I must be the only one that doesn't care...

[MacDaddyOJack]

Originally Posted by mgonzo2u

Add me to the TOTALLY UNINTERESTED IN PIP FUNCTION tally

Give me fast loading, nicely transferred movies and then STFU and sit down and pass the bon#, um, er, popcorn.

Me too!!! I dont care if there will be another PiP movie EVER! Give me stellar PQ & AQ, thats all I care about.

[jason_grumpy]

Originally Posted by 181

...about bonus content, PiP, chat, internet interactivity in my blu-ray player?

I seriously don't care about any of these features and I just want to watch the movie. I would even prefer not to have a menu and have it go straight to the film.

What's the big deal about this stuff? Is it really going to effect the outcome of this war? Seems like everywhere I look, people are talking about bonus content this and that and how it will matter.

I could care less about PiP. I've had a PiP capable TV and HDTV now for the past decade and I've used it once. As a previous poster said, PQ/AQ trumps all. I want the best possible quality for my movies, and the rest is just talking point fodder.

As far as PiP on discs? I'll never watch it, and it is really only a talking point. Even though the PS3 is Internet capable, I only use it for downloading firmware or the PS store for demos.

Really it's just the final talking point that microsof... er HD-DVD has in this war, which all changed last night as miraculously 75% of Blu-Ray capable players out there just became PiP enabled.

[glenn22]

I usually only check out bonus content the first time I watch a movie... even then not on EVERY movie, and not all the bonus content either. After that, I never return to it. I am pretty sure that when the PiP thing becomes common, I will probably try it once and never use it again.

[johnnymech]

I care about commentary tracks because directors should talk about their work while they're still alive.

[ahaxton]

The only bonus content I've ever been interesting in watching are "Deleted Scenes" "Bloopers" and "Alternate Endings"

Count me in on don't care.

[mrtaber]

Well, this thread is a relief. I honestly thought I was the only one with a sizable DVD collection that could count on one hand the number of "extras" I've bothered to watch. That may change for certain movies (Blade Runner perhaps, one of my faves).

I'm even less likely to watch extras now, since they're usually in 480p. Bleh.

Mark

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Of course PQ & AQ first. BD just has to do all this 1.1 & 2.0 stuff so there is nothing that Blu-ray cant do that HDDVD can , and now were here. PiP is crap online stuff is crap but if these features get us a win then there worth it in my book & I dont care about any extras. So what does HDDVD have that Blu-ray does not??? Anything??? At all??? LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

So Screw M$ & PiP!!! What do you DUDers have on us now.................

[turboLAZER]

i'm not a fan of bonus features at all. the only bonus feature i ever enjoyed was the audience reaction track on the Planet Terror SD DVD. but unfortunately, the north american consumer loves bells and whistles, and will usually buy a treadmill with a lot of custom programs and could care less about motor horsepower and torque and overall construction(i used to sell treadmills)

[mykevermin]

I only care because it's something else that helps make HD DVD irrelevant.

What bullet points do they have left? Cell-phone based chat in Harry Potter? Paramount and the $150 million exclusivity of really just one film that's worthwhile? Attach rate?

I don't look at it as something I'd use, but I do believe that, with its release on the PS3, there are only a few more nails to put in HD DVD's coffin.

[J6P]

Originally Posted by dmwiley

Yeah, and those who think these features and disc capacities will mean automatic victory over HD-DVD are sadly mistaken. If you want to assure victory-one format or the other-better make the hardware affordable and offer deals on the software. There is no clearly discernible picture superiority either way.

What in the world are you talking about? If the last year has taught us anything, it's that "affordable hardware" means absolutely zilch. Stellar picture and sound quality and studio support speaks louder by a significant margin in the war I've been watching.

[SpikesBluBlooded]

Originally Posted by dmwiley

Yeah, and those who think these features and disc capacities will mean automatic victory over HD-DVD are sadly mistaken. If you want to assure victory-one format or the other-better make the hardware affordable and offer deals on the software. There is no clearly discernible picture superiority either way.

Prices of both hardware and software are coming down in due time, and has already begun with the hardware. Much faster than it did with DVD, by the way, and it didn't have any problems being adopted. What does make a difference is having two competing formats, plain and simple. And as far as your BS statement that there's no discernible difference in PQ, that has been discussed ad-nauseum, but if you insist: you cannot discern between the two because the only neutral studio is producing both formats' copies using the same codec. Duh. Of course they're going to look the same, they are! Beyond that, different movies will have different looks due to how it was filmed and the time and energy that went into the transfer. You cannot compare a Blu-ray to and HD DVD at their best because there's too many variables to consider when it's two different movies.

Now, if you'd care to argue AQ, you're more than welcome to make an attempt, but I think you're smarter than that...

Originally Posted by dmwiley

Oops, mentioned that verboten phrase again. Ban notice, come to Papa.

Pretty funny that you know just what to say to invite it...

[Spider1981]

I have hundreds of DVD's and I think the only thing I've ever watched on any of them is deleted scenes if there are any.
I don't think I've yet watched a single special feature on any Blu-Ray disc I own.
Special features just do nothing for me.

[dvcmember]

Originally Posted by ahaxton

The only bonus content I've ever been interesting in watching are "Deleted Scenes" "Bloopers" and "Alternate Endings"

Count me in on don't care.

I agree. What's important is the PQ and AQ and I suspect, as others have stated, that the vast majority of the public couldn't care less about PIP or an Internet connection to download extras.

[ckenisell]

Originally Posted by 181

...about bonus content, PiP, chat, internet interactivity in my blu-ray player?

I seriously don't care about any of these features and I just want to watch the movie. I would even prefer not to have a menu and have it go straight to the film.

What's the big deal about this stuff? Is it really going to effect the outcome of this war? Seems like everywhere I look, people are talking about bonus content this and that and how it will matter.

I haven't read everybody else's reply to your post, but I'm just going to say it. We don't care that you don't care. Why ruin it for those of us that do care. Why do you have such a big problem with those of us that like a bigger "experience" than just the movie? Maybe we're interested in how certain things were made or why the director chose to do something a certain way. If you want to be entertained and don't care to appreciate the process that people went through to entertain you, fine. But don't rain on our parade just because we do.

I never really understood comments from people who want less?!

[SpikesBluBlooded]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

I haven't read everybody else's reply to your post, but I'm just going to say it. We don't care that you don't care. Why ruin it for those of us that do care. Why do you have such a big problem with those of us that like a bigger "experience" than just the movie? Maybe we're interested in how certain things were made or why the director chose to do something a certain way. If you want to be entertained and don't care to appreciate the process that people went through to entertain you, fine. But don't rain on our parade just because we do.

I never really understood comments from people who want less?!

While I understand your frustration, I think that the OP's anger, and yours for that matter, is misdirected. If you look at the bigger picture of his statement, it's that this is all HD DVD fanboys talk about, as if that's a deciding factor in the war. And as several other posters have pointed out, they're making a big deal out of it because it's all they have left. Unfortunately for them, as another poster pointed out, as of last night, 75% of Blu-ray owners just got the ability to access all the features that HD DVD has had exclusive since inception, as we all knew we eventually would. This argument will dry up, and they will jump onto the only remaining line they have left: digital downloads are the future. Total BS IMHO, as I prefer to own hard copies of my belongings (viruses, crashes, etc., make it too risky to me to put all my eggs in a virtual basket).

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by bootman

I would rather have that then 10 mins of madatory previews like some Disney disks.

The ability to skip them is nice, but I like having them there as it helps recreate the theater experience.

I did forget one thing though, I do like the idea behind the PiP on "300" on HD DVD, and I hope that Disney does something similar with "Sin City" when it's released.

That being said, I would be more interested in the interviews being full screen, and the movie playing in the PiP.

Other than the occassional interview, and documentary, the only extras I ever watch are the "trailers".

~Alan

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by ckenisell

I haven't read everybody else's reply to your post, but I'm just going to say it. We don't care that you don't care. Why ruin it for those of us that do care. Why do you have such a big problem with those of us that like a bigger "experience" than just the movie? Maybe we're interested in how certain things were made or why the director chose to do something a certain way. If you want to be entertained and don't care to appreciate the process that people went through to entertain you, fine. But don't rain on our parade just because we do.

I never really understood comments from people who want less?!

Because happens that all those extras advertised as essential necessities are used as a selling point of a format that hass less capacity and less bitrate to deliver high definition picture and sound. So what's the one that is less?

[sj001]

I could care less about PIP, just a gimmick in my opinion, so add another to the list. Just give me the best video and audio quality, and I am happy.

[Luis_A51]

Now that the PS3 is 1.1 capable, lets do a poll

1) people who are happy its there and will actually use pip
2) people who are happy its there just to shut HDDVD supporters up
3) people who dont care at all either way

I guarantee 2 and 3 will get far more votes than 1.

[ikbradley]

I really like the idea of PiP and having useful internet resources available. However, the cash grab online shopping is just appalling.

This being said, I would rather have a higher bit-rate, PCM, and the most understated advantage, increased durability with the scratch protection.

Some people treat discs like the holy grail, but most have kids and replacing a scratched DVD is a pain.