Orson Welles's "The Other Side of The Wind" (IndieGoGo campaign)

[noirjunkie]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

I hope this film ends up being more than just a curiosity.

The early chatter has been overwhelmingly positive.

[GeoffOliver]

Hopefully this will get a Blu-ray release down the line.

EDIT: I should've read the post in full. Still, hopefully it will get a BD release outside this campaign.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

The early chatter has been overwhelmingly positive.

That's good, I don't think there's an Orson Welles directed film I don't like.

[neo_reloaded]

I hate these limited crowdfunding things because they're so easy to miss and then you're screwed. I would have backed this in a heartbeat, and now presumably I'll have to pay some crazy price to someone on ebay. I wish this forum had a "Crowdfunding" subforum so it'd be easy to check in once in awhile and make sure you hadn't missed anything. "Blu-ray Movies - North America" moves too fast to "keep up with" unless you're checking constantly or reading back multiple pages when you do check.

Glad this will have a disc period though, even if I have to get ripped off for it. This Netflix streaming-only stuff grinds my gears in general and seems absurd for a situation like this. I can't believe no one with a real interest in film-preservation didn't step in first (Scorsese? BFI? The archival group at Sony? A team-up between Criterion and Eureka? Etc.) and they were left to turn to Netflix, who will sort this next to "The Break with Michelle Wolfe" and "Insatiable season 1" (or whatever comparable-quality nonsense is released in November) in the "Trending" category for 2 weeks and then never promote it ever again.

[noirjunkie]

Originally Posted by neo_reloaded

I hate these limited crowdfunding things because they're so easy to miss and then you're screwed. I would have backed this in a heartbeat, and now presumably I'll have to pay some crazy price to someone on ebay.

I've thought about how much someone would easily pay for the copy I'll eventually get. But I know my desire to keep it will always outweigh the monetary gain.

Also, since people are keeping this on the front page, I'll take this opportunity for the following PSA: Josh Karp wrote a book chronicling the behind-the-scenes insanity that led to this film being shelved for over forty years. It's titled Orson Welles's Last Movie: The Making of The Other Side of the Wind.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

I've thought about how much someone would easily pay for the copy I'll eventually get. But I know my desire to keep it will always outweigh the monetary gain.

Also, since people are keeping this on the front page, I'll take this opportunity for the following PSA: Josh Karp wrote a book chronicling the behind-the-scenes insanity that led to this film being shelved for over forty years. It's titled Orson Welles's Last Movie: The Making of The Other Side of the Wind.

I was wanting to pick up that book! Is it good? I wasn’t sure how factual it would be.

[spanky87]

The Other Side of the Wind | Official Trailer [HD] | Netflix - YouTube

[noirjunkie]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I was wanting to pick up that book! Is it good? I wasn’t sure how factual it would be.

You should definitely pick it up. It's heavily researched, including from direct interviews with many of the surviving participants.

[Darkstream]

This looks interesting. Definitely have to check it out.

I'm also curious about the porn films that Orson Welles supposedly ghost directed.

[trevanian]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

You should definitely pick it up. It's heavily researched, including from direct interviews with many of the surviving participants.

Hamiltonbooks has got it for an absurdly good price, too. I've been reading about WIND since the mid 70s (there is an AFI book from that era with a Polly Platt interview about how Welles taught her to use foreground miniatures) and watched those clips of WIND that were shown at Welles' AFI dinner over and over ... am so jazzed about this!

[ElectricPeterTork]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

This looks interesting. Definitely have to check it out.

I'm also curious about the porn films that Orson Welles supposedly ghost directed.

Rosebud wasnt a sled.

[tallrichard]

Originally Posted by ElectricPeterTork

Rosebud wasnt a sled.

What was it then? Since the burning sled has a rosebud painted on it....

Citizen Kane "RoseBud" Scene - YouTube

[yellowcakeuf6]

Originally Posted by ElectricPeterTork

Rosebud wasnt a sled.

Yeah, not in the real life story, it sure wasn't.

[Egbert Souse]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

I'm also curious about the porn films that Orson Welles supposedly ghost directed.

Looks like a job for Vinegar Syndrome

[78deluxe]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

It might get a wider release eventually.

Also, I know I'm being pedantic, but

[Show spoiler]Netflix has piqued your interest.

Actually I used the word as intended. This is the highest level of interest I've ever had.

Piqued is merely represents an increase in interest.

[captainsolo]

We’re getting closer to the release date and it’s being shown at the American cinematheque. Is this actually going to get a physical disk release? That’s my main hope and I can’t help but feel that something bad might happen between now and the release day seeing as this film always gets messed with somehow. If this is indeed finally the way its getting released it’s a landmark in and of itself regardless of whether the reconstruction works or not

[Deadguy2322]

Originally Posted by Egbert Souse

Looks like a job for Vinegar Syndrome

At least we know Netflix won’t screw the world out of a physical release of THOSE!

[trevanian]

Got a low-rez screener link and have since seen it twice, along with the doc THEY'LL LOVE ME WHEN I'M DEAD.

The movie is very close to what I hoped for and expected -- they did a very good job of hewing closely to the parts that Welles had fine-cut back in the 70s in style, to the point that it was over an hour in before I remembered this was mostly put together by not-Welles (Sam Raimi's editor did an amazing job IMO.)

It's not going to be accessible to general audiences, but that isn't a surprise. It is very found-footage in approach, so typically Welles in terms of ahead-of-its-time.

There is a very lengthy sequence in mid-movie that is just an unbroken stretch of Hannaford's film-within-a-film (that's all really nice color in 1.85, opposed to the rest in 4:3 in a mix of formats) that may prove divisive for some (a sexual equivalent to the long 'stare out the viewscreen' part of the first TREK movie to some, I'm thinking), but most of the folks who aren't getting it will probably have checked out long before that point, and the rest of us will probably be there to rewatch and debate the thing.

The doc is good too, though I think it really delivers most effectively in the last reel or so, when it seems increasingly personal in its focus (WIND is that way too, come to think of it.)

Nice to finally see the foreground miniature shots (in the film-within-the-film, mostly near the end) that Polly Platt talked about back in the 70s ... they're very cool.

[Rui]

I finally watched this on Netflix and was very happy with the final film.

IMO the best parts are in the "film within the film". The editing in some of those scenes is amazing.

What i did notice was how similar the concept was to Fellini's '8½'. Both films about a director struggling to make a film, and Welles also incorporates many of his real life relationship dynamics into the story. I'm not saying it's a rip off or anything, but it certainly has a lot in common with it.

I'd certainly like to pick up a special edition on BR if one ever gets a wide release.

[rotatingfish]

This is a stab in the dark, but Arrested Development Season 4 came out on DVD a year after it launched on Netflix (in the UK, the US release took another 6 months). So maybe Netflix will see fit to allow the crowdfunders to get their discs around Halloween, on the one year anniversary of the launch?