Non-Pixar Cartoons on BD. Yay or Nay???

[enialal]

Check the comparison of the DVD and Blu-ray of Monster's Inc. You'll see a big difference.

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by enialal

Check the comparison of the DVD and Blu-ray of Monster's Inc. You'll see a big difference.

True but I think the OP wants to know how animation looks like on Blu-ray other than Pixar titles

[EnderEightyFour]

Including The Simpons and the Futurama movies, I have seen Afro Samurai, Afro Samurai Resurrection, The Venture Brothers Season 3, and Paprika on BD.

The Afro Samurai stuff was absolutely stunning. I owned originally owned Afro Samurai on DVD and I was blown away with the sharpness and vibrancy of colors on the BD. Resurrection looks even better.

The Venture Brothers is a very simple (clean) looking show anyway, but the lines were razor sharp on BD, and again great vibrant colors. I have only seen the TV broadcast version however, never DVD.

Paprika is a must own BD title IMO. Besides being just a general trip, the art is well detailed and crystal clear on BD. I noticed things on the BD that I had never seen on the DVD version. It is also one of the most colorful, cornea searing movies (in a good way) that I have come across. The colors on the DVD seemed to bleed while they were sharp and intense on BD.

Audio on these movies is what you come to expect with a BD.

So far, all of the BD animation titles that I have seen are significantly better than their DVD counterparts.

[F-Man]

I prefer the improvement from SD hand drawn animated movies to HD compared to live action films. I can't believe how many people think there "can't be that much of a difference" for those films.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by jaydee808

I'm looking to pickup Aladdin and Lion King and know it's not out on BD yet. My question is are cartoons PQ and AQ on BD a lot superior to DVD?
If it is, I'll probably wait for BD even though it may be a while.

Thanks

Yes. Significantly.

[Batman1980]

I say yes as long as the animation style justifies it or you don't have the movie on DVD. Blu-ray will generally clean up the picture and fill the colors up better, making for a much better picture.

[Octavio]

I want all Miyazaki films on BD!

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by Octavio

I want all Miyazaki films on BD!

I agree but I think for America we will get Ponyo first assuming it comes out same date as the dvd release.

[Edawg72]

Originally Posted by Octavio

I want all Miyazaki films on BD!

Especially Castle In The Sky!!!Watched that the most with my son!!

[Batman1980]

I want Do you Remember Love on blu-ray, especially since it's not really available on any format right now.

[Kyo28]

Just a side-note: technically speaking Akira, Dragon Ball Z and Miyazaki movies aren't cartoons, they're anime. I always cringe when anime and cartoons get thrown together in the same pot.

As for the question, I would say Simpsons and Futurama look awesome but have indeed received quite a bit of digital tweaking.

Other examples of how cartoons can look good on Blu are the animated Marvel one-shots: Hulk vs, The Invincible IronMan, etc or the DC animated one-shots, like Green Lantern.

[GMLSKIS]

Tinkerbell has the best picture quality of anything I've seen.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Kyo28

Just a side-note: technically speaking Akira, Dragon Ball Z and Miyazaki movies aren't cartoons, they're anime. I always cringe when anime and cartoons get thrown together in the same pot.

Cartoon in this sense is used as a general term for animation (check out the linked Wikipedia articles for other things the term might apply to). Not all cartoons are anime, but to say that an anime is not a cartoon is to decry the true word because it "babyfies" the art-form. It's crap like this that make people use the COMPLETELY incorrect term "graphic novel" when in reality it's a comic book. It's even gotten so bad that hardcover collected editions of individual comic book issues are called graphic novels. It's terrible.

In other words, Spirited Away is a cartoon and Watchmen is a comic book. Deal with it.

As for the question, I would say Simpsons and Futurama look awesome but have indeed received quite a bit of digital tweaking.

Digital tweaking NOTHING. They are animated digitally. They never touch cels.

Other examples of how cartoons can look good on Blu are the animated Marvel one-shots: Hulk vs, The Invincible IronMan, etc or the DC animated one-shots, like Green Lantern.

Yeah, if you're going to talk about traditional-style animation in general, the Marvel and DC cartoons are worth noticing, although I would say that each subsequent one looks better than the one that came before it.

Originally Posted by GMLSKIS

Tinkerbell has the best picture quality of anything I've seen.

Those are CG renders. I think the point of the thread is to talk about traditional "2-D" animation.

ps I would like to echo what F-Man said. For traditional animation, the line art serves as a hard-edged place where the higher resolution really shines. The reason is that edges in color is where higher resolution is most needed, and it doesn't get any harder of an edge than lineart in traditional animation. This is most apparent in traditional animation when it's created digitally, but Disney has proven that good remastering can show off nice edges of cel animated works as well.

[Kyo28]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Cartoon in this sense is used as a general term for animation (check out the linked Wikipedia articles for other things the term might apply to). Not all cartoons are anime, but to say that an anime is not a cartoon is to decry the true word because it "babyfies" the art-form. It's crap like this that make people use the COMPLETELY incorrect term "graphic novel" when in reality it's a comic book. It's even gotten so bad that hardcover collected editions of individual comic book issues are called graphic novels. It's terrible.

In other words, Spirited Away is a cartoon and Watchmen is a comic book. Deal with it.

I'm sorry but I don't see it that way. The way I understand it:
- cartoon = western-style animation
- Anime = Japanese-style animation
Both fall under the general term 'animation'. I've never seen Sen to chihiro (Spirited Away) being referred to as a cartoon, at least not by people that know the existence of the word 'anime.

If cartoon were to be the general term and anime a sub-type of cartoons, how then would you identify western-style only animation? Do you call it western cartoons or something like that?

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Kyo28

I'm sorry but I don't see it that way.

Just because your understanding differs from the rest of the world doesn't mean that the rest of the world is wrong.

To put it bluntly, you use "cartoon" to refer to a specific subgroup, when in fact the term applies to all subgroups of this type. The term is usually avoided in favor of more specific terms where appropriate (like Akira being "anime") and is often dropped in favor of more sophisticated terms (e.g., The Tales of the Black Freighter is more likely to be referred to as simply "animation" than a "cartoon" due to its mature nature), but that doesn't mean they don't all fall under the same category along with all traditional animation.

[Kirsty_Mc]

Boy... do some folk get hung up on semantics around here

[steve_dave]

I'm just hoping that Disney will finally get to their modern age classics like Hercules. The 720p HD presention on ABC Family was awesome but a 1080p presentation in DTS-HD MA is going to be amazing especially with the songs.

Lilo and Stitch looks great upconverted and sounds awesome at half-bit rate DTS but Blu-ray Disc is going to really allow the watercolor backgrounds, details, and the incredible soundmix to shine.

I watched Mulan last night and it also looked great upconverted but I'd love to see this in HD.

My other favorite modern age Disney Classics are Tarzan and The Emperor's New Groove, along with The Little Mermaid & Beauty and the Beast.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Kirsty_Mc

Boy... do some folk get hung up on semantics around here

Well tbh anime fans are SICK of the stereotype that anime is just a children's cartoon from Japan. While some of it is kiddie, a lot of is has adult content and if more people knew that anime would be a lot more popular. TBH while Pixar IS incredible, there are also studios in Japans who put out excellent movies and they've been doing it for a LOT longer.

[sub-zero]

I would love to see the Looney Toon golden collections on blu.


Also would like to see some afghanistanimation

[Kirsty_Mc]

Originally Posted by meister

I would love to see the Looney Toon golden collections on blu.


Also would like to see some afghanistanimation

Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry would be great. The Fred ****by ones would look a treat on Blu-ray... the inferior drawn later years Chuck Jones types would look embarrassing.... not worthy.