HDDVD Fanboys pulling their hair out!!!

[dialog_gvf]

In the end they are enthusiasts. Such people are the lifeblood of many "luxury" industries.

They simply are annoying to those who disagree with them. Let's face it, we don't get upset with some of the BD fanboys who occasionally go way over the top too.

The thing here is, instead of swaying opinion as they did before, now the HD DVD fanboys are looking rather pathetic.

BD supporters were saying "Wait for the PS/3, wait for the other players, wait until you see the flood of content, and wait for the 50GB discs". We were right. Now the HD DVD crowd have taken up the same cry.

Problem is, it makes them look like massive hypocrites to have slander us.

Gary

[JTK]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

In the end they are enthusiasts. Such people are the lifeblood of many "luxury" industries.

Actually, a lot of them aren't. I'm convinced a good bunch of them barely know how to plug something into a wall.

I've never seen such an influx of ignorance, stupidity, and cheapskatisms en masse until this whole "format war" started and some of these people jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon last March.

There's some of them that I'm convinced are posting on the Internet during the hour of free time you get on good behavior either out of a jail or a nuthouse.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=4058
^^
Go into that propoganda thread I made in the Off Topic area. Those guys are a random case in point of what I'm talking about.

They're not enthusiasts by a longshot.

What thread shows everyone is a snapshot of what it looks like when "Joe Six Pack" laps up the Kool Aid from these deliberate liars I'm referring to.

They simply are annoying to those who disagree with them. Let's face it, we don't get upset with some of the BD fanboys who occasionally go way over the top too.

Yes, but what's more than annoying is to see people deliberately lie and misinform others.

That's indicative of at least one, if not several, critical character flaws in a person that are downright worthy of contempt. It goes way past being "annoying."


Yes, I've seen some BD fanboys that have annoyed me, but let's face it: The facts are, and have been, on their side since day one. The only time they got tripped up was when BD fumbled out of the gate in the early goings.

I honestly haven't seen any BD fanboys outright lie or try to misinform others yet. Maybe I've missed it...

The thing here is, instead of swaying opinion as they did before, now the HD DVD fanboys are looking rather pathetic.

BD supporters were saying "Wait for the PS/3, wait for the other players, wait until you see the flood of content, and wait for the 50GB discs". We were right. Now the HD DVD crowd have taken up the same cry.

Problem is, it makes them look like massive hypocrites to have slander us.

Gary

They are hypocrites, and other things that are probably even worse, for doing more than just this, but yes, you are correct.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by JTK

Actually, a lot of them aren't. I'm convinced a good bunch of them barely know how to plug something into a wall.

I've never seen such an influx of ignorance, stupidity, and cheapskatisms en masse until this whole "format war" started and some of these people jumped on the HD-DVD bandwagon last March.

Yes, there are a bunch of people that bought in on the cheap and simply can't stand the idea that a format that will take a bit longer to drop to mass adoption prices is allowed to challenge THEIR CHOICE. Unbelievable. They spent $160!!! People owe them.

[Blue]

Originally Posted by JTK

Actually, a lot of them aren't. I'm convinced a good bunch of them barely know how to plug something into a wall.

The real worry are those that claim they are technically competent in IT that got sucked in a started fudding. Any IT person that wants 30GB instead of 50GB... I'm getting suspicious that there is an Anti Sony campaign going on. I'm anything but a Sony fanboy, but Blu ray is much bigger than Sony. HD-DVD is about keeping royalties where the DVD royalties are. Even Toshiba admitted HD-DVD was an interim step. As Microsoft are the masters of FUD what else do you suspect, but why all these foot soldiers a re mindlessly marching along is an amazement. I think many are going to be quite embarrassed in few months.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Yes, there are a bunch of people that bought in on the cheap and simply can't stand the idea that a format that will take a bit longer to drop to mass adoption prices is allowed to challenge THEIR CHOICE. Unbelievable. They spent $160!!! People owe them.

LOL!

Originally Posted by Blue

The real worry are those that claim they are technically competent in IT that got sucked in a started fudding. Any IT person that wants 30GB instead of 50GB... I'm getting suspicious that there is an Anti Sony campaign going on.

Suspicious nothing.

I think you, me, and probably most of us here KNOW there's an anti-Sony campaign going on, spearheaded by Microsoft. Going on about two years now, give or take.

I'm anything but a Sony fanboy, but Blu ray is much bigger than Sony.

Yes. In fact, one could argue it's almost more Matustisha's baby if you get back into who developed what and when.

I love what someone wrote around here a day or two ago:

Blu-Ray is very important to Sony but it's not nearly as critical as HD-DVD is to Toshiba.

Not even close.

HD-DVD is about keeping royalties where the DVD royalties are. Even Toshiba admitted HD-DVD was an interim step.

Wow. If you ever find the quote, link, and date for that, please post it and we'll get some people to spread that gem like wildfire!

As Microsoft are the masters of FUD what else do you suspect, but why all these foot soldiers a re mindlessly marching along is an amazement. I think many are going to be quite embarrassed in few months.

Exactly. What makes it worse is you can tell after a point who probably is an insider and knows better and is DELIBERATELY lying and misleading others. That's when you know someone is on the take somehow.

That's just galling.

Anyone who has even a passing knowledge of MS's history as a company for about the past 20 years knows none of this is anything new.

This just happens to be the most elaborate and grandiose version we've ever seen, though.

[Blackraven]

Special mention to "Capek" at AVS.

Damned HD-DVD fanboy :P

[shamus]

Priceless.......

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=787377

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by shamus

Priceless.......

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=787377

That's brilliant, HDog-DVD lol.

[Jeff®]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

That's brilliant, HDog-DVD lol.

ROFL

"PS: If any fourm members are in SoCal I have a Hdead-dvd or make that Hdog-dvd player for sale cheap and seven movies, you have to pick it up, PM me if you dare."

[joeorc]

I AM NEW TO THE BOARD...
but i have been a blu-ray supporter since i read about the format in 2003. an was excited when it came out in the states. an in none other than a playstation 3...suprise . but the big point is this also explains alot of what is defently going on.....notice this

IFA 2006 report

Welcome to our Blu-ray and HD-DVD coverage of Internationale Funkausstellung [COLOR="black"](IFA) 2006, the world's largest electronics and IT show, which was held from September 1-6, 2006 in Berlin, Germany. We were of course there sweeping the trade show floors for everything related to Blu-ray and HD-DVD to bring you all the latest developments.


Toshiba

While there was no HD-DVD Promotion Group booth at this years IFA, Toshiba did their best to make up for it by showing a wide range of HD-DVD related products in their own booth, including two HD-DVD players, multiple HD-DVD drives, as well as some of their Qosmio laptops featuring HD-DVD drives. The HD-E1 HD-DVD player, which corresponds to the upcoming HD-A2 but for the European market, was plentiful on display in various locations throughout the booth. The HD-XE1 HD-DVD player on the other hand, which corresponds to the upcoming HD-XA2, was nowhere to be found but we did manage to locate a prototype HD-XA2 HD-DVD player. The HD-E1 and HD-XE1 will be launched in Europe in November and will retail for €599 and €999, respectively. On display were also several HD-DVD drives (half-height, slim slot, slim tray), as well as some Toshiba Qosmio laptops with internal HD-DVD drives. We also happened to run into Toshiba's RD-A1 HD-DVD recorder (which only is released in Japan) being used by another company to demonstrate their HD products, so we took a few photos of it.

how can the people who praise HD-DVD not notice this trend.....

or better yet...DO YOU KNOW WHO IS THE CO-VICE CHAIR OF HD-DVD IS..?
http://www.nec.co.jp/press/en/0208/2901.html

Member List
Chair Company Toshiba Corporation
Vice-Chair Company Memory-Tech Corporation, NEC Corporation
Auditor SANYO Electric Co., Ltd.
Secretary Toshiba Corporation

http://www.hddvdprg.com/eng/about/member.html

look what happened in apr 2006...ever wonder where all the HD-DVD SUPPORT IS....

simple:
Sony Corporation (“Sony”) and NEC Corporation (“NEC”) announce today that they have signed a definitive agreement to establish a joint venture company, Sony NEC Optiarc Inc., in carrying out optical disc drive business. Shinichi Yamamura, currently Deputy President of Video Business Group of Sony, will serve as the president of the new company. Sony and NEC will separate their respective optical disc drive businesses on April 1, 2006 in preparation for creating this joint venture. The planned date of establishment of Sony NEC Optiarc Inc, is April 3, 2006 and it will take over the two separated businesses in creating one company.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Pr...17E/index.html

an those same people who ragged on the blu-ray picture quality when the only blu-ray player on the market was the samsung....one i wonder why..here look at this link explains alot does it not

http://sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx?Pat...00659C00000F09

[JTK]

^^ That's one hell of a first post!

[Rivera213]

There is a distinct difference between staunch fans & fan-boys.

Staunch fans/supporters can accept there are flaws in everything & recognise facts as facts.

Fan-boys don't listen whatever genuine proof you provide, they will say it's wrong.

[joeorc]

yea..see i am part of the playstation underground...anthe FUD never stops there i posted this many times for : get this all of 2006..an alot of people still doubt this was how this format war was going to end. the out come is going to be the same.

that 96% HD-MEDIA format dominance in japan is testiment to that. HD-DVD realy did not stand a chance. due to the fact is HD-DVD has been for all intents an purpose a movie only format where as blu-ray on the other hand. is not only used movies, but software also. IM in the IT industry a computer repair tech. been repairing computer's an deal with manuf. for parts on a daily basis. an i can see the writeing on the wall. HD-DVD is a good format. no doubt. but BLU-RAY is just better. but that is besides the point...

thanks to NEC the format war is now just ....a myth it was over with even before the format war even started.

[pretender2j]

Originally Posted by shamus

Priceless.......

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=787377

The thread has been removed

JB

[shamus]

Originally Posted by pretender2j

The thread has been removed

JB

Sorry. I should of at least quoted the OP.

[Banjo]

A friend of mine purchased the HD-DVD add-on for Xbox 360 a couple weeks ago... today he returned it as he said the world isn't ready for either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

Just thought I'll mention it here.

Though I'm pretty optimistic about the Blu-Ray format.

[BTBuck1]

Originally Posted by Banjo

A friend of mine purchased the HD-DVD add-on for Xbox 360 a couple weeks ago... today he returned it as he said the world isn't ready for either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

Just thought I'll mention it here.

Though I'm pretty optimistic about the Blu-Ray format.

The world is long overdue for not only HD...but more...
We have been in standard Def Way....Way...too long!

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by BTBuck1

The world is long overdue for not only HD...but more...
We have been in standard Def Way....Way...too long!

I agree, it's amazing how we are being stalled by all the "politics" of making changes to the market. The major TV stations are just barely getting the hang of broadcasting in high-definition (720p).

It's ridiculous.

[joeorc]

well one of my favorite post's on the internet about what the transition to HD-REALY is about..here is a good article...

ignoring the rants about "big brother" the article shows some very good points example:

Federal mandate
Powell has been adamant about the transition from over-the-air broadcasting to digital television, and many of the agency's actions have rippled throughout the industry, getting the ball rolling toward major changes in programming and manufacturing. Powell's reasoning is that the radio spectrum used to broadcast television programming is underutilized and would be better served through reallocation to new wireless uses and public-safety networks.

About 80 percent of consumers currently use cable or satellite services for their television needs. Over-the-air television uses lower bands of the spectrum, which are valuable, because they can travel farther than bands in the upper regions. By freeing up those bands, the FCC can auction off that spectrum, which could be used for new services, such as wireless broadband.

To encourage the transition, the FCC has adopted new rules, including deadlines for manufacturers to incorporate cable card slots into new television sets; for shutting off over-the-air programming for broadcasters; and broadcast flags for content protection.

Now the FCC must figure out a time frame to mandate that over-the-air broadcasts must be turned off, clearing the way to auction the spectrum. The latest proposal is to have 85 percent of households using digital television by Jan. 1, 2009. The previous deadline was January 2007, but that has been determined to be too early.

"2007 was unrealistic--2009 seems more realistic, given the current momentum, and (the industry is) more than on track," said Jim Sanduski, vice president of visual products at Samsung Electronics.

here is the link if anyone else wants to read the whole story...
http://news.com.com/Tuning+up+for+HD...3-5366749.html

[Blu-Light]

BD hardware forum is getting overrun again by MS suckups and HD-DVD boneheads. Just beating down the PS3 and saying that Sony is in big trouble with it...yada yada yada.