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gvortex7 · 09-24-2007, 12:17 AM

Hey crackinhedz, have you checked on the Ebay auction I showed you earlier? It is at around $660 right now with 50 minutes to go, the unit is sealed brand new and the shipping for it is $38. Not a bad deal.

Here it is again:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Pionee...QQcmdZViewItem

crackinhedz · 09-24-2007, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvortex7

Hey crackinhedz, have you checked on the Ebay auction I showed you earlier? It is at around $660 right now with 50 minutes to go, the unit is sealed brand new and the shipping for it is $38. Not a bad deal.

Here it is again:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Pionee...QQcmdZViewItem

Yeah, that would be a great price for a new Pioneer! unfortunately I won a Monster 5100 Power Conditioner yesterday, so my funding is a little low right now.

kamiller42 · 09-25-2007, 04:17 AM

Don't stone me, but other than wattage, what are the differences between the Pioneer VSX-91TXH and the Onkyo 605? Both are receivers with HDMI 1.3 ports and support lossless audio. Something more?

gvortex7 · 09-25-2007, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamiller42

Don't stone me, but other than wattage, what are the differences between the Pioneer VSX-91TXH and the Onkyo 605? Both are receivers with HDMI 1.3 ports and support lossless audio. Something more?

Sound quality, number of proprietary built-in features and build quality.

Jim L · 09-29-2007, 12:04 PM

I've been reading up on the Pioneers and I really like what I see so far. I've never owned an Elite receiver (just regular Pioneer line). In higher end receivers I've had a Sony ES and now a Denon.

Here are a few things I want to know that I can't find on their site/owner's manual:

Do the speaker terminals allow standard "push-in" banana plugs?
On the remote - Is it backlit? Does it do macros? Does the display interact with the receiver?
How long does the auto-calibrate function take?
Do the reciever's on-screen displays (setup menus, etc.) show through your HDMI-connected display?
How good are the custom soundfields? I like to use the concert hall and stadium settings on my Denon for different types of material.
Are the inputs renameable?

Everything I've know about it so far is making me lean in the Pioneer direction. I don't necessarily like the looks of the Onkyo, and I feel that it may be a cheaper build quality and not as reliable.

MATTYBLU2 · 09-29-2007, 01:42 PM

hey all, i am in a real battle deciding if i want an onkyo receiver again or go for a pioneer elite this time. i have been comparing the onkyo 705 model to the elite 91 model. what i wanted to know is if i am going out to get e 1080 tv and a bluray player, does the 1080p upscaling on the higher end models worth the extra money? i mean does the upscaling work well on sd dvd's vs BD dvd's?

i have seen upscaling, upconversion and pass through. not sure what the difference is with the 3 and if i am able to enjoy the BD movies with out dropping a ton of money on the high end models that do upscaling?

any help or info would be appreciated. thanks

MATTYBLU2 · 10-01-2007, 11:32 PM

Hey all, well i purchased a pioneer elite 91 HT receiver today, brand new sealed from the factory for $694.00 shipped. i think that is a pretty good deal do you? i noticed that most of them are going for like $1000-$1200 at most stores and online.

also scored on a brand new panny 10a player today as well for $500 shipped with the free 5 movies in the box. thought that was a good deal also.

just wanted to share the good news. all thats left is the 1080p tv to buy.

oh the choices are so hard????

bdrex28 · 10-01-2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MATTYBLU2

Hey all, well i purchased a pioneer elite 91 HT receiver today, brand new sealed from the factory for $694.00 shipped. i think that is a pretty good deal do you? i noticed that most of them are going for like $1000-$1200 at most stores and online.

also scored on a brand new panny 10a player today as well for $500 shipped with the free 5 movies in the box. thought that was a good deal also.

just wanted to share the good news. all thats left is the 1080p tv to buy.

oh the choices are so hard????

Wow, how'd you get the elite 91 for 694$?

As for tv's: 60A3000 from Sony. It's outstanding.

MATTYBLU2 · 10-01-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdrex28

Wow, how'd you get the elite 91 for 694$?

As for tv's: 60A3000 from Sony. It's outstanding.

ya i am considering that tv as well as a panny plasma

got it actually for $645, but shipping is high. scored it in ebay.

bdrex28 · 10-02-2007, 12:21 AM

congrats , good price.

I'm hoping to get a 2nd system for an upstairs living room/rec room. Not sure what though. Thinking about that new Samsung that is just out.

MATTYBLU2 · 10-02-2007, 04:44 AM

hey all, does anyone know which model the pioneer elite 91 model would compare to in the onkyo model? i was thinking the 705, but it might be the 805. let me know what you think, thanks

MATTYBLU2 · 10-02-2007, 04:52 AM

also i wanted to know some opinions. if you had to buy either the pioneer elite 91 or the onlyo 705, which model would you pick and why?

sokrman14 · 10-02-2007, 04:56 AM

Hands down the Elite for me. They really are superior products to Onkyo. The Integra line from Onkyo is more comparable. Elite actually hands picks all of their parts for their products. If its not of standard it gets recycled. Onkyo is a good deal, but definitely not the better of the two.

MATTYBLU2 · 10-02-2007, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sokrman14

Hands down the Elite for me. They really are superior products to Onkyo. The Integra line from Onkyo is more comparable. Elite actually hands picks all of their parts for their products. If its not of standard it gets recycled. Onkyo is a good deal, but definitely not the better of the two.

ya i was thinking the same thing. i have had 2 onkyo's in the past and loved them. this time i went out on a limb and bought the elite model 91. i have not received it yet, but am hoping its easy to set up and work. i am so use to my onkyo that i know it by heart. sometimes change is go though.

sokrman14 · 10-02-2007, 06:32 AM

I just set up my dad's vsx94txh and it was not too bad. It took me a couple of hours but he has like 6 sources being connected, and I went through Audio and Video functions. It was fun for me, and it wasnt very difficult. He doesnt have a bluray player yet, so i didnt get to check out the new audio formats, but it still sounds great.

crunchywyte · 10-03-2007, 03:51 AM

Thanks for all the input, what about the Pioneer Elite VSX-92TXH vs. the 805....?

MATTYBLU2 · 10-03-2007, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdrex28

Wow, how'd you get the elite 91 for 694$?

As for tv's: 60A3000 from Sony. It's outstanding.

hey, incase anyone is looking for one of these receivers, i won it on ebay. here is another one on auction from the same seller. auction number 230177811406.

check it out. its the cheapest on ebay so far that i found. i ended up winning the bid at $645.00.

crunchywyte · 10-03-2007, 06:42 PM

does it really matter that the

Onkyo 805 has/is

1. .05% THD
2. THX Ultra 2 Certified

VS.
The Pioneer Elite 92THX has/is
1. 09% THD
2. THX Select 2 Certified

MacDaddyOJack · 10-03-2007, 06:47 PM

Of course it does! In addition to the numbers generated by engineers and pencil pushers, the Onkyo has better warmth and tonal balance overall. I try to steer clear of any Pioneer audio products.

Luis_A51 · 10-03-2007, 06:58 PM

I would say Pioneer since Onkyo sold their soul to HDDVD and pioneer is a member of the BDA.

Besides that, listen to it yourself and decide, but format war aside id still go with Pioneer.

09-29-2007, 12:04 PM	#45
Jim L Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2006 Location:Myrtle Beach, SC Blu-ray reviews: 12 Trading Score:20	More Questions for Pioneer 91/92 Owners . . . I've been reading up on the Pioneers and I really like what I see so far. I've never owned an Elite receiver (just regular Pioneer line). In higher end receivers I've had a Sony ES and now a Denon. Here are a few things I want to know that I can't find on their site/owner's manual: Do the speaker terminals allow standard "push-in" banana plugs? On the remote - Is it backlit? Does it do macros? Does the display interact with the receiver? How long does the auto-calibrate function take? Do the reciever's on-screen displays (setup menus, etc.) show through your HDMI-connected display? How good are the custom soundfields? I like to use the concert hall and stadium settings on my Denon for different types of material. Are the inputs renameable? Everything I've know about it so far is making me lean in the Pioneer direction. I don't necessarily like the looks of the Onkyo, and I feel that it may be a cheaper build quality and not as reliable. Last edited by Jim L; 09-29-2007 at 01:58 PM.

10-02-2007, 04:44 AM	#51
MATTYBLU2 Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:NH Blu-ray collection:60 Trading Score:21	Elite 91 Compared To ? hey all, does anyone know which model the pioneer elite 91 model would compare to in the onkyo model? i was thinking the 705, but it might be the 805. let me know what you think, thanks

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09-24-2007, 12:17 AM	#41
gvortex7 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Fort Lauderdale, FL Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:105	Hey crackinhedz, have you checked on the Ebay auction I showed you earlier? It is at around $660 right now with 50 minutes to go, the unit is sealed brand new and the shipping for it is $38. Not a bad deal. Here it is again: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Pionee...QQcmdZViewItem

09-25-2007, 04:17 AM	#43
kamiller42 Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	Don't stone me, but other than wattage, what are the differences between the Pioneer VSX-91TXH and the Onkyo 605? Both are receivers with HDMI 1.3 ports and support lossless audio. Something more?

09-29-2007, 01:42 PM	#46
MATTYBLU2 Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:NH Blu-ray collection:60 Trading Score:21	hey all, i am in a real battle deciding if i want an onkyo receiver again or go for a pioneer elite this time. i have been comparing the onkyo 705 model to the elite 91 model. what i wanted to know is if i am going out to get e 1080 tv and a bluray player, does the 1080p upscaling on the higher end models worth the extra money? i mean does the upscaling work well on sd dvd's vs BD dvd's? i have seen upscaling, upconversion and pass through. not sure what the difference is with the 3 and if i am able to enjoy the BD movies with out dropping a ton of money on the high end models that do upscaling? any help or info would be appreciated. thanks

10-01-2007, 11:32 PM	#47
MATTYBLU2 Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:NH Blu-ray collection:60 Trading Score:21	Hey all, well i purchased a pioneer elite 91 HT receiver today, brand new sealed from the factory for $694.00 shipped. i think that is a pretty good deal do you? i noticed that most of them are going for like $1000-$1200 at most stores and online. also scored on a brand new panny 10a player today as well for $500 shipped with the free 5 movies in the box. thought that was a good deal also. just wanted to share the good news. all thats left is the 1080p tv to buy. oh the choices are so hard????

10-02-2007, 12:21 AM	#50
bdrex28 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Edmond, OK Blu-ray reviews:4	congrats , good price. I'm hoping to get a 2nd system for an upstairs living room/rec room. Not sure what though. Thinking about that new Samsung that is just out.

10-02-2007, 04:52 AM	#52
MATTYBLU2 Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:NH Blu-ray collection:60 Trading Score:21	also i wanted to know some opinions. if you had to buy either the pioneer elite 91 or the onlyo 705, which model would you pick and why?

10-02-2007, 04:56 AM	#53
sokrman14 Special Member Member since:Mar 2006 Location:Omaha, NE Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:32 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Hands down the Elite for me. They really are superior products to Onkyo. The Integra line from Onkyo is more comparable. Elite actually hands picks all of their parts for their products. If its not of standard it gets recycled. Onkyo is a good deal, but definitely not the better of the two.

10-02-2007, 06:32 AM	#55
sokrman14 Special Member Member since:Mar 2006 Location:Omaha, NE Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:32 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I just set up my dad's vsx94txh and it was not too bad. It took me a couple of hours but he has like 6 sources being connected, and I went through Audio and Video functions. It was fun for me, and it wasnt very difficult. He doesnt have a bluray player yet, so i didnt get to check out the new audio formats, but it still sounds great.

10-03-2007, 03:51 AM	#56
crunchywyte Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Jacksonville, FL Blu-ray collection:64 Blu-ray reviews:16	Thanks for all the input, what about the Pioneer Elite VSX-92TXH vs. the 805....?

10-03-2007, 06:42 PM	#58
crunchywyte Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Jacksonville, FL Blu-ray collection:64 Blu-ray reviews:16	does it really matter that the Onkyo 805 has/is 1. .05% THD 2. THX Ultra 2 Certified VS. The Pioneer Elite 92THX has/is 1. 09% THD 2. THX Select 2 Certified

10-03-2007, 06:47 PM	#59
MacDaddyOJack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Richmond, VA PSNetwork: MacDaddyOJack Trophy Level: 12(4%) Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	Of course it does! In addition to the numbers generated by engineers and pencil pushers, the Onkyo has better warmth and tonal balance overall. I try to steer clear of any Pioneer audio products.

10-03-2007, 06:58 PM	#60
Luis_A51 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Blu-ray reviews:4	I would say Pioneer since Onkyo sold their soul to HDDVD and pioneer is a member of the BDA. Besides that, listen to it yourself and decide, but format war aside id still go with Pioneer.

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