John Carpenter: Did He Fail? - Blu-ray Forum

bruce_pullen · 01-26-2009, 04:38 PM

Question: What film signaled the decline of John Carpenter? Or was their one?

When did he jump off the cliff? When did the trend start?

Blu-ray Neo · 01-26-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

Question: What film signaled the decline of John Carpenter? Or was their one?

Ghosts of Mars.

Lame, lame, lame.

obiwopkenobi62 · 01-26-2009, 04:46 PM

Definitely Ghosts of Mars.

SDon1969 · 01-26-2009, 04:47 PM

Once he stopped directing and just added his name to the title somewhere, aka "John Carpenter Presents..." - beginning of the end, I say! He did a decent episode for Masters of Horror. Not sure what his last decent film was, though.

bruce_pullen · 01-26-2009, 04:51 PM

Clarification:

What film led to a trend of failure? Some say after The Thing (1982), he was never the same.

SDon1969 · 01-26-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

Clarification:

What film led to a trend of failure? Some say after The Thing (1982), he was never the same.

That's a tough one. After The Thing he still had some success (Christine & Starman come to mind). I'd go with Memoirs of An Invisible Man (1992) for starting the suckiness trend.

(Fe)Man · 01-26-2009, 05:05 PM

I haven't liked a film from him since They Live in 88'.

atomik kinder · 01-26-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

Clarification:

What film led to a trend of failure? Some say after The Thing (1982), he was never the same.

I kind of agree with that.
Chistine wasn't so hot.
Starman bored me to tears.
Big Trouble in Little China - I know some people will disagree with this, but I thought it was really boring and just plain bad.
Prince of Darkness was another yawn fest. NOTHING HAPPENS IN IT!
They Live was another disappointment.
Memoirs of an Invisible Man, I don't think I even need to say anything about this one.
In the Mouth of Madness is another one of those movies where nothing happens.
Escape from LA? Just plain bad.
Vampires I actually thought was pretty good and that John Carpenter may be making a comeback, but then he made...
Ghost of Mars

I must say though, his Masters of Horror episodes were probably the best out of the bunch.

For me, John Carpenter has been failing for a long time.

Now, lets talk about Tobe Hooper...

thedarkangel1975 · 01-26-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

Question: What film signaled the decline of John Carpenter? Or was their one?

When did he jump off the cliff? When did the trend start?

Halloween 3.....

Blu-Ron · 02-02-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thedarkangel1975

Halloween 3.....

He didn't direct H3.

ZatoichiX1 · 02-02-2009, 12:29 AM

This is tough... I don't think he's failed per se. His style of filmmaking just isn't what Hollywood is making these days, so he's adapted some, using flashcuts and editing styles that he didn't in his past movies...

Ghosts of Mars wasn't his best, but for me, even mediocre Carpenter is better than some of the directors out there...

He just needs some money to make a movie and be left alone... no studio interference... then we'll see Carpenter back in top form...

matthieuxdetoux · 02-02-2009, 05:30 AM

I don't think he failed at anything. He's had some misses (Mainly Escape from LA) but all in all he has a solid body of work that most people would be incredibly proud of and he's one of those directors that puts his stamp on a film so everyone is familiar with what are John Carpenter films. It would be like saying "Did Francis Ford Coppola fail because he made Dracula?"

Classic:
Halloween
Big Trouble in Little China
The Thing
Escape from New York
Christine
The Fog
The Live

Worth Your Time:
Prince of Darkness
In the Mouth of Madness
Vampires
Assault on Precinct 13

Watch If On Cable:
Ghosts of Mars
Village of the Damned
Starman

Avoid:
Escape from LA
Memoirs of an Invisible Man

Wow that's alot better than most directors.... Jeeze.

bruce_pullen · 02-02-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by matthieuxdetoux

I don't think he failed at anything. He's had some misses (Mainly Escape from LA) but all in all he has a solid body of work that most people would be incredibly proud of and he's one of those directors that puts his stamp on a film so everyone is familiar with what are John Carpenter films. It would be like saying "Did Francis Ford Coppola fail because he made Dracula?"

Classic:
Halloween
Big Trouble in Little China
The Thing
Escape from New York
Christine
The Fog
The Live

Worth Your Time:
Prince of Darkness
In the Mouth of Madness
Vampires
Assault on Precinct 13

Watch If On Cable:
Ghosts of Mars
Village of the Damned
Starman

Avoid:
Escape from LA
Memoirs of an Invisible Man

Wow that's alot better than most directors.... Jeeze.

Only three or four of his films stand with other great directors though.

The rest seem subpar.

I'm sorry. After the Thing (1982), he became less than he was.

nycomet · 02-02-2009, 07:54 PM

Definitely The Happening. After that one: game over, man.

01-26-2009, 04:38 PM	#1
bruce_pullen Special Member Member since:Dec 2008	John Carpenter: Did He Fail? Question: What film signaled the decline of John Carpenter? Or was their one? When did he jump off the cliff? When did the trend start? Last edited by bruce_pullen; 01-26-2009 at 05:04 PM.

01-26-2009, 04:51 PM	#5
bruce_pullen Special Member Member since:Dec 2008	Clarification Clarification: What film led to a trend of failure? Some say after The Thing (1982), he was never the same.

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01-26-2009, 04:46 PM	#3
obiwopkenobi62 Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Deatsville, Al Home Theater Gallery:531 Blu-ray collection:1143 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:6	Definitely Ghosts of Mars.

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SDon1969 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:745 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Once he stopped directing and just added his name to the title somewhere, aka "John Carpenter Presents..." - beginning of the end, I say! He did a decent episode for Masters of Horror. Not sure what his last decent film was, though.

01-26-2009, 05:05 PM	#7
(Fe)Man Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:43 Blu-ray collection:630 DVD collection:111	I haven't liked a film from him since They Live in 88'.

02-02-2009, 12:29 AM	#11
ZatoichiX1 Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:750 Blu-ray collection:4608 DVD collection:610	This is tough... I don't think he's failed per se. His style of filmmaking just isn't what Hollywood is making these days, so he's adapted some, using flashcuts and editing styles that he didn't in his past movies... Ghosts of Mars wasn't his best, but for me, even mediocre Carpenter is better than some of the directors out there... He just needs some money to make a movie and be left alone... no studio interference... then we'll see Carpenter back in top form...

02-02-2009, 05:30 AM	#12
matthieuxdetoux Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Kent, Ohio Blu-ray collection:136	I don't think he failed at anything. He's had some misses (Mainly Escape from LA) but all in all he has a solid body of work that most people would be incredibly proud of and he's one of those directors that puts his stamp on a film so everyone is familiar with what are John Carpenter films. It would be like saying "Did Francis Ford Coppola fail because he made Dracula?" Classic: Halloween Big Trouble in Little China The Thing Escape from New York Christine The Fog The Live Worth Your Time: Prince of Darkness In the Mouth of Madness Vampires Assault on Precinct 13 Watch If On Cable: Ghosts of Mars Village of the Damned Starman Avoid: Escape from LA Memoirs of an Invisible Man Wow that's alot better than most directors.... Jeeze.

02-02-2009, 07:54 PM	#14
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