PS3 Image Quality

[tru2blu707]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

here are my settings:

contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 75
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone Normal

i'm watching Dead Man's Chest and i'm still seeing some grain. maybe KingofGrills is right. maybe it's just the movie?

dead mans chest and at worlds end are probably THE best examples on blu ray...it literally has no grains the eye can see.... hmm...

[crackinhedz]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

here are my settings:

contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 75
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone Normal

i'm watching Dead Man's Chest and i'm still seeing some grain. maybe KingofGrills is right. maybe it's just the movie?

you should consider calibrating your tv...

at the very least turning down the contrast and sharpness and color temp to 'warm'.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

here are my settings:

contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 75
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone Normal

Sweet Jesus . . . first thing's first, crank that sharpness down to 0. Turn your contrast down to about 70 . . . let your eyes adjust and see what you think. This isn't going to be perfect, but it should be in the same ballpark as what it SHOULD look like.

If you have any Sony Blu's, there's a calibration easter egg on every one of them that has test patterns to make adjustments. If you're on the main menu screen of a Sony disc, press 7669 on the remote and it should take you to the patterns.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ight=calibrate

Read through that thread and it will tell you how to make your adjustments. The WAY too high sharpness is going to be the key reason you're seeing a lot of "grain." It's not grain, it's actually noise. Again, make sure any Digital Noise Reduction (DNR) on your set is turned to OFF!!!

[crackinhedz]

bstecke...we were both thinking the same exact thing at the same time, too funny

[Luis_A51]

yeah crank your sharpness waaaayyyy down
And contrast down by a good 20-30 points

Also from the Samsung website, it does not mention 24hz support. Its definitely a feature Id expect they'd want to advertise. Try disabling 24hz playback on your PS3

[joshfuld]

it seems any scene with fog or smog you see the grains. it happens in very dark scenes as well. i guess the resolution is so high that the shortcomings of the film show through.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

it seems any scene with fog or smog you see the grains. it happens in very dark scenes as well. i guess the resolution is so high that the shortcomings of the film show through.

Did you change your settings??

[joshfuld]

no, not yet. i don't know what to change them to.

[emacs]

Originally Posted by wem003

A bad HDMI cable will make the image appear to sparkle as well. You might want to check that.

with a bad HDMI cable the image degradation will be absolutely severe.

[emacs]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

here are my settings:

contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 75
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone Normal

if those values are in the range of 0 - 100 you have to decrease those values quite a bit. set contrast down to 80 and reduce sharpness below 50. you will have to properly calibrate your display for optimal results. regardless, grain is an inherent quality of photographic film ever since it was invented over a century ago.

[hitechiowa]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

for instance, in spidey 3 when they cut to the arial shot of harry's apt., it looks terrible.

thats just a shitty shot, i have a 1080p tv and have it callibrated and that shot still looks like garbage, its just film grain and its something you'll have to get used to unfortunately, i feel your pain dude i thought somethin was wrong with my first blu-ray too

[joshfuld]

i guess i'll have to get used to it. it's just such a stark contrast of other scenes. most scenes look really, really awesome. then there's a cut scene that's all grainy and it totally pulls me out of the film!

[owa]

As others have mentioned, try lowering your sharpess also (if you haven't already). You have it way too high.

[JasonR]

Please, PLEASE, turn your sharpness down!!!!!!!

Calibration is a must!!!!

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

no, not yet. i don't know what to change them to.

Did you not read the two posts regarding set calibration . . . ? And all the other suggestions regarding your settings?

Originally Posted by BStecke

Sweet Jesus . . . first thing's first, crank that sharpness down to 0. Turn your contrast down to about 70 . . . let your eyes adjust and see what you think. This isn't going to be perfect, but it should be in the same ballpark as what it SHOULD look like.

If you have any Sony Blu's, there's a calibration easter egg on every one of them that has test patterns to make adjustments. If you're on the main menu screen of a Sony disc, press 7669 on the remote and it should take you to the patterns.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ight=calibrate

Read through that thread and it will tell you how to make your adjustments. The WAY too high sharpness is going to be the key reason you're seeing a lot of "grain." It's not grain, it's actually noise. Again, make sure any Digital Noise Reduction (DNR) on your set is turned to OFF!!!

Originally Posted by crackinhedz

you should consider calibrating your tv...

at the very least turning down the contrast and sharpness and color temp to 'warm'.

Originally Posted by Luis_A51

yeah crank your sharpness waaaayyyy down
And contrast down by a good 20-30 points

Also from the Samsung website, it does not mention 24hz support. Its definitely a feature Id expect they'd want to advertise. Try disabling 24hz playback on your PS3

Originally Posted by emacs

if those values are in the range of 0 - 100 you have to decrease those values quite a bit. set contrast down to 80 and reduce sharpness below 50. you will have to properly calibrate your display for optimal results. regardless, grain is an inherent quality of photographic film ever since it was invented over a century ago.

Originally Posted by owa

As others have mentioned, try lowering your sharpess also (if you haven't already). You have it way too high.

Originally Posted by JasonR

Please, PLEASE, turn your sharpness down!!!!!!!

Calibration is a must!!!!

[bkbluray]

Originally Posted by joshfuld

here are my settings:

contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 75
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone Normal

i'm watching Dead Man's Chest and i'm still seeing some grain. maybe KingofGrills is right. maybe it's just the movie?

Sounds like my Samsung. Switch these settings to the following:

contrast: 80
Brightness: 44
Sharpness: 10
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone Normal

This has helped improve PQ on my set quite a bit. Also, on Casino Royale, there is an automatic picture calibrator easter egg that I have found quite handy.

[Blu-Beard]

Originally Posted by bkbluray

Sounds like my Samsung. Switch these settings to the following:

contrast: 80
Brightness: 44
Sharpness: 10
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone Normal

This has helped improve PQ on my set quite a bit. Also, on Casino Royale, there is an automatic picture calibrator easter egg that I have found quite handy.

What do you have your backlight set to?

[blindcat87]

Your contrast is definitely too high, but what level for it and the other settings except ffor sharpness will require using test patterns like those on Sony titles to get the best settings.

Sharpness on the other hand...

Don't turn the sharpness down to below 50. Turn it to 0. Beginners to TV settings do not realize what sharpness does. Sharpness settings make the picture APPEAR sharper, but get that result by adding false detail that covers up actual detail. I really don't understand why HDTVs have not dropped this so-called feature. In the day of analog video, it could help make a soft picture on rabbit ears or cable look better. With HDTV, all it is going to do is slowly degrade the detail in your picture a little more with every click up of the setting. Seriously, since getting my first LD player, the first thing I do whenever getting a new TV is set the sharpness setting to zero.

In addition to covering up detail with artificial crud, sharpness settings can enhance grain and lead to side effects like shimmers and sparkles.

You should do some search on grain. You are not going to get rid of grain, and if you know anything about the nature of film, you wouldn't want to. The methods of getting rid of film grain that is supposed to be there destroy detail. If you can see the grain, you are seeing all of the detail that 1080p has to offer. But with sharpness setting on, you are enhancing the grain and causing problems for yourself.

So, turn the sharpness down, then pick a Sony Blu-Ray, access the test patterns and calibrate. It can take a bit to get used to a properly calibrated image, at first you may think it isn't bright enough and that it is a little soft, but if you watch movies on it like that for a week or so, you will slowly adjust and realize that you have brought out all of the detail and that the colors are much more correct and that you are really seeing a lot more of the picture than you ever have before.

Chris

[joshfuld]

thanks. i will try it out when i get home from work.

[Go Blue]

I have a HLT5089S and have tried quite a few different settings. I used my own eye/preferences and the easter eggs on Sony BD's to come up with these.

Picture menu: Standard
Contrast: 70
Brightness: 52
Sharpness: 0
Color: 55
Tint: G50/R50
Color Tone: Normal
Size: Just Scan
Digital NR: Off
DNIe: On
Color Gamut: Wide

--Detailed Settings menu
Black adjust: Medium
Dynamic contrast: High
Gamma: 0
White Balance: 0