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Old 02-14-2008, 11:11 PM   #1
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That's the first smart thing they would do in a long time.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:24 PM   #2
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Whether true or not, I believe that is exactly the senario as it will play out and it won't be very long either.

My guess is that Paramount and Universal are in agreement to stay quite until Toshiba has dumped all of their DVD upconverters on the market / public. Or until DUD player sales have diminished to a trickle.

Toshiba will then make the inevitable announcment of resigning the HD DVD format. Paramount and Universal will then both go Blu exclusive. Toshiba has R & D BD player under development currently and secretly. After the Toshiba announcment and a very few months later, they will announce their first BD player for release.

Something of this nature has to have been given to the board of directors to keep financial backing in place. No board on earth would be playing along for this amount of time and put up with all of the finacial losses without a plan in place to move twards a prosperous future once again.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:26 PM   #3
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Whether true or not, I believe that is exactly the senario as it will play out and it won't be very long either.

My guess is that Paramount and Universal are in agreement to stay quite until Toshiba has dumped all of their DVD upconverters on the market / public. Or until DUD player sales have diminished to a trickle.

Toshiba will then make the inevitable announcment of resigning the HD DVD format. Paramount and Universal will then both go Blu exclusive. Toshiba has R & D BD player under development currently and secretly. After the Toshiba announcment and a very few months later, they will announce their first BD player for release.

Something of this nature has to have been given to the board of directors to keep financial backing in place. No board on earth would be playing along for this amount of time and put up with all of the finacial losses without a plan in place to move twards a prosperous future once again.
right.... just wondering what happened when sony dropped betamax? I wasn't there that time. do they go with the remaining studios, etc?
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:33 PM   #4
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right.... just wondering what happened when sony dropped betamax? I wasn't there that time. do they go with the remaining studios, etc?
1975 - format war began.
1988 - Sony offcially admin defeated by releasing VHS players.
more than ten years.

It is good that HDDVD vs Blu-ray didn't last that long.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:35 PM   #5
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More good news...

Well, folks, as they say out here in SoCal....

"That's A Wrap"

Oh yeah, what are the chances that a thread is already locked over at the cesspool?
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:33 AM   #6
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I think this makes the most sense. Toshiba gets to save "some" face by pulling the plug themselves, instead of waiting for Paramount and Uni to go Blu.

It won't be long now, I am sure.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:47 AM   #7
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81:19? I guessed 80:20, but in this case I don't mind beeing wrong!
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:08 AM   #8
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:40 AM   #9
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Well as much as I don't like to admit it I was around for the Betamax death. A few studios stuck with them but within a week of Sony pulling the plug everyone went VHS. At least this time the better format wins
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:49 PM   #10
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even if this is true dont expect the Paramount or Universal to drop until the end of Q3 early Q4 because they want to start off with the Christmas buyers
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:34 PM   #11
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whne this happens...can we all who suported BD from day one,...go out and eat a big steak,,and,drink expensive wine...

PS----i get the nerve to call Warner Bros and ask them a favor...in their "I am Legend" DVD/HD/bd release but only on the HD DVD version a deleted scene where will smith was in the video store and there is a big BD logo behind him and he both BD dics...and on the tV were he watch all the reruns,,,we see wal mart stokin BD dics...and the kid that show up..playin MSGS 7 on a transparent PS4 instead of watchin shrek .....

just thro it in HD face

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Old 02-17-2008, 10:53 PM   #12
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right.... just wondering what happened when sony dropped betamax? I wasn't there that time. do they go with the remaining studios, etc?
They kind of have no choice seeing as how Blu-ray is the only one left standing.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:28 PM   #13
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:41 PM   #14
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Whether true or not, I believe that is exactly the senario as it will play out and it won't be very long either.

My guess is that Paramount and Universal are in agreement to stay quite until Toshiba has dumped all of their DVD upconverters on the market / public. Or until DUD player sales have diminished to a trickle.

Toshiba will then make the inevitable announcment of resigning the HD DVD format. Paramount and Universal will then both go Blu exclusive. Toshiba has R & D BD player under development currently and secretly. After the Toshiba announcment and a very few months later, they will announce their first BD player for release.

Something of this nature has to have been given to the board of directors to keep financial backing in place. No board on earth would be playing along for this amount of time and put up with all of the finacial losses without a plan in place to move twards a prosperous future once again.
For the first time EVER, I agree with this Marcus character.

I also believe the situation will play out very similar to this, if not exactly. Everyone usually calls Toshiba stupid and retarded or whatever for backing dud. But the reality is they had their hand, and played it as best they could. Now from a clearly unbiased view, DUD is on it's way out and Toshiba knows this as well. No matter how much they loved their baby (HD-DVD) they know it's got no hope, and they need or want to remain players in the home video game. Realistically they are going to have to go blu or just support SD-DVD. So it's inevitable that they end up blu, but for now they need to try to get rid of their HD-DVD disc's and players. And prepare themseves for the transition.
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Old 02-15-2008, 02:55 AM   #15
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...and Toshiba knows this as well. No matter how much they loved their baby (HD-DVD) they know it's got no hope...
Yes. Keep in mind they bundled 300 for a long time, so they know when a baby has no hope it should be tossed over a cliff.

By the way, anybody see any new HD DVD players with a different bundle? Remember how they supposed were only allowing their players to be put on clearance pricing so they could switch to a Bourne bundle? Did anything every happen with that?
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:53 PM   #16
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a rare victory for common sense.

if true...

Yes, yes!! (if true?) It's only a matter of time. Yaaaahhh!!! On to the next town!!!
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Great to see this post in the General Discussion area. Thanks to the Mod that made the change
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:27 PM   #18
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Several phone calls to Kevin Collins, Microsoft's normally accessible "HD DVD evangelist," were not returned. Nor were calls to Ken Graffeo, the Universal Studios Home Entertainment executive who doubles as co-president of the HD DVD North American Promotional Group.
Interesting.
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Interesting.

Graffeo is to busy making hand puppets on the wall.
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Old 02-14-2008, 11:28 PM   #20
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From Hollywood Reporter: Toshiba to drop HD DVD, sources say

The complete end to the war looks like it's coming soon.
These rumors are all over the web, especially with all the recent announcements
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