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[garlad]

Originally Posted by b0bby

what does it say/show? im at work. not work safe i assume?

A lot of foul and abusive language describing Henry and it wishes ill health on this family..

I wont post it here, but to give you an idea..

Thierry ¨Le ****¨ Henry (French pronunciation: born 17 August 1977) is a French **** footballer who plays for Spanish La Liga club Barcelona and the ****ing French national team, predominantly as a ****.

[b0bby]

Originally Posted by garlad

A lot of foul and abusive language describing Henry and it wishes ill health on this family..

I wont post it here, but to give you an idea..

i dont know why the hate is on henry. fans have a twisted view like always. the hate should go to fifa and the ref. if the roles were switched and robbie keane handed the ball and france got booted then platini would be up in arms. they would probably lead the charge to making the changes of adding more refs or adding instant replay. ireland is unlucky to be a smaller side.

i remember pundits saying all it takes is for 1 wrong decision to go against a big team for changes to happen. i dont know if ireland is big enough but lets hope this leads to changes.

[Blu_Ray_UK2007]

The replay will never happen too many people high up in fifa & uefa are french!

[Anti-SD]

Some people are just sick.

[Jellybeans]

FRANCE'S HENRY ADMITS TO INTENTIONAL HAND BALL

Source :http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=298877

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

FRANCE'S HENRY ADMITS TO INTENTIONAL HAND BALL

Source :http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=298877

You're a little late to the party!

John

[ManUtd]

Originally Posted by Blu_Ray_UK2007

The replay will never happen too many people high up in fifa & uefa are french!

I agree, while there is a precedent for this I doubt anything happen if the French NT is involved.

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

FRANCE'S HENRY ADMITS TO INTENTIONAL HAND BALL

Source :http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=298877

While he admitted it was intentional, he is now washing his hands and saying it was the ref's fault for not seeing it. No matter how anyone sugar-coats this, cheating is cheating and has no place in sports or anywhere for that matter.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by Blu_Ray_UK2007

The replay will never happen too many people high up in fifa & uefa are french!

Originally Posted by ManUtd

I agree, while there is a precedent for this I doubt anything happen if the French NT is involved.

Bullshit! Sounds like "sour grapes" comments to me.

This incident has no doubt worked up everyone who loves football, but to lay blame on the sources you eluded to is is short-sighted and unconstructive. The blame, IMO, should be layed squarely on the officiating, no one else.

John

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by Jellybeans

FRANCE'S HENRY ADMITS TO INTENTIONAL HAND BALL

Source :http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/story/?id=298877

A very disappointing revelation on Henry's part. He did acknowledge responsibility, so I'll give him that much. Given the stakes involved, I understand why the FAI and its supporters would be livid over his actions and public admission, and in so doing, tarnished his image as a respected footballer.

[ManUtd]

Originally Posted by John72953

Bullshit! Sounds like "sour grapes" comments to me.

This incident has no doubt worked up everyone who loves football, but to lay blame on the sources you eluded to is is short-sighted and unconstructive. The blame, IMO, should be layed squarely on the officiating, no one else.

John

I have no interest and honestly don't really care for the Irish or French NT so no sour graping here. I am merely agreeing with Shane that it is very unlikely that a replay will ever happen. The precedent I was referring to was the match between Uzbekistan and Bahrain in 2005. Although circumstances are different, for me this is just another "technical error" by the officials. Again, I highly doubt that this match will be replayed, that's all.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by ManUtd

I have no interest and honestly don't really care for the Irish or French NT so no sour graping here. I am merely agreeing with Shane that it is very unlikely that a replay will ever happen. The precedent I was referring to was the match between Uzbekistan and Bahrain in 2005. Although circumstances are different, for me this is just another "technical error" by the officials. Again, I highly doubt that this match will be replayed, that's all.

I'll agree with you there.

And I'll add I don't think it should either. I do know that in light of this latest "f*ckup by the referees, serious consideration should be given to video replay or recall when it involves a goal.

John

[Slec]

After the game, Henry sat on the Stade de France pitch talking to Richard Dunne, the Irish defender. We don't know what was said, but Henry seemed genuinely crestfallen. I've had the opportunity to spend a little time with him and I like to think he told Dunne what had happened and that he was genuinely sorry that Ireland won't be making it to the World Cup.

Those words may or may not have helped Dunne and his teammates feel better (probably not). But they do, at least in my mind, show that Henry is not just a craven cheat. A cheat would have ignored his fallen opponents after the game, he would have been careful to bask in the celebrations and then skulk off into the darkness, avoiding the enormity of what he did. Henry isn't like that.

But, alas, he is human. And, faced with temptation, he gave in. I'd like to say that things even themselves out over time, that there is some kind of global karma that will ensure that Henry ends up on the receiving end of such misdeeds sometime soon. But, in fact, that's not how the game (or life) works. Things are unfair. They do not even themselves out.

The other side. Great video of the whole play as well in the story as well

[garlad]

Originally Posted by John72953

I'll agree with you there.

And I'll add I don't think it should either. I do know that in light of this latest "f*ckup by the referees, serious consideration should be given to video replay or recall when it involves a goal.

John

IT HAPPENS! IT'S FOOTBALL!! It's been happening for years.. Just get over it.

Imagine if this was replayed!! Then every game so far this season would have a right to be replayed! "Well they shouldnt have got that peno".. "We should have got that peno".. "The ball was over the line!" ...Any excuse to replay a game would be then brought to the governing bodies.. It would be a farce.

[ManUtd]

Originally Posted by garlad

IT HAPPENS! IT'S FOOTBALL!! It's been happening for years.. Just get over it.

Imagine if this was replayed!! Then every game so far this season would have a right to be replayed! "Well they shouldnt have got that peno".. "We should have got that peno".. "The ball was over the line!" ...Any excuse to replay a game would be then brought to the governing bodies.. It would be a farce.

Well if something like instant replay/review and may be even additional officials was implemented then all these claims for a whole match replayed would be unnecessary.

[Nielsb90]

I feel terribly sorry for the Irish fans..

It must suck so bad when its such an important game..
I am surprised when one week you have refs seeing everything and then next week someone messes up this bad!

[garlad]

After the game, Henry sat on the Stade de France pitch talking to Richard Dunne, the Irish defender. We don't know what was said, but Henry seemed genuinely crestfallen. I've had the opportunity to spend a little time with him and I like to think he told Dunne what had happened and that he was genuinely sorry that Ireland won't be making it to the World Cup.
Those words may or may not have helped Dunne and his teammates feel better (probably not). But they do, at least in my mind, show that Henry is not just a craven cheat. A cheat would have ignored his fallen opponents after the game, he would have been careful to bask in the celebrations and then skulk off into the darkness, avoiding the enormity of what he did. Henry isn't like that.

But, alas, he is human. And, faced with temptation, he gave in. I'd like to say that things even themselves out over time, that there is some kind of global karma that will ensure that Henry ends up on the receiving end of such misdeeds sometime soon. But, in fact, that's not how the game (or life) works. Things are unfair. They do not even themselves out.

Originally Posted by garlad

All the hate will be towards Henry, but what can he do? It's instinct! "Keep the ball in play!" He wasnt thinking, as the ball was coming in, "I'm going to handle this ball".. It just happened in the blink of an eye.

Henry sat down beside Dunne after the game. I would like to think that Henry actually said "Sorry.. what could I do?" to Dunne. I believe he did. Henry respects Dunne from their time playing against each other in England and I think Dunne would have accepted his apology and accept that, although they seem unfair at the time, these things happen.

Originally Posted by Slec

The other side. Great video of the whole play as well in the story as well

Exactly my thoughts as I said last night Slec. Nice find.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by garlad

IT HAPPENS! IT'S FOOTBALL!! It's been happening for years.. Just get over it.

Imagine if this was replayed!! Then every game so far this season would have a right to be replayed! "Well they shouldnt have got that peno".. "We should have got that peno".. "The ball was over the line!" ...Any excuse to replay a game would be then brought to the governing bodies.. It would be a farce.

Exactly! You implement rules prior to ......."pointe finale"...

This is a really unfortunate incident and I feel for the Irish fans, I really do; but to demand a replay of the game would be just as unfair.

John

[Slec]

Originally Posted by garlad

Exactly my thoughts as I said last night Slec. Nice find.

Was trying to bolster the side against all the hate. I'm more impressed with your initial postings yesterday. I thought you did an outstanding job taking a step back and dissecting it. I've seen the replay 50 times now. eeep.

All the US Sports shows are leading off with it. Atleast they're talking about footy

[garlad]

Originally Posted by Slec

Was trying to bolster the side against all the hate. I'm more impressed with your initial postings yesterday. I thought you did an outstanding job taking a step back and dissecting it. I've seen the replay 50 times now. eeep.

All the US Sports shows are leading off with it. Atleast they're talking about footy

Thank you Slec

France captain Thierry Henry has risked further wrath from Republic of Ireland after admitting it 'was neccesary to exploit what was exploitable' regarding his handball in their World Cup play-off.

The Irish have branded the striker a 'cheat' after he handled the ball in the build-up to William Gallas' extra-time goal in Wednesday's second leg, which gave Les Bleus a 2-1 aggregate win and a place in South Africa next summer.

Ireland's Football Association has submitted a written request to Fifa asking for a replay following the highly controversial events in Paris, but a source at world football's governing body has said there is 'no way' the plea will be answered.

Henry has already admitted to handling the ball and has now apologised, but the Barcelona star has also threatened to cause fresh outrage after confessing that he needed to help his side respond to Robbie Keane's first-half strike.

He said on his Twitter page: "I'm not the referee, but if I hurt someone I'm sorry.
"It was not a beautiful match. It was just neccesary to exploit what was exploitable.

Pressure
"The Irishmen could have doubled their lead two or three times. The ball ran up against my hand and I continued to play, the referee did not whistle and there was a goal.
"I would have preferred that it happened differently but this is not down to me - it is the referee. However, I do not believe our qualification is stolen.

"I said to Richard Dunne that the ball had touched my hand, but he told me, 'you are not to blame'."
When asked if Henry should have owned up, the forward's former manager at Arsenal, Frenchman Arsene Wenger, said on television in his homeland: "One should not say. Well, one should but one does not.

"We know the pressure and what is at stake. France should not gain qualification with these things. All the stadium has seen the handball, but the referee has not.

"This is not the French way and football should learn from this. In the end we qualified because of a referee's mistake."

Henry saying exactly what I would expect him to say and, frankly, he is being honest about what happened. Dunne, as I knew he would after the match, accepted what Henry said.

Also,

"In the end we qualified because of a referee's mistake."

I think the above might be misinterpreted. It will appear that he is blaming the referee, I don’t think this is the case. I think he is just saying that as the ref didn’t spot the handball (how many refs would have!!) the goal rightly stood. I thought the ref had an excellent game and even the commentators during the coverage I was watching said the same. He got all the decisions correct, including the moment when Anelka went down. Looked a peno, but after seeing the replay, it wasn’t. He could easily have given a home decision there and awarded a penalty. Once I switched over to Irish coverage at the end of the game, they strongly believed that the ref and his officials should never be allowed be in charge of another match again

[gvortex7]

Honestly, when has ANY player ever admitted to handling a ball in similar plays. They would all do the same as Henry. If it happened, then they continue on with the play and if possible score a goal or pass to a team mate to score one. They would always leave it up to the referee to make the call. That's competitive sports for ya. So, chastising Henry for doing this is just plain ridiculous.