Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[nick4Knight]

That claim is an exaggerated one for sure. "bad transfer" is not representative of how most experience it. One might find 'could have been better' hits a little closer to reality.

Universal is not the one who treats it like shit. Sir Spielberg neglects it, and when he does we end up with what we do.

[Ben_UK]

Originally Posted by nick4Knight

That claim is an exaggerated one for sure. "bad transfer" is not representative of how most experience it. One might find 'could have been better' hits a little closer to reality.

Universal is not the one who treats it like shit. Sir Spielberg neglects it, and when he does we end up with what we do.

I’ve no idea what they did when they came up with this OCN master, people claim it to be from the OCN, which it might well be, but quite what happened after that is anyone’s guess as it looks horrible. It’s not the worst thing ever but it’s only ever going to be a 3 out of 5 for video in my opinion.

I also don’t get this notion of Spielberg not caring about the film, if he doesn’t care about it, why not then let Universal do what they want with it?

[emailking]

Spielberg made the 3D version which is incredible.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Ben_UK

I’ve no idea what they did when they came up with this OCN master, people claim it to be from the OCN, which it might well be, but quite what happened after that is anyone’s guess as it looks horrible. It’s not the worst thing ever but it’s only ever going to be a 3 out of 5 for video in my opinion.

I also don’t get this notion of Spielberg not caring about the film, if he doesn’t care about it, why not then let Universal do what they want with it?

I shudder at the thought of Universal being left unsupervised with this or any film. Ja, they've gotten so much betterer but still have a tendency to blitz the shiznit out of opticals with DNR...which is what happened with JP1, strangely enough.

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I shudder at the thought of Universal being left unsupervised with this or any film. Ja, they've gotten so much betterer but still have a tendency to blitz the shiznit out of opticals with DNR...which is what happened with JP1, strangely enough.

With everybody saying that UHD is the last ever home video disc format, I doubt we'll ever get another remaster, let alone a good one. JP1 home videos suffer from poor colour grading and poor framing while JP3 suffers from wrong colour grading and dulled brightness. Only The Lost World seems to look comparably better for some reason; even though it too has a different colour grading and framing compared to the cinema projection.

[downisthenewup87]

So the 4k is 10 bucks on Amazon. Should I grab it or keep an eye out for the 3d version at the Disc Replays out in the burbs?

[JohnCarpenterFan]

I think the 3D version is the best way to experience this on home video. I think it's the only version of the film on home video that we know had some involvement from Spielberg, plus while the grading isn't perfect, I think it's a hell of a lot better than the regular Blu-ray and UHD.

[7Mile]

I think the JP1 UHD gets too much hate. It could be better, but it's good enough for me to never focus on its flaws when I watch the 4K.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I shudder at the thought of Universal being left unsupervised with this or any film. Ja, they've gotten so much betterer but still have a tendency to blitz the shiznit out of opticals with DNR...which is what happened with JP1, strangely enough.

Extra strange since JP 35mm in general seems to have somewhat less bitingly apparent grain jumping out at you than typical for each scene type. It seems to have had a lot, most, of it shot in ways that kept grain seemingly lower than is often the case for given scenarios.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

Extra strange since JP 35mm in general seems to have somewhat less bitingly apparent grain jumping out at you than typical for each scene type. It seems to have had a lot, most, of it shot in ways that kept grain seemingly lower than is often the case for given scenarios.

The day exteriors were shot on 100-speed stock, i.e. a slow-ish emulsion with very fine grain.

[thebarnman]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

With everybody saying that UHD is the last ever home video disc format, I doubt we'll ever get another remaster, let alone a good one.

Never say never especially when it comes to remasters especially with big titles like this. It might be a while but there's always a anniversary that comes along that's worth another go.

[Sidney Prescott]

Originally Posted by 7Mile

I think the JP1 UHD gets too much hate. It could be better, but it's good enough for me to never focus on its flaws when I watch the 4K.

Agreed. It's certainly better than the Blu-ray, which was a distraction. The 4K isn't perfect, by any means, but I still think the film looks solid, and I can experience it in full without being taken out by any of its flaws.

That said, I've never been one to obsess over flaws like a lot of other physical media collectors seem to. Unless a transfer is astronomically bad, I tend to be relatively satisfied. And hey, I grew up watching Jurassic Park on a worn-out VHS tape and a boxed TV. Being able to now watch it on a 65" 4K TV and a more than decent 4K disc is a dream, in comparison.

Will I buy a better transfer, should it ever be made? Absolutely. Jurassic Park is my favorite film of all time. But will I be bummed if this is as good as it gets? Not really.

[kamikazilucas]

what exactly is wrong with jurassic park on 4k bluray, it looks perfectly fine to me

[kamikazilucas]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

I think the 3D version is the best way to experience this on home video. I think it's the only version of the film on home video that we know had some involvement from Spielberg, plus while the grading isn't perfect, I think it's a hell of a lot better than the regular Blu-ray and UHD.

2011 bluray looks best, 3d bluray is way too orange

[dvdvhsvcd]

is the 6 film collection that bad to own at 44.99? i own none of them. are bluray options better ?

[7Mile]

Originally Posted by dvdvhsvcd

is the 6 film collection that bad to own at 44.99? i own none of them. are bluray options better ?

The 4K's are better.

[nick4Knight]

Originally Posted by Sidney Prescott

Agreed. It's certainly better than the Blu-ray, which was a distraction. The 4K isn't perfect, by any means, but I still think the film looks solid, and I can experience it in full without being taken out by any of its flaws...

This is more and more what I've been coming to. I was always in the "its a middling transfer" camp but I did enjoy the movie on this format despite this. And I more or less "concede" it isn't stellar... I do personally find it pleasing. I might have made that clear over the years

Originally Posted by Sidney Prescott

That said, I've never been one to obsess over flaws like a lot of other physical media collectors seem to. Unless a transfer is astronomically bad, I tend to be relatively satisfied. And hey, I grew up watching Jurassic Park on a worn-out VHS tape and a boxed TV. Being able to now watch it on a 65" 4K TV and a more than decent 4K disc is a dream, in comparison.

Quoted and bolded for truth.. This is one that gets a pass as the way we experience it today is SO far past my brain @ 17, in my watching the VHS obsessively on repeat late 90s phase, could ever imagine it would look one day! Screen sizes now and clarity is wild to juxtapose to my teen memories lol I certainly prefer, appreciate when Matrix UHD in Dolby Vision is presented THAT amazing to us now. And Raiders. And Jaws. And The Shining, Pulp Fiction, Scream, Mission: Impossible.

Alien, The Mummy and Die Hard. Yeah sure I wish perfection in a vacuum on Jurassic Park like those HDR10 releases got. Of course.

But we of an age where VHS was the first 10-20 viewings of most catalog movies. It's a great time to be alive and feeling spoiled. I wanna choose to celebrate the format giving us a higher low on UHD than a perfect 5/5 picture on VHS or laserdisc.

Originally Posted by Sidney Prescott

Will I buy a better transfer, should it ever be made? Absolutely. Jurassic Park is my favorite film of all time. But will I be bummed if this is as good as it gets? Not really.

100% agreed. I'll be the first to smash buy a 40,50, 60$ set with this if it gets re-done one day. Hell if it took 75$ that is one movie I'd make an exception on price principle if higher got it funded.

But ultimately I'll be happy, satisfied and enjoying the UHD for decades even if this is it.

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by kamikazilucas

what exactly is wrong with jurassic park on 4k bluray, it looks perfectly fine to me

The colour grading is not faithful at all to the theatrical prints and the framing of the shots have been tightened (zoomed-in) compared to the 35mm projection and the laserdisc. The original film has a tropical warm look and has higher contrast, better colour separation compared to any of the home video editions released so far. Also, the UHD has noise reduction, which smoothens the picture and reduces film grain. The gate weave has been completely removed and as a result, the title sequence looks dead and video-ish, as opposed to motion picture film. These are my observations.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Riddhi2011

With everybody saying that UHD is the last ever home video disc format, I doubt we'll ever get another remaster, let alone a good one.

I guess there's a chance our niche enthusiast market lasts long enough that massive films like this get licensed, but odds are against for sure.

Honestly I'd take this same master without the processing done to effects shots. I haven't watched it in a while but that's the main flaw in my memory, and I'm not someone who stares longingly at the 3D version's color timing.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by kamikazilucas

2011 bluray looks best, 3d bluray is way too orange

perhaps, although the orange and yellow, for the greens at least, is closer to the original theatrical look, the grass and leaves often had a noticeable yellow-orange tint and were often pale, not at all rich green green or blue green

granted you may prefer the latter, so could call it best even if less theatrically true