The Avatar Blu-ray Release Thread

[jjbsn5192]

Originally Posted by mredman

Man dies during Avatar.

Odd Section - News - Man dies during 'Avatar' screening - Digital Spy

Very disturbing indeed

wow...

that's crazy

[Jesse757x]

Is the 3-d worth it? I already saw the movie in a very old theater so 3-d wasn't available but I'm thinking about seeing it again. Are there a lot of parts in 3-d or is it just like harry potter hbp where the first 15 minutes are in 3-d and thats it?

[Sir Platypus]

Entire movie is 3D. Really gives a sense of depth and "life" to the movie. Think of it as a rollercoaster: Get on any seat and you are going to get an enjoyable ride, but you'll get a lot more out of riding in the front (or back, for some fans). Avatar is a fun movie, but 3D gives it that extra kick. Not to mention that you won't be able to get 3D in your home, at least not very soon.

[jjbsn5192]

Originally Posted by Jesse757x

Is the 3-d worth it? I already saw the movie in a very old theater so 3-d wasn't available but I'm thinking about seeing it again. Are there a lot of parts in 3-d or is it just like harry potter hbp where the first 15 minutes are in 3-d and thats it?

yes. the whole film was 3-D

you'd have to see it..
to believe it

let me tell you

go see it in 3-D leave it at that!

[Sir Platypus]

I was thinking more in terms of price. I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting a few years before even thinking of upgrading.

[jjbsn5192]

Originally Posted by Sir Platypus

I was thinking more in terms of price. I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting a few years before even thinking of upgrading.

dude the best Sony 3-D TV costs..

5000 somethin, and then the 46 inch is around 2,700

all of which are above 2000 range..

im gonna wait till 2011 before i even think of doing 3-D TVs we havent really even seen any 3D films yet. so whats the point of wasting all that cash? when in 2011 it will be cheaper and most likely have a wider variety of blu ray 3D films avaliable.

[Sir Platypus]

Well you know what they say.

When you assume you make an ass out of u and me.... Except I think I just made an ass out of myself exclusively.

I will bow out now, thank you.

Still, see it in 3D, IMAX if possible. Fun times and big screens and aliens and stuff.

[jjbsn5192]

Originally Posted by Sir Platypus

Well you know what they say.

When you assume you make an ass out of u and me.... Except I think I just made an ass out of myself exclusively.

I will bow out now, thank you.

Still, see it in 3D, IMAX if possible. Fun times and big screens and aliens and stuff.

huh!?

[krazyclown]

wonder if the pre order will be up tomorow the pic is from page 16

[SellmeyourDVD]

I wonder if Avatar will be to blu ray like Matrix was to DVD? Do any of you think that Avatar will increase the amount of BD players and HDTV's in homes? Will this movie help push BD into the mainstream? You can say the same thing about 3D; will Avatar help spark a 3D revolution?

I'd like to think the prior, and that 3d wont really take off for another 3 or so years.

[tombobbas]

Originally Posted by SellmeyourDVD

I'd like to think the prior, and that 3d wont really take off for another 3 or so years.

3D is already taking off though, isn't it? It seems like every week studios are announcing that a major new movie will be 3D; most of the nice new TV's coming out this year will be 3D-capable; dozens of major electronics manufacturers are working on 3D Blu-Ray players and glasses; more and more 3D Blu-Ray discs are in the works; cable and satellite providers are adding 3D channels to their programming...I mean, what arbitrary benchmark does it have to reach before people finally start acknowledging that the technology has "taken off"?

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by tombobbas

3D is already taking off though, isn't it? I mean, what arbitrary benchmark does it have to reach before people finally start acknowledging that the technology has "taken off"?

Because 3D "had taken off" before as well and yet did not. 3D as been taking off since the 1950's and yet everytime it just goes away again. I think most people are careful and not getting too excited about it all. Sure Avatar is making amazing numbers right now. What will happen to 3D in 2012 when the next dozen 100 million plus budget movies in 3D fail at the box office? Will it be another round of "we are sorry it's not working, see you all in the 2020's when we will try again!" Just because one movie is popular now in 3D does not mean 3D is here too stay. Humans change their mind and taste quicker then changing their pants.

[tombobbas]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Because 3D "had taken off" before as well and yet did not. 3D as been taking off since the 1950's and yet everytime it just goes away again.

Simply: no. 3D has never even remotely come close to the level of market saturation that it has now. It's at a point now where technology allows for it to be more than just a gimmick, and the way that the film/television/consumer electronics industries are now embracing it wholesale should be more than enough evidence that 3D is here to stay this time.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by tombobbas

Simply: no. 3D has never even remotely come close to the level of market saturation that it has now. It's at a point now where technology allows for it to be more than just a gimmick, and the way that the film/television/consumer electronics industries are now embracing it wholesale should be more than enough evidence that 3D is here to stay this time.

I hope you are right, personaly I do not trust these things anymore....I prefer waiting for time to prove it's here. Call me Thomas I suppose

As for consumer electronics industries are now embracing it wholesale that for me also mean's nothing, only the public is the final judge in that and like I said, the public is funny in their taste from week to week.

[tombobbas]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I hope you are right, personaly I do not trust these things anymore....I prefer waiting for time to prove it's here. Call me Thomas I suppose

As for consumer electronics industries are now embracing it wholesale that for me also mean's nothing, only the public is the final judge in that and like I said, the public is funny in their taste from week to week.

It honestly doesn't matter what the public thinks because consumer electronics are moving to a point where in 2-3 years 3D will simply be standardized, and thus forced on the consumer whether they like it or not. All new HDTV's will be 3D-ready, all new Blu-Ray players will be 3D-capable, and all 3D movies will have one Blu-Ray release that contains both 2D and 3D. A lot of people might resent the fact that they're being bombarded with so much 3D, but it won't matter because it'll be 100% optional as to whether you actually utilize the technology. But people en masse will embrace it.

[UTVOL06]

Originally Posted by jjbsn5192

dude the best Sony 3-D TV costs..

5000 somethin, and then the 46 inch is around 2,700

all of which are above 2000 range..

im gonna wait till 2011 before i even think of doing 3-D TVs we havent really even seen any 3D films yet. so whats the point of wasting all that cash? when in 2011 it will be cheaper and most likely have a wider variety of blu ray 3D films avaliable.

I agree, I just bought an expensive panasonic plasma a month ago. I also don't see a point in buying a 3D TV yet for a few reasons:

1. Who wants to wear glasses...wait for 3D tvs that can do 3D without glasses, which sharp has a prototype.

2. 3D in other forms has been around for 50 years. It has never taken off in the Home. What makes blu-ray 3D so much better to change everyone's minds?

3. Why focus on a 3D effect when the true evolution will be Holographic TVs, which should cultivate within 10 years.

4.If everyone has to go and buy a new 3D TV and Player to get the benefit, which a lot have just upgraded to regular 720P or 1080P TVs. Why not just come out with 4K 2160P resolution super HD tvs instead? Directors already have access and currently use 4K cameras..namely the "Red One" Camera.

5. How is 3D going to catch on now if most people have already shelled out big dollars for a regular non 3D HDTV and Blu-ray player?

[Grevlin]

Yeah, just like that crazy blue-ray thing that tried to take hold a few years ago...

[tehgeck]

Originally Posted by UTVOL06

1. Who wants to wear glasses...wait for 3D tvs that can do 3D without glasses, which sharp has a prototype.

Well people don't seem to mind wearing glasses at the theater, so why would it be any different at home? Actually I take that back, it'd be a lot different at home, but for the better. Theater glasses are cheap and disposable. They have flat plastic 'lenses' that are not optically clear. In fact, to call them lenses is a stretch - they're more translucent filters held in front of your eye. With 3D at home, the glasses will be high-quality and provide a much better 3D image than you see at the theater (transmitting a clear 1080p image to each eye).

As for glasses-free displays, simply put, they're not a viable solution. All the current prototypes are sub-720p (and it shows) and the 3D effect they create is not a very good one. On top of that, the technology necessary to make them would mean that they would cost thousands of dollars more than the current spec.

Originally Posted by UTVOL06

2. 3D in other forms has been around for 50 years. It has never taken off in the Home. What makes blu-ray 3D so much better to change everyone's minds?

The technology makes it better, obviously. That's the reason why everybody and their mother are building products around this new 3D specs - because it's finally viable, plain and simple.

Originally Posted by UTVOL06

3. Why focus on a 3D effect when the true evolution will be Holographic TVs, which should cultivate within 10 years.

You have no empirical basis for this claim whatsoever.

Originally Posted by UTVOL06

4.If everyone has to go and buy a new 3D TV and Player to get the benefit, which a lot have just upgraded to regular 720P or 1080P TVs. Why not just come out with 4K 2160P resolution super HD tvs instead? Directors already have access and currently use 4K cameras..namely the "Red One" Camera.

Because that would be completely pointless. We don't need any higher resolution than 1080p unless we start buying TV's 100" or bigger.

Originally Posted by UTVOL06

5. How is 3D going to catch on now if most people have already shelled out big dollars for a regular non 3D HDTV and Blu-ray player?

Your argument is basically that technology shouldn't evolve because people would constantly have to buy new things. Well, I've got news for you........

[UTVOL06]

Because that would be completely pointless. We don't need any higher resolution than 1080p unless we start buying TV's 100" or bigger.

Thats like saying anything over 2MP cameras are pointless for photos smaller than 8x10" You can still see a difference on the photo in details and on the TV screen with 2160P. Granted a 100" Screen would make it easier to see the detail advantage, but you'd still be able to tell the difference on a 56" Screen. I mean they sell 52 and 56" 2160P screens to graphic design departments. We will eventually see UltraHD TVs with 8K resolution some day. Resolution and detail will progress further than 1080p. If you look at photography there is a lot gained going from 1 or 2mP to 5 or 6MP. How is this any different than an image being displayed on a tv?

Well people don't seem to mind wearing glasses at the theater, so why would it be any different at home? Actually I take that back, it'd be a lot different at home, but for the better. Theater glasses are cheap and disposable. They have flat plastic 'lenses' that are not optically clear. In fact, to call them lenses is a stretch - they're more translucent filters held in front of your eye. With 3D at home, the glasses will be high-quality and provide a much better 3D image than you see at the theater (transmitting a clear 1080p image to each eye).

As for glasses-free displays, simply put, they're not a viable solution. All the current prototypes are sub-720p (and it shows) and the 3D effect they create is not a very good one. On top of that, the technology necessary to make them would mean that they would cost thousands of dollars more than the current spec.

Actually I don't like wearing glasses at all at the theater..it creates more eye strain to me. I have no want to wear glasses chilling at home. when I'd be much more comfortable without them.

You said glasses free tvs are not ready yet, but they will be eventually if 3D takes off. cost does come down...just like LED tv costs were really high and are coming down.

Originally Posted by UTVOL06
3. Why focus on a 3D effect when the true evolution will be Holographic TVs, which should cultivate within 10 years.
You have no empirical basis for this claim whatsoever.

Oh really? http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science...ion/index.html

Your argument is basically that technology shouldn't evolve because people would constantly have to buy new things. Well, I've got news for you........

Actually my argument is that 3D tech has been around a long time and it has never taken off in the home...ever. My point is it was a big step just to get people to buy 720 and 1080P Tvs and buy blu-ray players...Blu-ray has still not taken over DVD. Now this new 3D spec blu-ray tech is out..now it's asking everyone to buy a whole new TV again along with a new player. Thats asking too much too fast.

I have always been on the tip of the sword when it comes to technology, so its not like I don't spend lots of cash on new tech.

(transmitting a clear 1080p image to each eye)

If 3D blu-ray can create a true clear as 2D 1080P image in 3D while wearing glasses, I may be open to it. I don't believe the technology for 3D has gotten to the point where it can display with the same clarity as a 2D 1080P blu-ray.

[perfectdark]

Originally Posted by tombobbas

3D is already taking off though, isn't it? It seems like every week studios are announcing that a major new movie will be 3D; most of the nice new TV's coming out this year will be 3D-capable; dozens of major electronics manufacturers are working on 3D Blu-Ray players and glasses; more and more 3D Blu-Ray discs are in the works; cable and satellite providers are adding 3D channels to their programming...I mean, what arbitrary benchmark does it have to reach before people finally start acknowledging that the technology has "taken off"?

Which cable and satellite providers are adding 3D programming to their lineups? I'm a Head End technician for a cable companies primary hub and we have no plans for any 3D programming and nor does our 2 Satellite companies here in Canada. Is this just exclusive to the USA?