Pioneer BDP-320 Versus Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD - Blu-ray Forum

stick99 · 07-19-2009, 10:31 PM

So since Sharp will be making Pioneer dvd and I assume Blu-ray players soon, I thought I'd treat myself to a new Pioneer Blu-ray that's out now. However after reading that there was no difference between the Pioneer BDP-51 and the Pioneer Elite BDP-05, I want to be cautious. In Canada it's like a $250-300 difference, and I hope to the Gods it's not just because one says Elite. Anyone with anymore info would be a incredible help.

pacificvibes · 07-19-2009, 10:45 PM

your title lists different model numbers than the ones you are talking about

scweb13 · 07-20-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pacificvibes

your title lists different model numbers than the ones you are talking about

I think he's saying that in the past, the review for the older models said that there was no real difference between the Elite and non-Elite models. He want's to know if it's the same for the new models.

stick99 · 07-20-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scweb13

I think he's saying that in the past, the review for the older models said that there was no real difference between the Elite and non-Elite models. He want's to know if it's the same for the new models.

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. I just don't want to invest in the newest Pioneer elite product only to find I could have spent 200-300 less and got the same machine without the word ELITE.

HD Man · 07-20-2009, 03:29 PM

There are reports from people over at AVS that BB is closing out the Pioneer for $149 NIB and anywhere from $99-129 for open box units. That is a great price for a player that is almost identical to the 05 Elite model.

The only downside is that the 51 is slow loading BR's, and is not a profile 2.0 BD-Live compatible player, it that is important to you. I also believe the 320 and 23 aren't much quicker when it comes to load times.

I have both a Pioneer 51 and a 05 and boy do they do have outstanding PQ/AQ.

wafi · 07-20-2009, 04:40 PM

I have both the 320 and 51 and love both of them. PQ is awesome!

darrell · 08-03-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stick99

So since Sharp will be making Pioneer dvd and I assume Blu-ray players soon, I thought I'd treat myself to a new Pioneer Blu-ray that's out now. However after reading that there was no difference between the Pioneer BDP-51 and the Pioneer Elite BDP-05, I want to be cautious. In Canada it's like a $250-300 difference, and I hope to the Gods it's not just because one says Elite. Anyone with anymore info would be a incredible help.

I had a Pioneer DVD player that I really loved but I'm not that impressed with their Blu-Ray players. If I replaced my current Panasonic player I would be looking at LG (fast load times) Panasonic (I like Panasonic) or maybe Sony.

iontyre · 08-03-2009, 07:06 PM

It looks like most of your answers are not talking about the 320 vs 23fd. The 23fd is superior in workmanship and warranty, and includes some slightly more robust components. I have the 320 and can tell you it impresses me in its build quality compared to the other manufacturers in this price range (~$300). I am perfectly satisfied and don't worry about not getting the 23fd.

Zman2k2 · 08-03-2009, 08:02 PM

I noticed today that BB in Canada has the 320 on for $400. I was wondering how the load times are on it. Right now I have the 51FD, so any increase in speed would be appreciated.

pmardis2 · 08-04-2009, 04:42 PM

What is the PQ/AQ differences between the BDP-320/120/051? That is the main QUESTION.

edubb5 · 08-04-2009, 04:50 PM

Just got the Elite 23fd and I love it! MY PS3 is going up on ebay.. This thing look SEXY. Load times are Fast and it Look dope on my Pioneer pro 111fd

cembros · 08-04-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by edubb5

Just got the Elite 23fd and I love it! MY PS3 is going up on ebay.. This thing look SEXY. Load times are Fast and it Look dope on my Pioneer pro 111fd

how well do movie menues function, i was messing with the player at best buy and the menues were slow and sloppy but that was without the firmware update

pmardis2 · 08-03-2009, 09:35 PM

Is the BDP-320 similiar to the BD-23FD, What about the BDP-320 and BDP-120? I'm considering the BDP-320 to replace my Sony BDP-S1. Neither of the Pioneer players can play SADC's RIGHT?

iontyre · 08-04-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by pmardis2

Is the BDP-320 similiar to the BD-23FD, What about the BDP-320 and BDP-120? I'm considering the BDP-320 to replace my Sony BDP-S1. Neither of the Pioneer players can play SADC's RIGHT?

Yes, the 23fd is very similar to the 320, just a bit more robust build quality. The BDP-120 appears to be just a rebadged Sharp, I would stay away from that one.

BaronVH · 08-04-2009, 01:58 PM

I have to say that I have never had issue one with anything with the word "Elite" on it other than the occasional firmware update on a Blu-ray player. I think if you are a casual viewer, then the 320 is fine. Home theater is a hobby/disease for me, and I don't mind paying the extra money for the very modest additions with the Elite and the higher build quality. That being said, these are slow loading players and do not play SACDs. I already have a DVD player that plays SACDs so the lack of that feature do not matter to me, and most people don't even know what a SACD is. I have a 23 on order that I should get today, and I will post my reactions. I just recently moved, so I have to pack up my system plus other rooms. I have a Pionner Elite DVD player and a non-Elite DVD player. I have never had them disconnected at the same time until now, and you can immediately tell the difference in build quality in the Elite. For many people, it might not be worth the extra cash.

Miamioutlaw04 · 08-04-2009, 05:27 PM

Hi guys I purchased the 23fd two days ago and so far I am enjoying it . Picture quality is superb , CDs sound great and it upscales very good . Set up was easy and it has nice guide that uses good graphics . The only thing is it doesn't load extremly fast and once it does load there is like a two second blackout before it begins to play .( I think that only occured with blu rays ,a minor annoyance). Also remote is not lit . But if you are using a universal that is then who cares about that . Anyways I like it love it possibly , but like a women I can't say I love her yet it's to early . We began our relationship only two days ago (creepy comparison).

07-19-2009, 10:31 PM	#1
stick99 Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Canada Home Theater Gallery:26	Pioneer BDP-320 Versus Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD So since Sharp will be making Pioneer dvd and I assume Blu-ray players soon, I thought I'd treat myself to a new Pioneer Blu-ray that's out now. However after reading that there was no difference between the Pioneer BDP-51 and the Pioneer Elite BDP-05, I want to be cautious. In Canada it's like a $250-300 difference, and I hope to the Gods it's not just because one says Elite. Anyone with anymore info would be a incredible help.

08-03-2009, 09:35 PM	#13
pmardis2 Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	Pioneer BDP-320 Versus Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD Is the BDP-320 similiar to the BD-23FD, What about the BDP-320 and BDP-120? I'm considering the BDP-320 to replace my Sony BDP-S1. Neither of the Pioneer players can play SADC's RIGHT?

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07-19-2009, 10:45 PM	#2
pacificvibes Tattoo King Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Irvine, CA PSN ID WinterShrinkage Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:51 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	your title lists different model numbers than the ones you are talking about

07-20-2009, 03:29 PM	#5
HD Man Senior Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Wash, DC area Blu-ray collection:253 Trading Score:2	There are reports from people over at AVS that BB is closing out the Pioneer for $149 NIB and anywhere from $99-129 for open box units. That is a great price for a player that is almost identical to the 05 Elite model. The only downside is that the 51 is slow loading BR's, and is not a profile 2.0 BD-Live compatible player, it that is important to you. I also believe the 320 and 23 aren't much quicker when it comes to load times. I have both a Pioneer 51 and a 05 and boy do they do have outstanding PQ/AQ.

07-20-2009, 04:40 PM	#6
wafi Power Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:along the beltway Home Theater Gallery:26 Blu-ray collection:384 Blu-ray reviews: 11 Trading Score:4	I have both the 320 and 51 and love both of them. PQ is awesome!

08-03-2009, 07:06 PM	#8
iontyre Member Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:54 Blu-ray collection:310 Blu-ray reviews:3	It looks like most of your answers are not talking about the 320 vs 23fd. The 23fd is superior in workmanship and warranty, and includes some slightly more robust components. I have the 320 and can tell you it impresses me in its build quality compared to the other manufacturers in this price range (~$300). I am perfectly satisfied and don't worry about not getting the 23fd.

08-03-2009, 08:02 PM	#9
Zman2k2 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Calgary, Canada Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:136 Trading Score:54	I noticed today that BB in Canada has the 320 on for $400. I was wondering how the load times are on it. Right now I have the 51FD, so any increase in speed would be appreciated.

08-04-2009, 04:42 PM	#10
pmardis2 Junior Member Member since:Jul 2007	What is the PQ/AQ differences between the BDP-320/120/051? That is the main QUESTION.

08-04-2009, 04:50 PM	#11
edubb5 Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:LEXINGTON KY Home Theater Gallery:24	Just got the Elite 23fd and I love it! MY PS3 is going up on ebay.. This thing look SEXY. Load times are Fast and it Look dope on my Pioneer pro 111fd

08-04-2009, 01:58 PM	#15
BaronVH Power Member Member since:Oct 2007	I have to say that I have never had issue one with anything with the word "Elite" on it other than the occasional firmware update on a Blu-ray player. I think if you are a casual viewer, then the 320 is fine. Home theater is a hobby/disease for me, and I don't mind paying the extra money for the very modest additions with the Elite and the higher build quality. That being said, these are slow loading players and do not play SACDs. I already have a DVD player that plays SACDs so the lack of that feature do not matter to me, and most people don't even know what a SACD is. I have a 23 on order that I should get today, and I will post my reactions. I just recently moved, so I have to pack up my system plus other rooms. I have a Pionner Elite DVD player and a non-Elite DVD player. I have never had them disconnected at the same time until now, and you can immediately tell the difference in build quality in the Elite. For many people, it might not be worth the extra cash.

08-04-2009, 05:27 PM	#16
Miamioutlaw04 New Member Member since:Aug 2009	Hi guys I purchased the 23fd two days ago and so far I am enjoying it . Picture quality is superb , CDs sound great and it upscales very good . Set up was easy and it has nice guide that uses good graphics . The only thing is it doesn't load extremly fast and once it does load there is like a two second blackout before it begins to play .( I think that only occured with blu rays ,a minor annoyance). Also remote is not lit . But if you are using a universal that is then who cares about that . Anyways I like it love it possibly , but like a women I can't say I love her yet it's to early . We began our relationship only two days ago (creepy comparison).

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