Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[rexcrk]

Individual cases would be cool. I have the 4K SteelBook but I’m sure there will be a third Jurassic World, so I’ll probably get rid of the Steel anyway when that comes out. While I do like sets that save shelf space, for an ongoing series like Jurassic Park, it doesn’t really make much sense to go for a box set. And for something like Jurassic Park, I’d like to have the 4K disc AND the Blu-ray anyway.

On an unrelated note, does anyone know if the old DVDs had any special features that didn’t get ported to the Blu-rays?

[jayman3]

Why Jurassic Park Looks Better Than Its Sequels - YouTube

[emgesp]

Is the standard Blu-ray same as old master from the trilogy boxset?

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by emgesp

Is the standard Blu-ray same as old master from the trilogy boxset?

Not only is the new BD the same old master, but the UHD comes from the same crap as well. And if it is indeed a new scan, then it’s from the same IP and processed in the same ugly way the old BD was. If you want a good looking modern restoration from OCN, I strongly recommend the 3D disc.

[LMFAObros]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Not only is the new BD the same old master, but the UHD comes from the same crap as well. And if it is indeed a new scan, then it’s from the same IP and processed in the same ugly way the old BD was. If you want a good looking modern restoration from OCN, I strongly recommend the 3D disc.

wow, you actually said something I agree with. That being said though, the 3d disc has too much DNR like T2 and can only really be watched on 3d players.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by LMFAObros

wow, you actually said something I agree with. That being said though, the 3d disc has too much DNR like T2 and can only really be watched on 3d players.

Correct, DNR removes grain fully in the 3D version. But just like remastered T2, JP 3D has a serious amount of detail and it’s immediately apparent that it’s sourced from OCN. JP 3D also has a very faithful color grade to original 35mm prints. It’s a much better and more faithful presentation than the UHD. Why Spielberg didn’t use this master for the UHD is a mystery.

[Bluyoda]

Is the UHD of Jurassic Park a clear upgrade from the BD, or is that debatable?
I remember seeing screenshot comparisons once, and the UHD looked very DNR'd to me. The BD of JP is definitely an older master, and has quite a bit of noise, etc., but at least it isn't DNR'd to death.
What's the verdict? Thinking of picking up the collection for TLW and JW.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Is the UHD of Jurassic Park a clear upgrade from the BD, or is that debatable?

Definitely debatable; no clear winner. I believe the UHD is quite a bit better, myself, but comes with its own problems. Here's a cut-and-paste of a post I wrote on the previous page of this thread...

Personally, I still think it's worth it. We're all in agreement that NEITHER transfer (the 1080p Blu or 4K UHD) is what it "should be".... but the UHD is indeed a significant improvement, in my opinion. The Blu was so overly bright that it didn't even look like a "scary movie" anymore; I always had to lower the Brightness setting on my projector... and even then it was still over-cooked. The UHD sits in a much more appropriate space, in terms of atmospheric darkness. And the toning down of Universal's trademark over-sharpening is a HUGE plus. That fake non-film-grain noise on the old 1080p disc is painful and shocking to see, once you've spent some time with the UHD.

As a good indicator of everything I've been saying, check out the "5th comparison" at caps-a-holic. It pretty much says it all:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...116776&i=4&l=0

Hope that helps.

[imsounoriginal]

It's definitely an upgrade, just not much of one. I've kinda resigned myself to the belief that they'll never get Jurassic Park right.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

It's definitely an upgrade, just not much of one. I've kinda resigned myself to the belief that they'll never get Jurassic Park right.

Maybe one day, later in the format when there’s a Jurassic anniversary and they want to milk it but... yeah, I lean closer to ‘this is as good as we’re going to get’ as well.

[Bluyoda]

Thanks, that does indeed help. From the screenshots, it looks like the UHD has about the same amount of detail as the BD, just sans the noise. The BD seems to have more detail, due to the added fuzziness, except for the egg, where the BD clearly appears to have more detail.
I know it's nigh impossible to depict colours accurately from a UHD, but the BD looks lusher and more vibrant, but also more overcooked.
I thought the UHD had more beautiful colours?
I guess I'll give it a shot.
At least TLW and JW will be decent upgrades, right?

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Definitely debatable; no clear winner. I believe the UHD is quite a bit better, myself, but comes with its own problems. Here's a cut-and-paste of a post I wrote on the previous page of this thread...

Personally, I still think it's worth it. We're all in agreement that NEITHER transfer (the 1080p Blu or 4K UHD) is what it "should be".... but the UHD is indeed a significant improvement, in my opinion. The Blu was so overly bright that it didn't even look like a "scary movie" anymore; I always had to lower the Brightness setting on my projector... and even then it was still over-cooked. The UHD sits in a much more appropriate space, in terms of atmospheric darkness. And the toning down of Universal's trademark over-sharpening is a HUGE plus. That fake non-film-grain noise on the old 1080p disc is painful and shocking to see, once you've spent some time with the UHD.

As a good indicator of everything I've been saying, check out the "5th comparison" at caps-a-holic. It pretty much says it all:
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&...116776&i=4&l=0

Hope that helps.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Is the UHD of Jurassic Park a clear upgrade from the BD, or is that debatable?

I have mixed memories of this disc honestly but I remember parts of the UHD looking pretty nice. Then other parts... especially effects shots... would look processed and crappy. It's really a side-grade, not an upgrade or downgrade, IMO.

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Is the UHD of Jurassic Park a clear upgrade from the BD, or is that debatable?
I remember seeing screenshot comparisons once, and the UHD looked very DNR'd to me. The BD of JP is definitely an older master, and has quite a bit of noise, etc., but at least it isn't DNR'd to death.
What's the verdict? Thinking of picking up the collection for TLW and JW.

I think it looks the best it has ever looked, yet still looks like "crap", since there's a lot of DNR (and that's not only effects shots). (and it's in the wrong section in the DNR thread IMHO, but I stopped caring a long time ago)

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by andreasy969

I think it looks the best it has ever looked, yet still looks like "crap", since there's a lot of DNR (and that's not only effects shots). (and it's in the wrong section in the DNR thread IMHO, but I stopped caring a long time ago)

3D Blu kicks UHD’s ass. Better detail. More faithful color grade. Obvious scan of OCN.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I have mixed memories of this disc honestly but I remember parts of the UHD looking pretty nice. Then other parts... especially effects shots... would look processed and crappy. It's really a side-grade, not an upgrade or downgrade, IMO.

UHD is a definite upgrade from the old Blu, just not a big one as it comes from the same garbage source.

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Better detail.

Sure, if by better detail you mean additional, copy/pasted grass. (I don't even count the 3D disc at all)

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by andreasy969

Sure, if by better detail you mean additional, copy/pasted grass. (I don't even count the 3D disc at all)

Stuff like this has no negative impact while watching the movie.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

3D Blu kicks UHD’s ass. Better detail. More faithful color grade. Obvious scan of OCN.

Anyone know of a way to watch a 3D Blu in 2D? I have a 3D capable player (Oppo 203) but only a 2D projector. I'd love it if someone knew some magical settings to output 2D from a 3D disc like JURASSIC PARK (or TOP GUN). I've asked this before on the 3D TOP GUN thread and was told "there's no way"... but it never hurts to widen the response pool.

[mattbee]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Anyone know of a way to watch a 3D Blu in 2D? I have a 3D capable player (Oppo 203) but only a 2D projector. I'd love it if someone knew some magical settings to output 2D from a 3D disc like JURASSIC PARK (or TOP GUN). I've asked this before on the 3D TOP GUN thread and was told "there's no way"... but it never hurts to widen the response pool.

I read something about this before. Have you tried the force 3d option on the oppo I believe this will play a 3d disc even tho the tv does not report being 3d to the player. Not sure what the outcome will be though.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by mattbee

I read something about this before. Have you tried the force 3d option on the oppo I believe this will play a 3d disc even tho the tv does not report being 3d to the player. Not sure what the outcome will be though.

I haven’t. I don’t own any 3D discs, so I was hoping to find out if someone else has been successful.