauma of it all that exists because of it. The last shot when he sees
  [Show spoiler]Gamora as his mother is heart wrenching, and beautifully played
  .
  
• Again, the idea of Ronin as the man who is bent on destroying Xander because he believes it's right, because of what happened to his father and grandfather. His power struggle with Thanos, and his eventually decay into insanity shows how unstable, and ultimately foolish he was.
  
• Nebula as the child who could never live up to her "father's" standards. Wanting nothing more to prove her worth, only to be continually looked over, defeated by what he saw in her sister Gamora.

This movie dealt with loss, and redemption, in a way that most movies don't. It doesn't have try and be pseudo serious to prove its points. It just has to tell a tale that works, and ultimately feels satisfying.

Get out of my brain Walt, I was going to type up half of that

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

What were your guys' favorite song from Star-Lord's awesome mix tape?

Favorite sequence was the Jackson 5 song and Come and Get Your Love

Originally Posted by Beast

Hah. Nah... I am sick of talking about that film.

I'm just glad Marvel knows how to embrace the absurd joy of it's universe.

Agreed. I love Batman Begins/The Dark Knight and strongly like Man of Steel...but I also love the more light and humorous tone of the Marvel films as long as it is done right. Which, it is not always done correctly, but I'd say it is more often than not.

[Pounder]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

What were your guys' favorite song from Star-Lord's awesome mix tape?

Hooked on a Feeling and Cherrybomb.

[Show spoiler]Was hoping the Footloose theme was on the tape.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

Yeah I got that...because I've seen Star Wars and this so painfully ripped that infinitely superior movie off in such a blatant way that Lucasfilm should consider a lawsuit.

So Disney should sue Disney over a homage? Okay... whatever you say.

And as much as I love the Star Wars films... if you're going to cry foul over a homage....

You kinda missed that Star Wars was Lucas's love letter to Flash Gordon and Kurosawa.

Not to mention every other thing that is homaged in the Star Wars fllms.

Like C-3PO basically being a male version of Maria from Metropolis. Etc., etc., etc.

[RandyK]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

What were your guys' favorite song from Star-Lord's awesome mix tape?

Hooked on a Feeling and Cherry Bomb

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Astro Zombie

Your post was almost as good as the movie, Walt

Thanks, Astro.

Originally Posted by Diesel

Get out of my brain Walt, I was going to type up half of that

You know, great minds think alike. There's a reason you and I usually see eye-to-eye on movies.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Beast

So Disney should sue Disney over a homage? Okay... whatever you say.

And as much as I love the Star Wars films... if you're going to cry foul over a homage....

You kinda missed that Star Wars was Lucas's love letter to Flash Gordon and Kurosawa.

Not to mention every other thing that is homaged in the Star Wars fllms.

Like C-3PO basically being a male version of Maria from Metropolis. Etc., etc., etc.

Lucas changed enough in his film to where it doesn't feel like a rip of Kurosawa or Flash Gordon.

Not so much here, honestly.

[Tony208]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond

What were your guys' favorite song from Star-Lord's awesome mix tape?

I'd say that prison guard was going to get some

[Show spoiler]pina coladas, but he was probably killed by Nebula and Ronin

[Bizdady]

Btw is "Ronan" not Ronin.



Ronin would be a samurai.