Torchwood: Miracle Day

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah we were discussing the name in the Doctor Who thread as it's a very unusual name even for a Britain I must say. Sounds better once you learn how to pronounce/say it correctly but the spelling of it makes it seem strange and a very odd name to say the least especially for a girl.

It's a girl's name?!?!

Reading it makes me think of a child with a speech impediment trying to say Aaron.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by SpaceDog

I do hope Miracle Day leaves the door open for more Torchwood adventures with Jack & Gwen. The serial nature of both Children of Earth & Miracle Day make it more difficult, as they'll never be able to go back to a series of one offs.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone on the US side of the cast is expendable. US actors have trouble coming back to a series after it's been gone for 18 months or 5 years, but brits don't seem to have that trouble.

Yeah plus I have a feeling that

[Show spoiler]most of the US characters will end up dead by the end of the season and we are left with just Jack, Gwen and Rhys again.

We can go back to an alien of the week type series depending on how Miracle Day ends as the

[Show spoiler] tower has been rebuilt as we learned in the first episode of Miracle Day and they can once again reopen Torchwood after building a new hub. All depends of what RTD wants to do though and how Miracle Day ends.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

It's a girl's name?!?!

Reading it makes me think of a child with a speech impediment trying to say Aaron.

Yeah the baby's a girl. Yeah it does sound like someone trying to say the name Aaron. Sounds a lot better then how it looks from the brief moment they said her name in the first episode.

[SpaceDog]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah plus I have a feeling that

[Show spoiler]most of the US characters will end up dead by the end of the season and we are left with just Jack, Gwen and Rhys again.

We can go back to an alien of the week type series depending on how Miracle Day ends as the

[Show spoiler] tower has been rebuilt as we learned in the first episode of Miracle Day and they can once again reopen Torchwood after building a new hub. All depends of what RTD wants to do though and how Miracle Day ends.

The only problem I forsee is that BBC won't want to take on Torchwood again without a US partner, and a US partner might mandate a US base. I don't mind seeing Torchwood as a global organization, but I still see them as based out of Wales.

My perspective on the alien of the week thing has more to do with expectations than capabilities. It seems easy to me to go from alien of the week to self contained serial, but a bit harder to make the return. I'll be happy to take Torchwood in either flavor, though.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by SpaceDog

The only problem I forsee is that BBC won't want to take on Torchwood again without a US partner, and a US partner might mandate a US base. I don't mind seeing Torchwood as a global organization, but I still see them as based out of Wales.

Yeah we'll just have to see how good Miracle Day does for Starz. I posted the ratings in the Doctor Who thread but it did as good as Camelot's first episode did so that's good as long as it doesn't drop. I'm thinking that if Starz doesn't want a 5th season and it does really good in the UK we may see BBCA taking over again to give us a 5th season.

If Starz wants another run I do see them staying in the US though but I'm hoping a 5th season would give us half US and half UK.

'Torchwood: Miracle Day' Premieres as Well as 'Camelot'

haven’t seen any demo info yet, but the premiere of Torchwood: Miracle Day was on par with the premiere of Camelot. The good news is that Camelot was Starz’ highest-rated original series premiere to date. The bad news is Camelot was, you know, canceled. It’s the future numbers that will tell the tale of how Starz feels about Torchwood. All the caveats of “it doesn’t include On Demand or Internet viewing” apply, but they applied with Camelot as well, and neither Camelot or Torchwood: Miracle Day was available immediately on Netflix.

Here’s the info via Starz:

“Torchwood: Miracle Day’s” post-holiday weekend premiere on July 8 delivered a combined Friday night audience of 1.51 million viewers P2+; 819K viewers for Friday at 10PM ET/PT (1.9 Live + SD HH Rating) and 687K for 11pm ET/PT (1.4 Live + SD HH Rating).

Total weekend viewership (Friday airings + Sunday 10PM ET/PT and 1AM ET/PT airings) was 2 million viewers P2+, Live + SD (1.96M).

The performance of “Torchwood: Miracle Day” was at parity with the network’s April debut of “Camelot” (1.57M viewers Friday night/2.087 weekend million – both P2+, Live +SD), Starz highest-rated original series premiere to date.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...camelot/97673/

[WyldeMan45]

Detective I just decided to turn your posts into a drinking game, every time you begin a post with 'Yeah' I drink. Your last five 5 of 6 posts in this thread just gave me a buzz.

[WyldeMan45]

Doesn't look like they will keep Torchwood on starz if they continue on like this, and they hyped the shit out of it for quite some time.

Ratings: Was Torchwood's Return Miraculous?

Starz’ much-hyped premiere of Torchwood: Miracle Day got off to a decent start on Friday, drawing 819K viewers at 10 pm. With the 11 pm replay factored in, the debut drew a total of 1.51 million viewers.

Those numbers are on par with the network’s April launch of the now-canceled Camelot, but below the 1.1 million (and 1.9 cume) that tuned in for the premiere of Spartacus: Gods of the Arena last January.

[SpaceDog]

Originally Posted by detective392

Yeah we'll just have to see how good Miracle Day does for Starz. I posted the ratings in the Doctor Who thread but it did as good as Camelot's first episode did so that's good as long as it doesn't drop. I'm thinking that if Starz doesn't want a 5th season and it does really good in the UK we may see BBCA taking over again to give us a 5th season.

If Starz wants another run I do see them staying in the US though but I'm hoping a 5th season would give us half US and half UK.

'Torchwood: Miracle Day' Premieres as Well as 'Camelot'

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...camelot/97673/

Yeah, I wonder if the lack of netflix replays actually hurts in any way. You wouldn't think so, but if someone has Starz without on-Demand and Netflix...

[SpaceDog]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Doesn't look like they will keep Torchwood on starz if they continue on like this, and they hyped the shit out of it for quite some time.

Ratings: Was Torchwood's Return Miraculous?

Yeah, Torchwood needs more butt-nekkid gladiators.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Detective I just decided to turn your posts into a drinking game, every time you begin a post with 'Yeah' I drink. Your last five 5 of 6 posts in this thread just gave me a buzz.

Wow just noticed that and I think I actually start all my posts that way actually

[detective392]

Originally Posted by SpaceDog

Yeah, Torchwood needs more butt-nekkid gladiators.

Torchwood never really seemed like a smart fit for Starz really IMO. I mean Starz's #1 show is about gladiators killing, sex. blood, swearing while Torchwood is a sci-fi drama. Not really any connections in fanbase and most of Starz's shows/movies seem to fit more with Spartacus then the Torchwood fanbase.

Now it's just up to the UK and with news that ratings could hurt due to most UK fans downloading the show I'm hoping ratings are good enough that BBC will want another Torchwood season.

[SpaceDog]

Originally Posted by detective392

Torchwood never really seemed like a smart fit for Starz really IMO. I mean Starz's #1 show is about gladiators killing, sex. blood, swearing while Torchwood is a sci-fi drama. Not really any connections in fanbase and most of Starz's shows/movies seem to fit more with Spartacus then the Torchwood fanbase.

While I don't disagree - I like the idea of Torchwood being on pay cable - so they don't feel compelled to hold back anything for "broadcast considerations". HBO certainly doesn't do "leftovers", and Showtime excised Sci-fi a long time ago (to the detriment of Dead Like Me and Odyssey 5). That leaves Starz.

It would be great if they succeeded enough with Torchwood to do more adult sci-fi.

[SpaceDog]

Originally Posted by detective392

Now it's just up to the UK and with news that ratings could hurt due to most UK fans downloading the show I'm hoping ratings are good enough that BBC will want another Torchwood season.

If British Torchwood fans are wise, they'll tune in even if they've already downloaded. Of course "smart" isn't always the way of things. I've seen plenty of people here complain that they should count Torrenting because their favorite show is cancelled or in danger of being cancelled.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by SpaceDog

While I don't disagree - I like the idea of Torchwood being on pay cable - so they don't feel compelled to hold back anything for "broadcast considerations". HBO certainly doesn't do "leftovers", and Showtime excised Sci-fi a long time ago (to the detriment of Dead Like Me and Odyssey 5). That leaves Starz.

It would be great if they succeeded enough with Torchwood to do more adult sci-fi.

Yeah I'm happy it's on Starz and like you said I also don't feel HBO or Showtime would have been a good fit either I just hope Starz understands this is a different genre that what Starz subscribers are used to and already a show into it's 4th season into consideration.

Originally Posted by SpaceDog

If British Torchwood fans are wise, they'll tune in even if they've already downloaded. Of course "smart" isn't always the way of things. I've seen plenty of people here complain that they should count Torrenting because their favorite show is cancelled or in danger of being cancelled.

Yeah I'm hoping UK fans are smart and watch it live even if they have downloaded it and seen it already. I'm thinking they will though as it's a small cult show with really caring fans that will try anything to get another season. I just hope there isn't to many hard core fans that think they will teach the BBC a lesson by downloading it and not watching it live.

[phatrat1982]

I love Torchwood but I don't have Starz so I had to watch it online. I really want to see it because I would love to see it do good but with no way of tuning in I won't be contributing to the ratings. I will be buying all of the seasons on Blu Ray next month as that is the best I can do to do my part.


By The Way not going to spoil anything but they already did reveal what happens to Jack in Doctor Who Season 3 Last of the Time Lords so I doubt there is going to be anything here that will alter that much.

[detective392]

Originally Posted by phatrat1982

I love Torchwood but I don't have Starz so I had to watch it online. I really want to see it because I would love to see it do good but with no way of tuning in I won't be contributing to the ratings. I will be buying all of the seasons on Blu Ray next month as that is the best I can do to do my part.


By The Way not going to spoil anything but they already did reveal what happens to Jack in Doctor Who Season 3 Last of the Time Lords so I doubt there is going to be anything here that will alter that much.

RTD has confirmed that Jack is not

[Show spoiler]the face of boe and it was just something that he added to make fans talk. It has no bearing or weight in Jacks future and anything can happen to Jack.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by detective392

Wow just noticed that and I think I actually start all my posts that way actually

You do, that's why I've turned you into a drinking game. Change the game now and I'm gonna be awfully angry.....and sober.....

[detective392]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

You do, that's why I've turned you into a drinking game. Change the game now and I'm gonna be awfully angry.....and sober.....

Yeah I don't want to do that

[phatrat1982]

Originally Posted by detective392

RTD has confirmed that Jack is not

[Show spoiler]the face of boe and it was just something that he added to make fans talk. It has no bearing or weight in Jacks future and anything can happen to Jack.

Well considering I don't read interviews nor do I take them as proof of anything so until they show something in universe that is all I have to go by. I don't follow the other fiction so unless they mention something in a magazine, radio or whatever else they have I will continue to assume that it is the way it is because anything said out side of the universe especially in interviews I can't give much weight to. Has he been entirely straight in the past or does he have a history of misleading people? That would also have to be a factor.

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by phatrat1982

Well considering I don't read interviews nor do I take them as proof of anything so until they show something in universe that is all I have to go by. I don't follow the other fiction so unless they mention something in a magazine, radio or whatever else they have I will continue to assume that it is the way it is because anything said out side of the universe especially in interviews I can't give much weight to. Has he been entirely straight in the past or does he have a history of misleading people? That would also have to be a factor.

RTD LOVES to mess with fans.

The first episode is free on Demand. Love it. Missed Captain Jack.