Cheap Chinese Hd Dud Player

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Originally Posted by moweeis

Didn't Funai promise us a cheap Blu-ray in 2007 aswell ? no worries! This won't affect christmas sales as long as our cheaper players comes out aswell

There is no announcement from Funai. However, I've been told one is coming.

But, I wouldn't expect anything until closer to US Thanksgiving. My guess is(this is only a guess) the cheaper BD players will arrive in time for Black Friday and be the low cost players through the Xmas season.

Gary

[mattym]

this is the danger poiint for BD, it doesnt matter how good the release schedule is for BD, there will still be people who go buy this type of tat as they are on limited income, it may be pants, but it will sell. the cashpot bonus to paramount was connected to this announcement, its time for the BDA to start pulling counter-rabbits out of its collective hat.

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Originally Posted by bosels11

I hate to say it, but plenty of uninformed people who dont know anything about electronics buy cheap pieces of crap! And they deserve it when it breaks 3 months later. Only a few of us know who the good name brands are. I would probably think that about 95% percent of people buy due to price, no matter who makes it.

But would they buy something without looking at the price of the software?

Let's face it, those 95% are going to barf at the prices we consider a bargain.

Gary

[dabenigma]

here is a couple links about this player.

venturer
High-defdigest

[jason_grumpy]

Originally Posted by shug7272

I dont see how a 199 player is going to win the war for them when they have had sub 299 players for a while now... So saving literally tens of dollars is gonna win it? Not to mention its a shit player that cant do full HD. Not to mention the PS3, which is always a big wild card.

Hahahaha 1080i.

No dates set. No Price set. Yawn. Wake me up when it's reality. Just a fluff PR saying before the Holidays. At least it has an HDMI connection

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Dolby TrueHD rounds out the high definition experience by presenting the HD DVD disc soundtrack as it was meant to be heard, virtually equal to the studio master.

Presumably that means the vast majority of HD DVD are not presenting the soundtrack as it was meant to be heard?

Glad someone admitted that.

[spam.curitiba]

Please....How the hell is this going to off....The poeple that buy electronics from walmart aren't the most sound income people. I bet 97% of those poeple don't even have a hdtv let alone hdmi inputs (I only saw hdmi output on that press). So.....some dumbass is going to buy this player and think it will work with their tv and find out it doesn't and either:
A) Have to fork out over 1k for a new tv that will support it.
or
B) Not even be able to watch a HD movie on their tv.


Plus, I bet there is a blu-ray player out by then that is 250 and can do true HD (1080p)

[dialog_gvf]

With Toshiba's HD-A2 retailing at under $250, and the Xbox 360 Add-on at under $179, it's a good bet that the Venturer player might break below the $150 mark.

I don't quite follow that logic. Shouldn't it be between the Toshiba and just a drive?

It's a good bet to kill the sales of the add-on once and for all?

Gary

[CAB]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

P.S. When an Canadian company starts talking about playing the North American market, that usually is an indication of a severe lack of competition.

See there you have me confused. HD-DVD is all about wanting competition and with Microsoft as a huge backer, how can we doubt it?

*sarcasm off*

I agree completely in what you've stated. There is close zero competition in HD-DVD.

[CAB]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

But would they buy something without looking at the price of the software?

Let's face it, those 95% are going to barf at the prices we consider a bargain.

Gary

Good point. And I wonder if the five HD-DVD (or BD for that matter) will apply to the $199.99 player.

[Teazle]

Originally Posted by spam.curitiba

Please....How the hell is this going to off....The poeple that buy electronics from walmart aren't the most sound income people. I bet 97% of those poeple don't even have a hdtv let alone hdmi inputs (I only saw hdmi output on that press). So.....some dumbass is going to buy this player and think it will work with their tv and find out it doesn't and either:
A) Have to fork out over 1k for a new tv that will support it.
or
B) Not even be able to watch a HD movie on their tv.
...

To be fair, the press release does say:

the SHD7000 is designed to be compatible with the vast majority of HDTVs already in North American consumers' homes.

i.e. they are not trying to sell to people without HDTVs. You're raising a doubt whether much of the target market is shopping at Wal-Mart ... good question. But even if they aren't, maybe the low price would be enough to draw a few of them in.

[bmr76]

Thank you, I also work at a brick and mortar location. I work in the electronics and the bdps300 outsells the hd dvd 4:1 at our location, and thats at 499.99 versus 299.99.hd dvd.

[CAB]

I wanna see Bestbuy sell these and hang the $100 Monster HDMI cables right above them!

[Teazle]

Originally Posted by CAB

Good point. And I wonder if the five HD-DVD (or BD for that matter) will apply to the $199.99 player.

Yeah, in that case the discounts start to get ridiculous. After a point you are departing even from the games console business model. Not only do you take a big hit on the hardware in return for a chunk of the software sales, you even accept a hit on the software too.

[bryaaaant]

Originally Posted by CAB

Good point. And I wonder if the five HD-DVD (or BD for that matter) will apply to the $199.99 player.

Doesn't that offer end this month?

[bmr76]

do you think this player will affect the funais prices? lets say this player is 199.99 and funais were supposed to retail for 299.99- does sony eat the hundred dollars, or do they not play the price war- being that the funai will be 1080p and venturer is 1080i. Does the venturer even have component video out?

[Blus Brother]

Originally Posted by shug7272

I dont see how a 199 player is going to win the war for them when they have had sub 299 players for a while now... So saving literally tens of dollars is gonna win it? Not to mention its a shit player that cant do full HD. Not to mention the PS3, which is always a big wild card.

and I see that the PS3 was back to no.1 on Amazon today - currently #2

[joeorc]

Originally Posted by bmr76

is their any new news on the funais?. What price point do you think this Venturer will be? Ive never heard of them.

Funai is also going to ship before the end of the year OF 2007:

FROM aug 7th 2007

http://www.funaiworld.com/investors/...df/ks_e561.pdf

pages 11 #7 "strategy of DVD" list : 3
and
pages 12 #9 "Geographic market strategy" list : 1

they are already have a LCD TV lined up for this player...

and the HD TV to go along with this player....

SYLVANIA LC420SS8 – 42" 1080p Full HD LCD TV


The elegantly designed SYLVANIA LC420SS8 42" Wide HDTV LCD TV with Full HD 1080p provides the ultimate home entertainment experience with stunning picture quality. Fully loaded with a vast array of features, including HDTV compatibility, the special, limited edition LC420SS8 also provides convenient Sound Control options.

Features
42” FULL HD 1080P LCD DISPLAY:
The Full HD 1080p display gives you widescreen HD resolution of 1080P(1920 x 1080 pixels). The main benefits of an LCD screen include the crystal clarity of images and their extremely compact form factor.
HIGHEST RESOLUTION AVAILABLE:
Experience the best TV image possible! The LC420SS8 offers HD resolution of 1080p—that’s the highest resolution available for a consumer HDTV. For unsurpassed video quality, hook up this 1080p TV to a Blu-ray Disc player (sold separately) and watch 1080p Blu-ray movies. The TV also includes a built-in HD (ATSC) tuner, so there's no need to buy an extra component.
CLEAR PIX ENGINE PLUS:
SYLVANIA Clear Pix Engine Plus ensures a great picture for your movies and television programs.
RESPONSE SPEED 8 [ms]:
Impressive pixel response speed that ensures excellent detail and smooth motion during rapid image transitions.
SOUND CONTROL (TREBLE, BASS, SURROUND, RESET SETTING):
Sound Control can be adjusted to suit your personal preference.
2 HDMI INPUTS:
A single thin cable carries both high-quality digital audio and video. HDMI is the only interface that can deliver uncompressed high-definition video plus multi-channel audio in all formats.
PC CONNECTION:
Using the D-sub 15 pin RGB connector this TV can be connected to your personal computer and run at VESA compatible resolutions up to WXGA.
QUALITY AUDIO:
Stereo and surround sound provide quality audio, while two 10-watt speakers give you the power to fill your room with sound.

http://www.sylvaniaconsumerelectroni...d/LC420SS8.php

Copyright 2007, Funai Corporation.
SYLVANIA is a registered trademark of OSRAM SYLVANIA Inc., licensed for use by Funai Corporation.

[blublublu]

Originally Posted by bmr76

do you think this player will affect the funais prices? lets say this player is 199.99 and funais were supposed to retail for 299.99- does sony eat the hundred dollars, or do they not play the price war- being that the funai will be 1080p and venturer is 1080i. Does the venturer even have component video out?

If you look at their site they have a DVD player with component out.

This will surely retail for less than $199... I would imagine $150 to start or lower.

Hopefully Blu Ray is prepared for this and there is something waiting in the wings. Things are only going to get more competitive price wise.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by joeorc

Funai is also going to ship before the end of the year OF 2007:

FROM aug 7th 2007

http://www.funaiworld.com/investors/...df/ks_e561.pdf

I stand corrected. That's the first really public mention I've seen. Excellent.