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Old 11-16-2019, 11:07 PM   #4121
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It's cheesy and goofy as hell in a movie that, while not super serious, was not that cheesy and goofy.



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Old 11-16-2019, 11:25 PM   #4122
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Lost World was my first highly anticipated movie that actually left me feeling very bummed out. The way nearly all of In-gen's entire expedition was wiped out thanks to our 'heroes' really left a bad impression. There are only two things I liked about this movie and it was John Williams soundtrack and David Koepp getting eaten alive by the T-Rex (All while being credited as the 'Unlucky Bast&*$').
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:14 AM   #4123
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I've grown to like TLW. I used to hate it as a kid, but mostly enjoy it...until the last 30 minutes.
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:39 AM   #4124
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I simply don't understand why everyone dislikes a T-Rex in a big city?
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:57 AM   #4125
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I simply don't understand why everyone dislikes a T-Rex in a big city?
Seriously! To me, that was the great unanswered possibility presented by the first film—what if, instead of us coming to them, they came to us (which is why I am so stoked for the next JURASSIC WORLD entry).
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:58 AM   #4126
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Yeah, never understood the hyperbolic hatred for the gymnastics bit and the San Diego ending. The first time we meet Kelly, we find out she's really good at gymnastics but got cut from the team. All she did was swing on a bar and use her momentum to kick the raptor; seemed like a pretty standard move for anyone with even basic gymnastic training, and a logical move to make when the situation presented itself. As for the ending, the 1925 Lost World ended with a dinosaur rampaging through London. Even as a kid I thought it was a nice homage to the classic.

Now, JPIII was the first movie I saw as a kid that genuinely made me angry and question my entire existence. Looked cheap and terrible, awful characters, the most annoying kid in the series, turned into a short B monster movie, killed the T-Rex, ruined Grant and Ellie, and had the dumbest wtf ending imaginable. And yet, much like the prequels, it seems to have experienced a perplexing renaissance in fan opinion in recent years.
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Old 11-17-2019, 02:10 AM   #4127
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Yeah, never understood the hyperbolic hatred for the gymnastics bit and the San Diego ending. The first time we meet Kelly, we find out she's really good at gymnastics but got cut from the team. All she did was swing on a bar and use her momentum to kick the raptor; seemed like a pretty standard move for anyone with even basic gymnastic training, and a logical move to make when the situation presented itself. As for the ending, the 1925 Lost World ended with a dinosaur rampaging through London. Even as a kid I thought it was a nice homage to the classic.

Now, JPIII was the first movie I saw as a kid that genuinely made me angry and question my entire existence. Looked cheap and terrible, awful characters, the most annoying kid in the series, turned into a short B monster movie, killed the T-Rex, ruined Grant and Ellie, and had the dumbest wtf ending imaginable. And yet, much like the prequels, it seems to have experienced a perplexing renaissance in fan opinion in recent years.
This, this and more this. Everyone here has seen dumber stunts in action films WITHOUT genetically engineered frog monsters, I really don’t get the issue here. Before I got internet access I never knew this moment was a problem. Hell, I didn’t know this movie was “hated,” either, never having met any of these vocal critics in real life — the worst criticism I’d heard up to that point was that it wasn’t as good as the first.

Agreed on JPIII as well. Fallen Kingdom was dumb, but the third movie set the bar so low that it really didn’t sting as badly as it would have otherwise. Entertaining as a chase movie, sure, but just because it goes down easy doesn’t mean that it’s not the emptiest calories this franchise has to offer. A McDonald’s hamburger to the steaks of the first two films, if you will. And yes, naysayers can quote me on that.
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:46 AM   #4128
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I really did enjoy Lost World the last time I watched it after not being a fan of it before, but it still feels like a series of vignettes rather than a proper narrative, if that makes sense? Very fun vignettes though.
It follows the Temple Of Doom formula - darker sequel that focuses on being a thrill-ride.

I’ve always thought of Spielberg as a master of set-pieces more than a great storyteller (he doesn’t have the yarn-spinning talents of Frank Darabont or Rob Reiner) and the way he handles the action scenes is genius.

Goldblum trying to evade that raptor is incredible. The way it interacts with the glass, or door, or car - whatever he uses to protect himself with. Using tangible objects and shooting at night to hide any CGI imperfections just gives it a realism that even today’s films can’t match. The film’s a PG and it frightens more than most 18-rated horrors.

You’d hope we’d have seen some protégés of Spielberg/Coppola/Scorsese/Lynch by now but nobody comes even close. They’re in their 70’s and still more exciting and inventive than newer generations. The Irishman has me wetting myself with anticipation and it’s basically a bunch of pensioners having another go
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:53 AM   #4129
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Seriously! To me, that was the great unanswered possibility presented by the first film—what if, instead of us coming to them, they came to us (which is why I am so stoked for the next JURASSIC WORLD entry).
IMO the San Diego sequence doesn't quite fit the rest of the movie. For me, it kind of destroys the mysterious and andventurous aspect. I love the idea of humans running around on an island which is inhabited by dinosaurs and getting chased by them. I guess that is why I really love all of the sequels except Fallen Kingdom which I absolutely hated (which is why I am not looking forward to the next Jurassic World at all). Talking about cheesy and goofy...
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Old 11-17-2019, 05:53 AM   #4130
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Is the 4-movie set of this really thick? I didn't care for Fallen Kingdom so I'd be fine with upgrading the series without it, but I don't want a massive thick set on my shelf. It looks like the 5-disc is pretty thin but I can't get a good photo of the 4-discer.
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Old 11-17-2019, 09:38 AM   #4131
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Now, JPIII was the first movie I saw as a kid that genuinely made me angry and question my entire existence. Looked cheap and terrible, awful characters, the most annoying kid in the series, turned into a short B monster movie, killed the T-Rex, ruined Grant and Ellie, and had the dumbest wtf ending imaginable. And yet, much like the prequels, it seems to have experienced a perplexing renaissance in fan opinion in recent years.
Lost World was a Spielberg movie trying to live up the original and not be a Jaws 2. It is therefore judged on that basis, with a lot of people feeling it failed in its goal. JP3 is just trying to be a goofy monster island movie, and a lot of people appreciate it on that level.
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:10 AM   #4132
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Not a fan of the gymnastics bit myself but the San Diego part is so goddamn entertaining.

It's basically Spielberg's love letter to old monster films like Gojira and The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and it's glorious.
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Old 11-17-2019, 01:35 PM   #4133
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It's basically Spielberg's love letter to old monster films like Gojira and The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms and it's glorious.
I don't really like those movies either, to be fair. Also I would probably like the San Diego section more if it didn't feel rushed and tacked-on to a different movie (IMO).
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Old 11-17-2019, 06:35 PM   #4134
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I don't really like those movies either, to be fair. Also I would probably like the San Diego section more if it didn't feel rushed and tacked-on to a different movie (IMO).
I do agree that it feels tacked on. The transitioning from Isla Sorna to San Diego is really jarring.
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I don't really like those movies either, to be fair. Also I would probably like the San Diego section more if it didn't feel rushed and tacked-on to a different movie (IMO).
I would probably never watch LOST WORLD again if it weren't for the San Diego sequences. And the "ghost ship" emerging out of the fog and slamming mysteriously into the San Diego dock is TOTALLY my type o' scene. LOVE that.
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I don't get that hate for fallen kingdom. Its a fantastic addition to the franchise.
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I don't get that hate for fallen kingdom. Its a fantastic addition to the franchise.
For me, it's kinda like the Lost World of the new franchise. I liked it when it was on the island but it becomes a homage to old horror movies when it leaves.
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I don't get that hate for fallen kingdom. Its a fantastic addition to the franchise.
Because it is an astonishingly stupid film
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Because it is an astonishingly stupid film
Its no more "stupid" than the other films in the series.
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:51 PM   #4140
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I actually liked The Lost World a little less (and, funnily enough, JPIII more) after reading the books.

The Lost World movie is just... completely (well, like 98% completely) different from the book. Why ask Crichton to write a sequel so you could make a movie on it if you’re not gonna follow the source material?

JPIII on the other hand had some stuff from the books that didn’t make it into the first movies which I appreciated.
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