Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

A problem with the short form videos is people brag and prude themselves on having no attention span

Hard to imagine that leading somewhere good

the issue IMHO is people are idiots that think it makes them sound cooler. If someone sits down and watches a 2h film or 2h of tiktok is there a difference on attention span? what if someone watches SNL or the same amount of time of Youtube or how about Monty Python's And Now For Something Completely Different?

i also think it tends to deceive people in the sense that they don't realize they just spent 2h watching stuff because it is a bunch of short videos.

The only negative IMHO is that watching too much "garbage" ends up making people more gullible. but that has no effect on watching.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

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The only negative IMHO is that watching too much "garbage" ends up making people more gullible. but that has no effect on watching.

Crap content is also as old as the movies themselves.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Crap content is also as old as the movies themselves.

Yep. The vast majority of movies, TV shows, books, music, and video games in every era have been crap. But since crap doesn't withstand the test of time people forget about all the crap from the past and think that there is way more of it made today.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The Youtube app has been featured on smart TVs for years; my 2016 4K 3D TV came with it pre-installed. Youtube is popular on several platforms: phones, tablets, laptops, desktops, and TVs; there is nothing new or scary about this fact.

You told us that people watching long form content on their phones meant that TVs were doomed. They aren't.

Now you tell us that people watching short form content on their (doomed) TVs means that long form content is also in trouble. It isn't.

Aren't there enough REAL things to worry about in this life without imagining all of these baseless silly ones?

Yep, a boatload of stuff.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have never heard of anyone priding themselves on having "no attention span."

Short form videos are as old as the movies themselves. They are not a threat to anything.

15-30 second shorts are not as old as time. (Most popular with advertisers)

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Yep. The vast majority of movies, TV shows, books, music, and video games in every era have been crap. But since crap doesn't withstand the test of time people forget about all the crap from the past and think that there is way more of it made today.

How long has Love Island been running?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Why? There should be content to satisfy all customers desires. It in no way means home entertainment is going to shift towards 2 to 5 minute videos. Once again - Chicken Little The Sky Is Falling!

Vertical videos of 15 seconds has no place on a big screen tv, period.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Vertical videos of 15 seconds has no place on a big screen tv, period.

You are welcome to your opinion but that's all it is.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

You are welcome to your opinion but that's all it is.

If I see such content on my smart tv, I will shut that shit down.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

If I see such content on my smart tv, I will shut that shit down.

Your TV, your rules, but that's where your authority ends, Napoleon.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

15-30 second shorts are not as old as time. (Most popular with advertisers)

Actually, they are.

Roundhay Garden Scene 1888 runtime 2.11 seconds.

Dickson Greeting 1891 runtime 3 seconds

Blacksmith Scene 1893 runtime 34 seconds

Carmencita 1894 runtime 21 seconds

The Execution of Mary Stuart 1895 runtime 18 seconds

...and that's just to name a few.

https://www.oldest.org/entertainment/movies/

I have DVD collections that feature numerous such films.

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Actually, they are.

Roundhay Garden Scene 1888 runtime 2.11 seconds.

Dickson Greeting 1891 runtime 3 seconds

Blacksmith Scene 1893 runtime 34 seconds

Carmencita 1894 runtime 21 seconds

The Execution of Mary Stuart 1895 runtime 18 seconds

...and that's just to name a few.

https://www.oldest.org/entertainment/movies/

I have DVD collections that feature numerous such films.

And before video there were 15-30 second poems but they didn't stop people from reading novels.

Short-form content and long-form content have both existed for thousands of years.

[cheez avenger]

Don't know if anyone is still keeping up with the Walking Dead or its spin-offs but the new one, Daryl Dixon, is quite excellent. The first 3 episodes are on AMC+ right now.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Don't know if anyone is still keeping up with the Walking Dead or its spin-offs but the new one, Daryl Dixon, is quite excellent. The first 3 episodes are on AMC+ right now.

I have read good things about that spinoff, but I won't subscribe to AMC+ to see it. Hopefully, I will get a chance to see it on blu-ray someday.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Actually, they are.

Roundhay Garden Scene 1888 runtime 2.11 seconds.

Dickson Greeting 1891 runtime 3 seconds

Blacksmith Scene 1893 runtime 34 seconds

Carmencita 1894 runtime 21 seconds

The Execution of Mary Stuart 1895 runtime 18 seconds

...and that's just to name a few.

https://www.oldest.org/entertainment/movies/

I have DVD collections that feature numerous such films.

Wasn’t that just down to capability though?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Don't know if anyone is still keeping up with the Walking Dead or its spin-offs but the new one, Daryl Dixon, is quite excellent. The first 3 episodes are on AMC+ right now.

No, and I am super pissed about that. I watched every single episode of TWD and stuck with it until the very end, now, folk in the U.K. don’t even have the option of watching the Negan/Maggie spin off or Daryl’s adventures, let alone owning it on disc.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Wasn’t that just down to capability though?

Producers of motion pictures way back when, were not convinced people would pay money to watch their productions. You are talking about the beginning of "movies."

So why sink a lot of money into something that could be called a fad - here today, gone tomorrow.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Wasn’t that just down to capability though?

It was not a limitation due to capability. For example The Corbett-Fitzsimmons Fight was made in 1897 and it ran for over 100 minutes. It was also the first documentary shot in "widescreeen" 1:65 to 1. Same link that I gave before.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

No, and I am super pissed about that. I watched every single episode of TWD and stuck with it until the very end, now, folk in the U.K. don’t even have the option of watching the Negan/Maggie spin off or Daryl’s adventures, let alone owning it on disc.

I only got into E4 of the Negan/Maggie spinoff. I have to go back into. Is AMC+ available in your territory?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

I only got into E4 of the Negan/Maggie spinoff. I have to go back into. Is AMC+ available in your territory?

No. We used to get TWD via Fox (On Sky tv) until Disney took it over. I assumed Disney would be showing the spin offs but nothing. In other words, would have been better off had it still been on Fox. Disney have a habit of pissing me off. They stopped putting out discs for American Horror Story eight seasons in.