Pioneer Pro-111fd or Un55B8000 - Blu-ray Forum

wdskuk · 07-07-2009, 04:09 PM

Ok fellas

I'm having the hardest deciding if I should get the Pioneer Elite 50" or the Samsung Un55B8000. The only reason I'm holding back from the pioneer is because of the smaller screen. 60" is way too much. The Samsung has the bigger screen but not sure about the picture quality. This is so confusing.

edubb5 · 07-07-2009, 04:35 PM

Get the 111fd! It is a better TV..
Trust me! I work @ BEST BUY in KY

saprano · 07-07-2009, 05:40 PM

The pioneer will have an overall better PQ, deeper blacks and accurate colors. the samsung 8000 is still a good tv, your going to get a good picture from that tv, just not better than the pioneer. if your thinking about getting a samsung i would wait for the B9000 in the fall. unlike these current models that use edge lit LED's, the 9000 has local dimming just like the A950. and its suppose to improve on that tech also.

Another thing. theres no such thing as to big. the last thing you want to do is by a smaller size and later on wishing you had a bigger tv. by the biggest you can afford. you can get a good deal at bestbuy on the 151 elite for a little more than the 8000. you just have to talk to a manager or a supervisor. it should be easy seeing how the current price of the 60" elite is $4800.

And finally, go into the store and see both tv's. see which PQ you like best. just a warning, BB doesn't have the kuros set up property. the LCD's always look better than the kuros at BB. they leave the pioneers on movie mode and it looks dim compared to all the LCD's thats set on dynamic A.K.A torch mode. you need to go to a dealer at see the elites. i went to my dealer last week and their elites looks 100x better than bestbuys. i've neve seen a kuro look that good. i was blown away by the PQ.

Good luck with everything.

sokrman14 · 07-07-2009, 05:41 PM

Definitely the Pioneer.

naturephoto1 · 07-07-2009, 05:50 PM

The Pioneer. I have the same Pioneer and love its performance.

Rich

JimShaw · 07-07-2009, 06:08 PM

For me, it was the 55B8000. I spent hours with the 111Fd next to the B8000 at BB playing my own Blu. I watched one for a half hour then the other back and forth.

I fell in love with the PQ of the 8000. I like the way the 8000 seems to put one into the movie because of how sharp and clear the picture is. It made feel like I was actually there.

It all depends what YOU want. The Pioneer will give you a great film like picture. The 8000 will give you a 3D like, sharp picture. That was the quality that what I wanted.

I like a sharp, clear, crisp sound along with the same quality in the picture.

.

Newmason · 07-09-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edubb5

Get the 111fd! It is a better TV..
Trust me! I work @ BEST BUY in KY

So I can trust you, when all you blue-barries say the $75 hdmi monster cables will make my new tv look way better! Yeah right!

But get what you think looks better and can afford.

wdskuk · 07-08-2009, 06:39 PM

I wish I had the money for the Pioneer Pro-151fd elite. Anybody know any specials deals for this TV right now. The Samsung un55b8000 is a great TV but what I'm concern with this tv is the PQ. The clouding and dark corners is what really putting me off on this set. Everything on the Pioneer Pro-111fd is perfect. Just wish it was little bigger. Still so confused here. Anyone have a picture comparison of the TV's. Maybe a setup of each TV.

JimShaw · 07-08-2009, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdskuk

I wish I had the money for the Pioneer Pro-151fd elite. Anybody know any specials deals for this TV right now. The Samsung un55b8000 is a great TV but what I'm concern with this tv is the PQ. The clouding and dark corners is what really putting me off on this set. Everything on the Pioneer Pro-111fd is perfect. Just wish it was little bigger. Still so confused here. Anyone have a picture comparison of the TV's. Maybe a setup of each TV.

That was my fear also from reading this and other forums. What I found after my purchase, the TV was not what I read. The PQ is fantastic. So much so, I don't really need a calibration but I am going to do it anyway only because. Because it might get better. I don't see how but for $250.00 I'll see.

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HeavyHitter · 07-08-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimShaw

That was my fear also from reading this and other forums. What I found after my purchase, the TV was not what I read. The PQ is fantastic. So much so, I don't really need a calibration but I am going to do it anyway only because. Because it might get better. I don't see how but for $250.00 I'll see.

.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised - hopefully he's well experienced and has a reputation. Do not go through Best Buy, etc.. One of the better known traveling calibrators is ideal.

JimShaw · 07-08-2009, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised - hopefully he's well experienced and has a reputation. Do not go through Best Buy, etc.. One of the better known traveling calibrators is ideal.

I hope so.

Here is who I have been considering

http://www.coastcalibration.com/

Anyone know him???

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RIPSeanTaylor21 · 07-08-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdskuk

Ok fellas

I'm having the hardest deciding if I should get the Pioneer Elite 50" or the Samsung Un55B8000. The only reason I'm holding back from the pioneer is because of the smaller screen. 60" is way too much. The Samsung has the bigger screen but not sure about the picture quality. This is so confusing.

ur joking?

JimShaw · 07-08-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIPSeanTaylor21

ur joking?

My guess is your are disturbed and cannot understand why some one would even consider a Pioneer. Correct?

.

wafi · 07-08-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimShaw

My guess is your are disturbed and cannot understand why some one would even consider a Pioneer. Correct?

.

I thought Sean had both...a sammy and a pio. Now I'm confused

wdskuk · 07-08-2009, 08:27 PM

I'm even more confused. The longer I wait the more those pioneers will be gone. What do I do. I don't know

wafi · 07-08-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdskuk

I'm even more confused. The longer I wait the more those pioneers will be gone. What do I do. I don't know

Well first off..you gotta decide on one of them for starters then when you're done deciding fret not about the other one. There will always be better TVs around the corner, get the one that "speaks" to you and be content.

JimShaw · 07-08-2009, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wafi

I thought Sean had both...a sammy and a pio. Now I'm confused

I was too regarding his answer.

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RISE23_BLU · 07-09-2009, 04:46 PM

The Pioneer is the Best TV out 2 years in a row!

07-07-2009, 04:09 PM	#1
wdskuk Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Illinois	Pioneer Pro-111fd or Un55B8000 Ok fellas I'm having the hardest deciding if I should get the Pioneer Elite 50" or the Samsung Un55B8000. The only reason I'm holding back from the pioneer is because of the smaller screen. 60" is way too much. The Samsung has the bigger screen but not sure about the picture quality. This is so confusing.

07-07-2009, 05:40 PM	#3
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	The pioneer will have an overall better PQ, deeper blacks and accurate colors. the samsung 8000 is still a good tv, your going to get a good picture from that tv, just not better than the pioneer. if your thinking about getting a samsung i would wait for the B9000 in the fall. unlike these current models that use edge lit LED's, the 9000 has local dimming just like the A950. and its suppose to improve on that tech also. Another thing. theres no such thing as to big. the last thing you want to do is by a smaller size and later on wishing you had a bigger tv. by the biggest you can afford. you can get a good deal at bestbuy on the 151 elite for a little more than the 8000. you just have to talk to a manager or a supervisor. it should be easy seeing how the current price of the 60" elite is $4800. And finally, go into the store and see both tv's. see which PQ you like best. just a warning, BB doesn't have the kuros set up property. the LCD's always look better than the kuros at BB. they leave the pioneers on movie mode and it looks dim compared to all the LCD's thats set on dynamic A.K.A torch mode. you need to go to a dealer at see the elites. i went to my dealer last week and their elites looks 100x better than bestbuys. i've neve seen a kuro look that good. i was blown away by the PQ. Good luck with everything. Last edited by saprano; 07-07-2009 at 05:51 PM.

07-07-2009, 06:08 PM	#6
JimShaw Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Menifee, CA 4K collection:49 Blu-ray collection:1069 Trading Score:141	For me, it was the 55B8000. I spent hours with the 111Fd next to the B8000 at BB playing my own Blu. I watched one for a half hour then the other back and forth. I fell in love with the PQ of the 8000. I like the way the 8000 seems to put one into the movie because of how sharp and clear the picture is. It made feel like I was actually there. It all depends what YOU want. The Pioneer will give you a great film like picture. The 8000 will give you a 3D like, sharp picture. That was the quality that what I wanted. I like a sharp, clear, crisp sound along with the same quality in the picture. . Last edited by JimShaw; 07-07-2009 at 09:21 PM.

07-09-2009, 04:46 PM	#18
RISE23_BLU Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Northeast Home Theater Gallery:40 4K collection:81 Blu-ray collection:435	The Pioneer! Nothing else needs to be said.... The Pioneer is the Best TV out 2 years in a row!

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07-07-2009, 04:35 PM	#2
edubb5 Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:LEXINGTON KY Home Theater Gallery:24	Get the 111fd! It is a better TV.. Trust me! I work @ BEST BUY in KY

07-07-2009, 05:41 PM	#4
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07-07-2009, 05:50 PM	#5
naturephoto1 Blu-ray Ninja Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Breinigsville, PA Home Theater Gallery:260 4K collection:21 Blu-ray collection:263	The Pioneer. I have the same Pioneer and love its performance. Rich

07-08-2009, 06:39 PM	#8
wdskuk Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Illinois	I wish I had the money for the Pioneer Pro-151fd elite. Anybody know any specials deals for this TV right now. The Samsung un55b8000 is a great TV but what I'm concern with this tv is the PQ. The clouding and dark corners is what really putting me off on this set. Everything on the Pioneer Pro-111fd is perfect. Just wish it was little bigger. Still so confused here. Anyone have a picture comparison of the TV's. Maybe a setup of each TV.

07-08-2009, 08:27 PM	#15
wdskuk Junior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Illinois	I'm even more confused. The longer I wait the more those pioneers will be gone. What do I do. I don't know

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