The Avatar Blu-ray Release Thread

[DrNegative]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

Cameron has also said that the cut in cinemas is what he wanted, nno cuts etc neaded. If he wanted it I think he wouldn't have simply assumed he couldn't get it, he would have at least tried submitting it, or so would be loghical.

I would say it is all about money. Cameron has been in the industry long enough to know what he can get by with the MPAA. The "R" rating would have killed the film's profits, and Fox wouldn't have liked that considering they were paying for the production bill. The MPAA don't mind blood and gore, but anything that even hints at sex....they slap it with an "R".

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by DrNegative

I would say it is all about money. Cameron has been in the industry long enough to know what he can get by with the MPAA. The "R" rating would have killed the film's profits, and Fox wouldn't have liked that considering they were paying for the production bill. The MPAA don't mind blood and gore, but anything that even hints at sex....they slap it with an "R".

You mean it would have ony made $1 billion.

[slick1ru2]

One bad thing to come out of the new technology used for Avatar. Cameron is going to spend millions using it to convert Titanic to 3d with a probable release date on the anniversary of the disaster in 1912. Ugh.I'll never understand how that movie made all that money unless it was because of women making their husbands/boyfriends take them out to see it. I would prefer he spend his time on Avatar 2, the underwater sequel he said he was going to do next. Wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a trilogy.

[nolfoc]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

One bad thing to come out of the new technology used for Avatar. Cameron is going to spend millions using it to convert Titanic to 3d with a probable release date on the anniversary of the disaster in 1912. Ugh. I would prefer he spend that time on Avatar 2, the underwater sequel he said he was going to do next. Wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a trilogy.

has Cameron ever done a sequel? i feel like he stops after 2 movies, im acutually shocked he wants to do a sequel for this

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by nolfoc

has Cameron ever done a sequel? i feel like he stops after 2 movies, im acutually shocked he wants to do a sequel for this

Its all right here. Sounds like he thinks he can shave up to 25% off the production time since at the end of Avatar they were finally getting proficient with the technology. And, they don't need to reinvent the technology since it already exits, hence that time is saved. It sounds like he could produce a bunch of spin off movies on the planets in Alpha Centauri system. He has the money and the talent to take it any way he wants.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by nolfoc

has cameron ever done a sequel?

t2


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[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

And what do you want to bet that this time it deals with underwater oil spills that the greedy humans have caused?


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The LA Times interview was published on the day of the spill but, of course, was from a week or 2 earlier.

[DJ Manyak]

any news on a release date with extras ?

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by DJ Blend

any news on a release date with extras ?

I think August is when they are going to re-release it to theaters with up to 12 minutes of extra footage from the sources I am reading. Cameron thinks it was pulled from IMAX and digital 3D screens early because of Alice In Wonderland and that it should have made another couple hundred million than it did. So I would not think they would release the extras disc at the same time and are probably pulling all of the current stock in July before the August release.

[airkitty]

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[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by nolfoc

has Cameron ever done a sequel?

Originally Posted by Duffy12

t2


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Don't forget Piranha Part Two: The Spawning.

[Shinomori Aoshi]

Movie looked excellent on BD, but I'm going to do the smart thing and wait for the Ultimate edition. Hopefully it won't be too outrageous of a price.

[DrNegative]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Don't forget Piranha Part Two: The Spawning.

I am sure even he wishes he could undo that one. Don't forget Aliens though, which was a sequel to a movie he didn't direct. I don't think he will disappoint with Avatar 2, with that résumé.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Don't forget Piranha Part Two: The Spawning.

Originally Posted by DrNegative

I am sure even he wishes he could undo that one.

Obviously that one doesn't count. From IMDB:

"Credit for directing this film was given to James Cameron. Most of the work was actually performed by Ovidio G. Assonitis, the film's producer and prolific film-maker. Assonitis was dissatisfied with Cameron's progress after the first week and took over. According to "Dreaming Aloud," a biography of James Cameron by Christopher Heard, Cameron did do the shooting for this movie, but was not allowed to see his footage and was not involved in editing. He broke into the editing room and cut his own version, but was caught and Assonitis re-cut it again."

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[odvan]

Originally Posted by DrNegative

A worldwide theatrical re-release of this edition hasn't been confirmed as of yet.

Cameron told about worldwide re-release. It didn't confirm for US also.

November edition on BD should include around 30 minutes of additional footage with complete CGI. WETA requires 5-6 month to finish rendering.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by odvan

November edition on BD should include around 30 minutes of additional footage with complete CGI. WETA requires 5-6 month to finish rendering.

And lots of money to do it too.

So has that 30min of additional footage been confirmed, as I have only heard of about 12min additional completed being added?


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[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

And lots of money to do it too.

So has that 30min of additional footage been confermed, as I have only heard of about 12min additional completed being added?


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Cameron and Landau only talked about the extended cut with six added minutes and finished CG, and a workprint, with a half hour of scenes, but unfinished, put back in.

[DrNegative]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

And lots of money to do it too.

So has that 30min of additional footage been confermed, as I have only heard of about 12min additional completed being added?

Cameron stated in an interview about the "special edition" here:

"It will have a lot of great features, making of stuff and behind the scenes stuff. You’ll be able to do a branching experience where you can select if you want to watch the basic movie, if you want to watch the movie with six minutes of footage added back in, or if you want to watch an earlier cut of the film that has 30 or 35 minutes of additional footage. It will be an unrecognizable movie. You’ll be going on a journey into a whole different version of Avatar. And some of the scenes won’t be done because we won’t have the budget to finish 20 or 30 minutes of CG stuff. We’re taking the Greatest Hits six minutes and finishing that."

Now it gets confusing because another 6 minutes was already finished but was cut from the film before its theatrical release. That is what brings the total (speculative) to 12 minutes.

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

Cameron has also said that the cut in cinemas is what he wanted, nno cuts etc neaded. If he wanted it I think he wouldn't have simply assumed he couldn't get it, he would have at least tried submitting it, or so would be loghical.

I found something else...

Of course Cameron doesn't mention the scene was pulled for fear of an "R" rating here.

"They don't do it in the film because, quite frankly, people were freaked out by it," Cameron explained. "We're just going to put it back in. If we do the re-release, that will be one of the things that we look at possibly reinstating."

So who knows why he cut it, must have been his test-audience reaction, but it sounds like he is set on putting it back in regardless of the prior reason.

[Duffy12]

Also, I remember reading that one of the finished scenes will end up being held over, and put back into it's sequel Avatar II, which I am guessing is the one involving the 'Sturmbeest' hunt. So instead of 10min extra finished footage, it is now 6min, plus the extra unfinished 20min or so!


From an older Avatar post:



http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...91/story.jhtml

James Cameron Previews 10 Minutes Of Deleted 'Avatar' Scenes For DVD
'There's plenty for a value-added DVD experience on this film,' director says.

By "Titanic" standards, James Cameron's 160-minute-long "Avatar" is but a mere sprint compared to that marathon of a maritime disaster flick. Still, the director had to make some tough choices about what to include in the finished film and what needed to be left on the cutting-room floor.

And what was left behind was 10 to 12 minutes of motion-captured goodness, as Cameron revealed exclusively to MTV News. Much of the footage focused on the native Na'vi people of Pandora, those sinewy blue aliens that live at one with nature until the resource-plundering humans decide the spot most in need of digging is the place the natives call home.

"It's all wonderful stuff, but it was sort of bogging down the middle section of the movie," Cameron said. "So there's plenty for a value-added DVD experience on this film. Of course, we'll have to go punch it all up and get it all mixed and stuff like that."

An important chunk of those 10-plus minutes is devoted to a trial that Jake Sully (Sam Worthington), who joins the Na'vi through his mind-controlled alien avatar, must pass to truly become one of the clan. It involves a hunt for a Sturmbeest, a sort of colorful, overgrown rhino.

"That was kind of cool," Worthington said. "It was intricately designed."

"It's a creature you no longer see in the movie," Cameron said of the Sturmbeest. "[Sully] has to learn how to hunt through the air and do this incredibly brave thing, and then after the hunt they have this big festival and they dance and there's a drunk scene with [Na'vi member] Tsu'tey, which is Laz Alonso's character, which is actually pretty damn funny."

The deleted scenes also include the introduction of the heads of other Na'vi clans. Speaking with MTV News, Zoe Saldana, who plays Na'vi princess Neytiri, discussed another aspect of the production that she missed seeing in the finished version: the interactions between scientist Grace Augustine (Sigourney Weaver) and the Na'vi people.

"It's the connection that Grace has to the people and how this came to be," the actress said. "That was all in the script. Grace had taught them. She's the reason they speak English. There's a school that she had there. She'd go every single day and she fell in love with these children."

The 'Sturmbeest'!

[Duffy12]

I found this over on jamescameron.blogspot.com which has some of the cut script and partially filmed scenes from the film.

Very interesting, check it out-


The Avatar Screenplay: Alterations, Deletions, & Analysis



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