Samsung lawsuit over insufficient firmware support - Page 2 - Blu-ray Forum

Banjo · 02-09-2008, 02:01 AM

A Blu-ray Disc player is supposed to play ALL discs even if they are Profile 1.1 and 2.0. They just won't be able to play the special features that are enabled for Profile 1.1 and 2.0 players, just the main feature which is the movie.

Marcusarilius · 02-09-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PeechCobblerPie

well, I dont know about standalones. but most of my BD movies came with a piece of paper that tell me this.

+1

JasonR · 02-09-2008, 02:04 AM

I get a piece of paper that says a firmware update might be in order?

Blu Titan · 02-09-2008, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

+1

You are doing this on purpose...aren't you?

Marcusarilius · 02-09-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Again all hails to Mystik. I been saying for months that Samsung was an embarrassment to the BDA and that all of you should avoid buying them.

I guess I was on the spot again!

Mystik

What are we going to do with you? I can envision a Blu-ray Oracle....
But without the grain.

PeechCobblerPie · 02-09-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonR

I get a piece of paper that says a firmware update might be in order?

exactly. leaving it up to the consumer. Now, I understand that if FW updates are available and will play the new BD's and samsung simply wont supply them that there is a lawsuit. But if their older machines simply cant play them due to their hardware, it is no fault of samsungs at all but solely the fault of the consumer for not doing research or being AN EARLY ADOPTER OF NEW TECHNOLOGY.

Marcusarilius · 02-09-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueNeon

You are doing this on purpose...aren't you?

+1

Blu Titan · 02-09-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Beard

+1

I see that Blu-Beard is jumping on the Bandwagon too. Be carefull this could turn into a

turboedguy · 02-09-2008, 02:09 AM

I would still rather have a Samsung player than a Toshiba.

PeechCobblerPie · 02-09-2008, 02:11 AM

Samsungs players might be crap, but my TV has turned out to be quite nice from them.

turboedguy · 02-09-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PeechCobblerPie

Samsungs players might be crap, but my TV has turned out to be quite nice from them.

+1000

I love mine!

Marcusarilius · 02-09-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by turboedguy

+1000

I love mine!

+1. What time did you say you were heading out tonight.

PeechCobblerPie · 02-09-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by turboedguy

+1000

I love mine!

tis only 720p, but I love it and theres been no problems whatsoever.

But I will be buying a Sony soon with a nice big XBR4. Just can't beat that quality. I'll keep the sammy in the bedroom though for sho

JasonR · 02-09-2008, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PeechCobblerPie

exactly. leaving it up to the consumer. Now, I understand that if FW updates are available and will play the new BD's and samsung simply wont supply them that there is a lawsuit. But if their older machines simply cant play them due to their hardware, it is no fault of samsungs at all but solely the fault of the consumer for not doing research or being AN EARLY ADOPTER OF NEW TECHNOLOGY.

Are you serious? If I bought a HDTV and it didn't play some HD content, I would be mad. Is that the price you pay? If that is the philosophy, then most consumers won't buy in.

PeechCobblerPie · 02-09-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonR

Are you serious? If I bought a HDTV and it didn't play some HD content, I would be mad. Is that the price you pay? If that is the philosophy, then most consumers won't buy in.

but a TV simply plays a received signal. players have to read and decode things that are constantly changing. Some HDTV's dont have built in HD. Should people now sue for this? or go get a freaking $10 HD antenna?

mdabb · 02-09-2008, 02:28 AM

As I own a 1200. I did look in to other players @ the Time and This one with HQV and @ $6-$800 dollars. I was under the impression even though 1.0 it would still play all discs, just not future features that 1.1,2.0 could.

Hell this would be a sweeeet player if Samsung didn't make it.

It's the lack of support that I don't get from Samsung and if you own one then you know what I'm talking about. It's absolutely frustrating.

There was a lot of superior reviews of this player at the time.

turboedguy · 02-09-2008, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

+1. What time did you say you were heading out tonight.

just wipe it off, it wont stain.

clyon · 02-09-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PeechCobblerPie

but a TV simply plays a received signal. players have to read and decode things that are constantly changing. Some HDTV's dont have built in HD. Should people now sue for this? or go get a freaking $10 HD antenna?

Not all hdtv have a built in tuner so that antenna is still useless.

& I did do my research when I got my player months before the problems come about, but most of us Don't have a crystal ball.

mdabb · 02-09-2008, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PeechCobblerPie

Samsungs players might be crap, but my TV has turned out to be quite nice from them.

Yeah my SS DLP has what I think excellent PQ.

BUTTTT it has been serviced 4 times and going on the 5th time as soon as service center calls me back.(parts on backorder) It's not me 3 different service centers straight out told me SS has put their grandchildren through college.

All three basically said they are getting tired of SS. So?????? I give up.

(that's excluding lamp replacement)

PeechCobblerPie · 02-09-2008, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by clyon

Not all hdtv have a built in tuner so that antenna is still useless.

& I did do my research when I got my player months before the problems come about, but most of us Don't have a crystal ball.

Well, if this is your first time. Welcome to early adoption I suppose. Life isn't fair.

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02-09-2008, 02:01 AM	#21
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	A Blu-ray Disc player is supposed to play ALL discs even if they are Profile 1.1 and 2.0. They just won't be able to play the special features that are enabled for Profile 1.1 and 2.0 players, just the main feature which is the movie.

02-09-2008, 02:04 AM	#23
JasonR Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:12	I get a piece of paper that says a firmware update might be in order?

02-09-2008, 02:09 AM	#29
turboedguy Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Santa Clarita Ca.	I would still rather have a Samsung player than a Toshiba.

02-09-2008, 02:11 AM	#30
PeechCobblerPie Banned Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray reviews:2	Samsungs players might be crap, but my TV has turned out to be quite nice from them.

02-09-2008, 02:28 AM	#36
mdabb Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Trading Score:1	As I own a 1200. I did look in to other players @ the Time and This one with HQV and @ $6-$800 dollars. I was under the impression even though 1.0 it would still play all discs, just not future features that 1.1,2.0 could. Hell this would be a sweeeet player if Samsung didn't make it. It's the lack of support that I don't get from Samsung and if you own one then you know what I'm talking about. It's absolutely frustrating. There was a lot of superior reviews of this player at the time.

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