Latest FOX movies have new anti-theft feature, Has created playability issues

[Jeff Kleist]

If they are doing something outside of the norm, i.e. some proprietary non-standard security code, hell yes!

BD+ is neither proprietary nor non-standard. It's an official part of the spec that player manufacturers are required to support, and anyone can use the tech

[sunedaz68]

In an answer to the previous comment. I have updated my player to the latest firmware 2.5 last September. I even tried to reinstall it to make sure there was not a problem and it still does not work.

finally after 4 emails to Panasonic they have emailed me back. Of course it was the same day I gave up on them and went out and bought a new Pioneer BDP-51FD. Of course everything works on this machine and I haven't even completed the firmware update.

The Bond movies I was talking about were Vol 1&2 I just purchased.

I will keep updating as I get info as I probably won't even be able to sell the Panny on Ebay until this is resolved.

Stay away from Panasonic is my advice and Buy either Sony or Pioneer for the money. Especially since the Pioneer is $200 off at Best Buy right now

[Clark Kent]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

I assure you it's doing the job it's meant to do quite satisfactorally. Everyone knows a certain segment won't pay for their stuff, but the goal of copy protection is to be as big of a pain in the ass as possible, and to protect the release window where 50% of the lifetime copies are sold on your average title, not protect it forever.

That is exactly the goal of BD+. All Fox cares about is that the first few weeks of the release window does not have to compete with a freely available download. 75% of a dvd's projected lifetime sales occur within the first month of release.

[badboi]

Originally Posted by sunedaz68

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finally after 4 emails to Panasonic they have emailed me back. Of course it was the same day I gave up on them and went out and bought a new Pioneer BDP-51FD. Of course everything works on this machine and I haven't even completed the firmware update.

Hope this machine works out for you. But if you think you had problems with the Panasonic . . .

FWIW, my Panasonic BD30 has been solid as a rock. Even plays Twilight, and all the problem Fox titles. Guess I've been lucky.

[Clark Kent]

The only foolproof Blu-ray player that will play all Blu-rays is going to be the Sony PS3. As a large percentage of the installed player base, all releases will be checked out on that player first. But firmware updates usually do come out for the standalone players to catch up.

[SatinKzo]

Originally Posted by badboi

Hope this machine works out for you. But if you think you had problems with the Panasonic . . .

FWIW, my Panasonic BD30 has been solid as a rock. Even plays Twilight, and all the problem Fox titles. Guess I've been lucky.

Well, my 51fd has played everything I have ever thrown at it. Even stuff my Bd55 had issues with (audio drops mostly on panasonic) and to me the 51fd BD PQ is slightly nicer than the panny and it's a top notch upscaler.

Sundaze, if you can still return the player at bestbuy, you can get it even cheaper on 6ave.com with coupon code COUPONCABIN.

[sunedaz68]

The Pioneer BD51F I bought does not even have the firmware update and has played everthing I put in it. Shows how much of a superior machine it is to the Panasonic.

I finally got a call back from Panasonic and they say they are having some issue with the BD10a and playing the movies I listed.Tthey are to get back to me regarding what thier tech team may or may not be doing about it.

[AlaskaDon]

Originally Posted by sunedaz68

Stay away from Panasonic is my advice and Buy either Sony or Pioneer for the money. Especially since the Pioneer is $200 off at Best Buy right now

Sorry that you had a problem, but I have to disagree with this conclusion. The Panasonic BD-10A was a very early player. I have had a BD-30 for a long while now, and as others have stated in this thread, that player is rock solid. I don't even have the latest firmware installed in mine, yet I watched Twilight and a couple of the latest Bond releases this past week with absolutely no problem whatsoever. In fact, my player has never failed to play anything. It works first time, every time.

My guess is that time finally caught up to your 10A, but hey, that's the price sometimes of being an early adopter. Panasonic players have always been among the most reliable though. FWIW if I had to replace mine today, I would probably take a look at the Pioneer. I've heard it's also very good.