Charade (1963) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

tylergfoster · 07-13-2013, 05:11 PM

I did not buy the disc but I looked at the back of it when I was in Best Buy and I can confirm that it has those same short, bland featurettes that they threw on tons of 100th Anniversary releases. I am also pretty certain that Universal borrowed Criterion's transfer back for that 100th AE DVd, which looked spectacular.

jasonjl · 07-13-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

I've got the Universal release of CHARADE. I'm afraid I can not offer a comparison to the Criterion version because I do not own it.

I can tell you that I think the Universal release looks very good indeed. To my eye, it looks much like the Criterion screen caps. Again, I don't have the Criterion version and I don't claim them to be the same...but my eyes can't discern an obvious difference just on those caps.

The disc shows some very mild edge enhancement but it's much less than most other Universal releases and not intrusive (and I'm very sensitive to EE). Moderate grain and excellent color are present.

If you don't already have the Criterion release, then I think this is a very pleasing alternative. I see no significant problems with the Universal disc.

Thanks! I guess I will get the Universal release then.

Jobla · 07-13-2013, 09:56 PM

The Criterion Blu-ray is currently priced at nineteen dollars and change at Barnes & Noble this month, due to the half-off of all Criterion titles sale.

animefan77 · 07-14-2013, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

Probably the same as the 100th Anniversary DVD:

Thanks for the pic. I was wondering what extras it had. I was thinking about picking it up for U&S but I love extras too much. I would rather pay little more and get the criterion edition for the audio commentary.

Dex Robinson · 07-16-2013, 02:45 PM

I'm a few days late but I just got around to double-checking something (don't worry, it's good news).

When I watched CHARADE, I didn't really pay attention to the sound format so I wasn't sure what to say when asked if it was lossless.

I looked at the package and was a bit disappointed to see it said Dolby Digital and even the disc art had Dolby Digital printed on the disc itself. But that seemed to be at odds with some things I'd read so I was confused.

However, I played the disc again last night and it is in fact DTS-HD Master Audio. If you go to the disc set-up menu, the audio shows as DTS-HD Master Audio complete with the DTS-HD MA logo. It showed up at DTS-HD MA on both the player and receiver display.

I guess Universal not only recycled the DVD extras, they recycled some of the DVD package art as well.

quickdraw · 07-16-2013, 02:53 PM

For $7.99 after U&S at BBY, purchasing the Universal disk is a no-brainer.

James Luckard · 07-16-2013, 04:40 PM

Has anyone compared the new Universal disc to the Criterion yet?

Same transfer?

May be at Best Buy today on my lunch hour and would definitely pick up the new disc for $7.99 with U&S if it's a new transfer.

quickdraw · 07-16-2013, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by James Luckard

Has anyone compared the new Universal disc to the Criterion yet?

Same transfer?

May be at Best Buy today on my lunch hour and would definitely pick up the new disc for $7.99 with U&S if it's a new transfer.

Post #36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

I've got the Universal release of CHARADE. I'm afraid I can not offer a comparison to the Criterion version because I do not own it.

I can tell you that I think the Universal release looks very good indeed. To my eye, it looks much like the Criterion screen caps. Again, I don't have the Criterion version and I don't claim them to be the same...but my eyes can't discern an obvious difference just on those caps.

The disc shows some very mild edge enhancement but it's much less than most other Universal releases and not intrusive (and I'm very sensitive to EE). Moderate grain and excellent color are present.

If you don't already have the Criterion release, then I think this is a very pleasing alternative. I see no significant problems with the Universal disc.

I don't have the Criterion blu, but the dvd version, so this is definitely an upgrade for me

James Luckard · 07-16-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

Post #36

Unfortunately that's someone specifically saying they don't have the Criterion BD, so they can't properly compare it.

I'm hoping to find a comparison by someone who has both and ideally posts caps.

James Luckard · 07-16-2013, 08:02 PM

Sounds like nobody has both. I may just pick up the new disc myself to check it, if it's identical I can always give it to a friend since it'll only cost $7.99.

Jobla · 07-16-2013, 11:57 PM

Thanks, that would be nice.

lilboyblu · 07-17-2013, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by James Luckard

Unfortunately that's someone specifically saying they don't have the Criterion BD, so they can't properly compare it.

I'm hoping to find a comparison by someone who has both and ideally posts caps.

There's a reviewer at Amazon with the new Universal Blu, the CC Blu, and two unspecified DVD versions. His opinion is that Universal Blu edges out the CC just slightly. Saying that is sacrilege around these parts, but I'm only relaying their opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B00COHGPNS/R2QHW3A3GVMTNR?cursor=3&sort=bySubmissionDateDesce nding

James Luckard · 07-17-2013, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lilboyblu

There's a reviewer at Amazon with the new Universal Blu, the CC Blu, and two unspecified DVD versions. His opinion is that Universal Blu edges out the CC just slightly. Saying that is sacrilege around these parts, but I'm only relaying their opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B00COHGPNS/R2QHW3A3GVMTNR?cursor=3&sort=bySubmissionDateDesce nding

Good to know. It's my favorite film of all time. I've owned countless versions. If there's even a reasonable chance this is not the same transfer and is in any way improved, I'm picking it up before the sale ends.

growler · 07-18-2013, 09:05 AM

I will attempt to get the Universal BD @ BBY with U&S. ($12.99-$5) Hope it is in stock in stores since Express Lane with U&S is YMMV.

VagueSimplicity · 07-18-2013, 09:46 PM

Picked this up today for $7.99 at BBY with U&S. =) I was pleasantly surprised to unexpectedly find this gem. I had no idea it came out.

jasonjl · 07-18-2013, 10:33 PM

Just watched it. Great transfer for a 50 year old and great movie.

quickdraw · 07-19-2013, 03:07 PM

I've watched about 1/3 of the movie to check out the quality of the release (will watch the movie this weekend) and am happy to say it looks pretty decent. I would say it looks pretty comparable to the dvdbeaver screen caps of the the Criterion blu-ray. I have the Criterion DVD version as well and the colors seem more balanced on this one. The audio is DTS-HD MA mono, but I feel it could have been tweaked a little better which is really the only knock on the disk. Although the transfer is not as strong as say, Breakfast at Tiffany's or some of the earlier Bonds, it is still a really strong Universal title and an easy recommendation considering its price point.

KilloWertz · 07-19-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by quickdraw

I've watched about 1/3 of the movie to check out the quality of the release (will watch the movie this weekend) and am happy to say it looks pretty decent. I would say it looks pretty comparable to the dvdbeaver screen caps of the the Criterion blu-ray. I have the Criterion DVD version as well and the colors seem more balanced on this one. The audio is DTS-HD MA mono, but I feel it could have been tweaked a little better which is really the only knock on the disk. Although the transfer is not as strong as say, Breakfast at Tiffany's or some of the earlier Bonds, it is still a really strong Universal title and an easy recommendation considering its price point.

I'm glad to see it's a solid release PQ wise for people who never got the Criterion release. Hopefully this means it will get even just a slightly wider audience on Blu-ray now. Charade definitely deserves it.

Whether it's true or not that the Universal edges out the Criterion release ever so slightly, I'm just going to stick with my Criterion release. I'm not being a Criterion fanboy or anything. I love the film, but I just don't care to buy it over again. I also doubt it includes any special features since the commentary is a Criterion exclusive.

I realize this post is kind of divided between positive and negative. In the end, it's good that it's getting another release. I was just stating reasons why I won't be getting it.

blu-ray_girl_fan · 07-19-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KilloWertz

I also doubt it includes any special features since the commentary is a Criterion exclusive.

As has been stated in this thread, the disc includes a featurette about Carl Laemmle, a featurette about Lew Wasserman, and a trailer.

KilloWertz · 07-19-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

As has been stated in this thread, the disc includes a featurette about Carl Laemmle, a featurette about Lew Wasserman, and a trailer.

Sorry. I haven't read a whole lot about the Universal release in here.

07-13-2013, 05:11 PM	#41
tylergfoster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:889 Blu-ray collection:4456 DVD collection:1148 MA collection:2163 Digital collection:1725 iTunes collection:50 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:249	I did not buy the disc but I looked at the back of it when I was in Best Buy and I can confirm that it has those same short, bland featurettes that they threw on tons of 100th Anniversary releases. I am also pretty certain that Universal borrowed Criterion's transfer back for that 100th AE DVd, which looked spectacular.

07-13-2013, 09:56 PM	#43
Jobla Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Boulevard of Broken Dreams	The Criterion Blu-ray is currently priced at nineteen dollars and change at Barnes & Noble this month, due to the half-off of all Criterion titles sale.

07-16-2013, 02:45 PM	#45
Dex Robinson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Winnipeg, Canada Trading Score:1	I'm a few days late but I just got around to double-checking something (don't worry, it's good news). When I watched CHARADE, I didn't really pay attention to the sound format so I wasn't sure what to say when asked if it was lossless. I looked at the package and was a bit disappointed to see it said Dolby Digital and even the disc art had Dolby Digital printed on the disc itself. But that seemed to be at odds with some things I'd read so I was confused. However, I played the disc again last night and it is in fact DTS-HD Master Audio. If you go to the disc set-up menu, the audio shows as DTS-HD Master Audio complete with the DTS-HD MA logo. It showed up at DTS-HD MA on both the player and receiver display. I guess Universal not only recycled the DVD extras, they recycled some of the DVD package art as well.

07-16-2013, 02:53 PM	#46
quickdraw Special Member Member since:Oct 2012 Location:Northern California Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:1	For $7.99 after U&S at BBY, purchasing the Universal disk is a no-brainer.

07-16-2013, 04:40 PM	#47
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:397 Blu-ray collection:1807 Blu-ray reviews: 34	Has anyone compared the new Universal disc to the Criterion yet? Same transfer? May be at Best Buy today on my lunch hour and would definitely pick up the new disc for $7.99 with U&S if it's a new transfer.

07-16-2013, 08:02 PM	#50
James Luckard Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:397 Blu-ray collection:1807 Blu-ray reviews: 34	Sounds like nobody has both. I may just pick up the new disc myself to check it, if it's identical I can always give it to a friend since it'll only cost $7.99.

07-16-2013, 11:57 PM	#51
Jobla Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Boulevard of Broken Dreams	Thanks, that would be nice.

07-18-2013, 09:05 AM	#54
growler Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2009 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:1735 DVD collection:250 Trading Score:38	I will attempt to get the Universal BD @ BBY with U&S. ($12.99-$5) Hope it is in stock in stores since Express Lane with U&S is YMMV.

07-18-2013, 09:46 PM	#55
VagueSimplicity Senior Member Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Texas 4K collection:386 Blu-ray collection:2177 DVD collection:113 iTunes collection:281 Blu-ray reviews:3	Picked this up today for $7.99 at BBY with U&S. =) I was pleasantly surprised to unexpectedly find this gem. I had no idea it came out.

07-18-2013, 10:33 PM	#56
jasonjl Special Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Burbank, LA, CA Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:22 Blu-ray collection:545 DVD collection:37 Digital collection:16 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:90	Just watched it. Great transfer for a 50 year old and great movie.

07-19-2013, 03:07 PM	#57
quickdraw Special Member Member since:Oct 2012 Location:Northern California Blu-ray reviews: 7 Trading Score:1	I've watched about 1/3 of the movie to check out the quality of the release (will watch the movie this weekend) and am happy to say it looks pretty decent. I would say it looks pretty comparable to the dvdbeaver screen caps of the the Criterion blu-ray. I have the Criterion DVD version as well and the colors seem more balanced on this one. The audio is DTS-HD MA mono, but I feel it could have been tweaked a little better which is really the only knock on the disk. Although the transfer is not as strong as say, Breakfast at Tiffany's or some of the earlier Bonds, it is still a really strong Universal title and an easy recommendation considering its price point.

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