I'm sick of hearing that HD DVD is "winning"

[radagast]

I found this on cdrinfo.com:


"Toshiba has announced its third generation of HD DVD players, and puts pressure on the Blu-ray camp by starting prices at $299.99.

Electronics maker Toshiba is ratcheting up competition with the Blu-ray high-definition video camp again, announcing its third generation of its HD-A HD DVD players for the U.S. market. The three new units are timed to hit retailers just as the end-of-year holiday buying season ramps up, and all three units will be priced under under $500, and with low-end pricing starting at just $299.99.

Keeping up with Toshiba's non-stop claims that the HD DVD format is dominating the high-definition market, the VP of Marketing for Toshiba's Digital A/V Group, Jodi Sally, stated: "With a majority market share in unit sales of next generation DVD players, consumers are speaking loud and clear, and they are adopting HD DVD as their HD movie format of choice. Because of the proven manufacturing efficiencies of the HD DVD format, Toshiba can bring this level of innovation in technology to a new generation of players with cutting-edge functionality at affordable prices."

At the low end, the HD-A3 will carry a $299.99 price tag, and feature 1080i output, while the HD-A30 ($399.99) and the HD-A35 ($499.99) offer 1080p/24 output. The HD-A30 and A35 will also offer HDMI-CEC?which Toshiba is calling "CE-Link"?to enable two-way control between the HD DVD player and a television. At the high end, the A35 will support Deep Color, 5.1 analog surround output, 7.1 audio output via HDMI. All three units will sport a slim new chassis design just under 60 mm thick, with a high-gloss black acrylic face. All three new players will support Internet-enabled interactive content.

Toshiba says the A30 should land at retailers in September, with the A3 and A35 following along in October. Of course, as the holiday season gets underway and the Blu-ray camp fires back, consumers can reasonably expect promotions and possibly discount pricing to sweeten deals on both sides of the format war."


If hd-dvd is winning, why do they need to keep dropping their prices?

[darkloki]

Why do you let this Bother you? It's kinda pathetic if you're losing sleep over this, ENjoy your Blu Ray player and start watching more movies instead of more stats and news. Or are you one of those people who stares at his neighbors lawn all day wondering if the grass really is greener on the other side?

[JTK]

Originally Posted by darkloki

Why do you let this Bother you? It's kinda pathetic if you're losing sleep over this, ENjoy your Blu Ray player and start watching more movies instead of more stats and news. Or are you one of those people who stares at his neighbors lawn all day wondering if the grass really is greener on the other side?

No, he's someone that hates deliberate lies.

It's called having integrity. Look it up sometime.

[darkloki]

Originally Posted by JTK

No, he's someone that hates deliberate lies.

It's called having integrity. Look it up sometime.

So because I own an HD DVD player it means that I have no Integrity? I don't quite follow you wanna go into more detail? Oh and I'm still sticking with the idea that you'd enjoy youself more if you just watched your Blu Ray films more and collected and built your Blu Ray Collection rather then focusing onto who is technically winning the war.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by darkloki

So because I own an HD DVD player it means that I have no Integrity? I don't quite follow you wanna go into more detail?

People can read your post history and go no further than about 8 pm EDT last night and see what nonsense and BS you're full of.

I don't have to go into any detail. The work's already been done for me.

[darkloki]

It's kinda pathetic how much hatred consumes you, it's beyond me it's beyond HD DVD's and Blu Rays. Done talking to ya, I'd rather get back to work.

[haushausman]

I can't believe they are peddling a 1080i stand alone for $299... wonder how many people bought that not knowing it's 1080i.

I hate lies as well. That statement pisses me off too. If you're the type of person that is not bothered the littlest bit by that then there's something wrong with you. And you also probably voted for Bush.... again

[ProvenFlipper]

Originally Posted by JTK

People can read your post history and go no further than about 8 pm EDT last night and see what nonsense and BS you're full of.

I don't have to go into any detail. The work's already been done for me.

Looks like JTK is still serving up roast for breakfast? Is that freshly prepared or just leftovers from last night?

I would like to see what model Sony LCD that he has... I've never heard of a 56" Sony LCD. Or any 56" LCD for that matter.

[Blu_J]

Originally Posted by darkloki

So because I own an HD DVD player it means that I have no Integrity? I don't quite follow you wanna go into more detail? Oh and I'm still sticking with the idea that you'd enjoy youself more if you just watched your Blu Ray films more and collected and built your Blu Ray Collection rather then focusing onto who is technically winning the war.

And there ya go, got yourself banned. I know, you don't care. Dude, you came in looking for a fight stuffing words into peoples mouths and thinking everyone was against you because you owned an HD player. Did you realize there are a number of "high-profile" members here that own an HD player as well. I'm sure we'll see ya over at THAT forum. Well, whatever, I don't care.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Blu_J

And there ya go, got yourself banned. I know, you don't care. Dude, you came in looking for a fight stuffing words into peoples mouths and thinking everyone was against you because you owned an HD player. Did you realize there are a number of "high-profile" members here that own an HD player as well. I'm sure we'll see ya over at THAT forum. Well, whatever, I don't care.

His posts from last night probably are what finished it. This is pretty tame today in contrast.

Anyways...now that nonsense is finally done, back to the actual subject of the thread:

I'm with the OP all the way: Seeing and hearing deliberate lies based off of absolutely no foundation gets quite irksome after a point, even on seemingly "trivial" subjects.

That's part of what this place is about: Get away from the lies. Counterprogram, expose, and destroy the lies.

[Blu Tiger]

Originally Posted by Blu_J

Did you realize there are a number of "high-profile" members here that own an HD player as well.

I do, but it's more of a paper weight. I'll never buy another HD DVD again. I'll wait for Universal's movie to be on blu.

There is a lot of ignorance out there though. I flew from Denver to Dallas this weekend to see a buddy of mine. He told me he's been telling people HD DVD would win because they have cheaper players. I informed him of blu-ray's superior specs, studio support, and how retailers are all starting to line up behind blu-ray. We talked for over an hour about it, and rest assured, he won't be misinforming anyone else.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by darkloki

So because I own an HD DVD player it means that I have no Integrity?

It's always suspicious when an comment about an HD DVD insider is taken PERSONALLY by a poster.

Jodi Sally says HD DVD is "the consumers' HD format of choice". That is an outright lie. No way to qualify that otherwise. Toshiba is LYING to consumers in their press releases now.

If the poster (now banned) had agreed with Jodi Sally, then yes, they would have no integrity.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by JTK

No, he's someone that hates deliberate lies.

BINGO!!!

[grognard66]

Originally Posted by JTK

No, he's someone that hates deliberate lies.

It's called having integrity. Look it up sometime.

Funny that you're so concerned about Toshiba's "lies" but don't have a problem with Sony's. Did you have a problem when Sony issued the fake news release saying Target was only carrying Blu-Ray this Holiday Season when in fact Target only signed an agreement with Sony for Blu-Ray endcaps in stores?

I have both formats (PS3 and 360 add-on) and think they both look and sound great on my somewhat modest setup. However, I prefer the features HD-DVD currently offers over Blu-Ray (dual-format, in-movie experience, etc.) which is why I have 4 Blu-Rays and 12 HD-DVD's. I'm just a gadget geek and am agnostic about the whole thing and can't fathom why some people see this as some epic battle between good and evil.

To be perfectly honest, I expect both formats to fail miserably as I suspect downloadable movie services will prevail over both of these formats in the long run.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by msallaq

wow JTK ur Awesome r u mod?

Nope.

Originally Posted by grognard66

Funny that you're so concerned about Toshiba's "lies" but don't have a problem with Sony's. Did you have a problem when Sony issued the fake news release saying Target was only carrying Blu-Ray this Holiday Season when in fact Target only signed an agreement with Sony for Blu-Ray endcaps in stores?

Any proof of this stuff?

I have both formats (PS3 and 360 add-on) and think they both look and sound great on my somewhat modest setup. However, I prefer the features HD-DVD currently offers over Blu-Ray (dual-format, in-movie experience, etc.) which is why I have 4 Blu-Rays and 12 HD-DVD's. I'm just a gadget geek and am agnostic about the whole thing and can't fathom why some people see this as some epic battle between good and evil.

Lurk around a while and maybe you'll learn something, although I don't think you'll see anyone here disagree with you about how good looking most of that stuff is all the way around.

To be perfectly honest, I expect both formats to fail miserably as I suspect downloadable movie services will prevail over both of these formats in the long run.

Very unlikely.

Until you get FIOS like setups up in the mountains and out in the boondocks and it costs a lot less than $50 on average...you can forget this.

[msallaq]

Originally Posted by grognard66

Funny that you're so concerned about Toshiba's "lies" but don't have a problem with Sony's. Did you have a problem when Sony issued the fake news release saying Target was only carrying Blu-Ray this Holiday Season when in fact Target only signed an agreement with Sony for Blu-Ray endcaps in stores?

I have both formats (PS3 and 360 add-on) and think they both look and sound great on my somewhat modest setup. However, I prefer the features HD-DVD currently offers over Blu-Ray (dual-format, in-movie experience, etc.) which is why I have 4 Blu-Rays and 12 HD-DVD's. I'm just a gadget geek and am agnostic about the whole thing and can't fathom why some people see this as some epic battle between good and evil.

To be perfectly honest, I expect both formats to fail miserably as I suspect downloadable movie services will prevail over both of these formats in the long run.

u need to go to ur shitty hd dvd forum i hope u get banned from here.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by msallaq

u need to go to ur shitty hd dvd forum i hope u get banned from here.

Hmmm...blunt yet to the point.

I like you.

[Xerious]

Originally Posted by grognard66

Funny that you're so concerned about Toshiba's "lies" but don't have a problem with Sony's. Did you have a problem when Sony issued the fake news release saying Target was only carrying Blu-Ray this Holiday Season when in fact Target only signed an agreement with Sony for Blu-Ray endcaps in stores?

I have both formats (PS3 and 360 add-on) and think they both look and sound great on my somewhat modest setup. However, I prefer the features HD-DVD currently offers over Blu-Ray (dual-format, in-movie experience, etc.) which is why I have 4 Blu-Rays and 12 HD-DVD's. I'm just a gadget geek and am agnostic about the whole thing and can't fathom why some people see this as some epic battle between good and evil.

To be perfectly honest, I expect both formats to fail miserably as I suspect downloadable movie services will prevail over both of these formats in the long run.

yeah... okay... good luck toting your xbox around everywhere... hopelly by the time you get to where you're going it wouldn't have RRoD on ya or have your disc drive funk out on ya.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by grognard66

Funny that you're so concerned about Toshiba's "lies" but don't have a problem with Sony's. Did you have a problem when Sony issued the fake news release saying Target was only carrying Blu-Ray this Holiday Season when in fact Target only signed an agreement with Sony for Blu-Ray endcaps in stores?

I have both formats (PS3 and 360 add-on) and think they both look and sound great on my somewhat modest setup. However, I prefer the features HD-DVD currently offers over Blu-Ray (dual-format, in-movie experience, etc.) which is why I have 4 Blu-Rays and 12 HD-DVD's. I'm just a gadget geek and am agnostic about the whole thing and can't fathom why some people see this as some epic battle between good and evil.

To be perfectly honest, I expect both formats to fail miserably as I suspect downloadable movie services will prevail over both of these formats in the long run.

lol, the highdefforum fools and HD DVD fanatics weren't joking when they said they'd invade blu-ray.com to start crapping. I would have expected a slightly better attempt though, this is pathetic.

[Josh]

Originally Posted by grognard66

To be perfectly honest, I expect both formats to fail miserably as I suspect downloadable movie services will prevail over both of these formats in the long run.

If you expect both formats to fail, why did you purchase them? Isn't that the same as cutting your arm off, knowing that you have nothing to gain and everything to lose?