People buying Blu-ray w/o HDTV!!!

[actionhank]

Originally Posted by Tru-way

Did it ever cross your mind that this so called "usefull idiots" could be buying future proof movies for there PS3 because there shure theyll be buying an HD TV in the future?

Ive read in a few forums about people that have dozens of Blu-ray movies yet have no Blu-ray player, they said they bought the movies because they were shure they would buy a blu ray player in the future and didnt want to miss out on the sweet deals Blu has been getting lately, can you also call this people idiots or wise thinkers?

I don't understand the reasoning behind this "future proofing." Why on earth would you buy expensive BDs if you're not gonna be able to use them? Sure you might plan on buying a player in the future, but then the prices of the BDs will be cheaper, thus it would be smarter to wait. As for the sweet deals, c'mon it's not like the marketers are gonna stop having these promotions and price discrimination tactics once the format war is over.

[zombieking]

Originally Posted by Tru-way

Did it ever cross your mind that this so called "usefull idiots" could be buying future proof movies for there PS3 because there shure theyll be buying an HD TV in the future?

Ive read in a few forums about people that have dozens of Blu-ray movies yet have no Blu-ray player, they said they bought the movies because they were shure they would buy a blu ray player in the future and didnt want to miss out on the sweet deals Blu has been getting lately, can you also call this people idiots or wise thinkers?

I encouraged my friend to start buying blus instead of dvds, and he isn't getting his PS3 until around Xmas time. It makes sense, if you know that you will eventually buy.

[reiella]

Well, consider this point of view.

They can play the BD now. In the future, when they want to go up to an HD-TV they don't have to repurchase their film.

Kinda like actually future proofing yourself, instead of just glueing old tech to new tech.

[Xerious]

having invested $2K in bd before i got my first HD set, i can attest to "futureproofing"... when new titles came out i in both SD and HD, i bought the HD regardless of if i could get the full experience. i still don't get FULL 1080p as my XBR is native 720p. some would say i could have put that $2 towards a HD set, but why miss out on the movies i want to enjoy now? since when is investing in something stupid? i'll kick you in the nuts.

[bhampton]

My neighbor, lets just call him Sam is in 4th grade and got a PS3 for his birthday. He has it hooked up to a nice new big screen HDTV via the in the box composite cable. (His dad bought the TV for Football season but according to him he doesn't think it's getting signals in HD even though he pays extra on his cable bill for it.)

I have an extra set of component output cables from my PS3 because I eventually went HDMI but I can't convince him to take them home and use them.

He buys Blu Rays and I think it's mostly just fun for him because he has to use the shiny new PS3 to play them.

So, yeah, in his case some thinking could help his setup. But,.. He's happy with it so I guess he's doing alright afterall.

-Brian

[bhampton]

Hey,

One more thing,.. Remember, buying Blu Rays is one of the funnest things a person can do. Let's never suggest people getting in on the fun are doing something "wrong."

-Brian

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by actionhank

I don't understand the reasoning behind this "future proofing." Why on earth would you buy expensive BDs if you're not gonna be able to use them? Sure you might plan on buying a player in the future, but then the prices of the BDs will be cheaper, thus it would be smarter to wait. As for the sweet deals, c'mon it's not like the marketers are gonna stop having these promotions and price discrimination tactics once the format war is over.

Since Inception, the price of DVDs have gone down less than the amount it would cost to buy 2 DVDs right now.

Blu-Rays would have to drop to under 10$ a pop in order for it to make sense to buy DVD now and "cheaper" Blu-Ray later.

If you are buying Bargain bin movies, then it might be worth holding off. Otherwise, you are an idiot to buy something twice in order to pay less for Blus later.

Even then, if you wait for a sale like the BOGO deal it is impossible to ever have the "buy twice" route be cheaper.

[Smallville206]

I don't see anything wrong with it. I bought dvds before I had a dvd player. This was when dvds first came out and the player I wanted was $1200. I did have an HD set before I went Blu ray, but I would have purchased them even if I hadn't yet, no need to buy the same movie twice.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Damn, thats a long time to wait. I didn't have enough patience to wait that long because I was thinking," What was the point in having blu-ray equipment without an HDTV"

Think that is long? I waited 4.5 years for another job that paid me well enough to support a home entertainment system! I had a decent one and then downsizing in this already small company. Ugh...what a mess.

I first started looking at HD in 2000, but the expense and jobless issue really kicked me in the pants. I was working at Radio Shack and away for an Air National Guard weekend when I saw the Sony Wega HDTV I have now. It was about $2500 retail. Because it was the last one, it was discounted. Used a special $10 coupon I had and got it for under $1400. Were it not for a fellow guardsman buddy helping me get it home, I would have lost the dream. That was about March 2004. Mind you, Radio Shack was NOT a good paying job. I bit the bullet becasue the deal was so good for me.

It didn't have an ATSC tuner so I was getting regular analog stations and enjoyed some movies in widescreen. Months later I spent about $600 on the tuner. Only a few stations were broadcasting in digital at the time, and most of that content wasn't even high def, though the resolution was supported.

Once in a while I re-ran the autotuner and started finding more local stations in HD. I now get virtually all the local stations digitally over the air, and a few not available on analog.

So tell me, who waited a long time?

[shakeyspear]

Buying Blu-rays before even having a HDTV is something I've wondered about myself. Why? Because I'm one of those people! In fact (and don't laugh at this), I don't even have a player yet either!

When DVDs first came out, and being a huge movie buff, I knew I'd be getting a DVD player one day (being in no rush and not wanting to jump-in too quickly and get dodgy first generation hardware) so I began building up a DVD collection in anticipation for when I finally did buy a player. Can't remember how many DVDs I had now (it was quite a few though) but on that day I had a wonderful selection to choose from and was extremely happy for many weeks afterwards watching great films with a far superior PQ than ol' VHS. I'll never forget that first night watching my first DVD (The Truman Show)...

Years later, along comes HD and I know for sure I'll be upgrading both my standard TV and DVD player sometime in the near future. I chose Blu-ray over HD DVD after researching both formats and have, for a good few months now, been slowly buying Blu-ray discs again in anticipation of the day I go out and buy a brand new 1080p TV and Blu-ray player. I absolutely refuse to buy movies on DVD now and will only buy them on Blu-ray if possible (and if I want them in my collection, of course) or rent them out from Blockbuster if not. I have no doubt that Blu-ray will win the format war and am patient enough to wait for movies like Transformers to come over to the blu side in time. I'm certainly not an 'idiot' for going this route and haven't taken offence to that description. I must admit though I'm quite anxious to upgrading my hardware as I've seen some amazing demos of blu-ray films. I'm still in the process of convincing the wife but she's slowly coming over and I'm sure will see things my way soon.

[navychop]

Originally Posted by actionhank

Why on earth would you buy expensive BDs if you're not gonna be able to use them? Sure you might plan on buying a player in the future, but then the prices of the BDs will be cheaper, thus it would be smarter to wait. As for the sweet deals, c'mon it's not like the marketers are gonna stop having these promotions and price discrimination tactics once the format war is over.

I got all my BDs, save for 1 or 2, on a sale. Half price, generally. I figured that sure, prices will go down, more sales in the future- but a good price now got me the movie. I'd have stuff to watch once the Blu-ray player arrived. Otherwise, I'd be waiting for sales after the player arrived, or be paying full price.

And, sad to say, once HD DVD fades, there will be less downward price pressure on Blu-ray. Sure, the move then will be to compete with DVD, but pricing will not be the main selling point.

[haushausman]

I'm sure they're saving and realize what HDTVs are and what they do.

[SpikesBluBlooded]

Originally Posted by actionhank

I don't understand the reasoning behind this "future proofing." Why on earth would you buy expensive BDs if you're not gonna be able to use them? Sure you might plan on buying a player in the future, but then the prices of the BDs will be cheaper, thus it would be smarter to wait. As for the sweet deals, c'mon it's not like the marketers are gonna stop having these promotions and price discrimination tactics once the format war is over.

Wow. Where to start. I think another poster further down put it best when he described starting his DVD collection. While I went the opposite route, both times (TV and Player first, then the movies), I did so because I was able to afford it, and I'm very thankful for that ability. I don't discredit, degrade, and attempt to demoralize others who aren't so lucky by calling them idiots. And since the OP hasn't done so, allow me: On behalf of the rest of the Blu-ray community, to all you futureproofers waiting for the day to fully appreciate your blu-ray collection, I would like to extend my sincerest apologies for such hateful and insulting words.

As for the quote above, what can I say, some people truly are "elitests" and don't understand that not everyone's financial situation allows them to do things in the order that they would like to do them in. Kudos to them for realizing that and being smart consumers! Heck, I think it makes them better blu-bloods than those of us with all the bells-and-whistles! I mean, they're supporting the format with not only non-1080p viewing capabilities, but also even without a player! THAT'S real support. That's called faith and conviction, and I applaud them for it. It is for these people that we owe the greatest amounts of thanks to that we're winning the format war. It really says volumes for the format that they're willing to invest in it and not get any benefit from it until some time in the future.

That's something to think about folks. We should be encouraging this type of behavior from our friends and co-workers who can't afford the full set-up, but know that one day they would like to. It's investing in the future, and it's never a bad idea. {climbing off my soap box now}

[gearyt]

During the great sales this week, Blu's were only $10 - $15 !
and someone could " grow into the HDTV " Xmas is coming !!
I was crazy enuf to order 5th Element before players were avail
just to keep tabs on what was going on

[pscoop]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

For once we can benefit from the stupidity of others.

I works both ways. I was on another forum and someone was saying how the the text on the special features for his HD DVD Transformers was too small to see. He pointed out he was watching it on a 27 inch SD TV. I asked him why and he never answered me. Score one for HD DVD.

[glenn22]

As has been stated by many people in this thread already, these people buying Blu-ray discs to watch on SDTVs may just be buying them to future-proof their collection for when they can afford an HDTV. You can still watch the Blu-ray movies on your SDTV, so why buy inferior DVD movies when you can get the Blu-ray and not have to re-buy later?

In the event that the people buying them for their SDTVs without realizing they need and HDTV to get the better PQ.... well I wouldn't call them idiots, I'd just call them uninformed, and as people that ARE informed, it's up to us to educate.

[tron3]

Originally Posted by actionhank

I don't understand the reasoning behind this "future proofing." Why on earth would you buy expensive BDs if you're not gonna be able to use them? Sure you might plan on buying a player in the future, but then the prices of the BDs will be cheaper, thus it would be smarter to wait. .

As it has been said, blu-ray still plays better in 480i/p than any DVD. A prime example, as I often note, is "A Christmas Story". That muddy, chopped up 4:3 version on DVD is a disgrace. Even when they went 16:9, they simply chopped the 4:3 picture down to 16:9, thus cutting out even MORE of the picture.

The clarity of blu-ray alone is worth the money. If I knew then what I know now, I would still buy SOME DVD's, but would have waited for blu-ray for the majority of them.

Originally Posted by actionhank

Sure you might plan on buying a player in the future, but then the prices of the BDs will be cheaper, thus it would be smarter to wait. .

It costs more to buy the DVD and rebuy them on BD. It is smarter to just pay a little more now for blu-ray. I'm lucky that someone will be buying some of my DVD's for 5 bucks each. There is still a bunch of VHS in the house and I doubt people want them for even a buck each.

I expect sometime in the future that 2160P (or higher) will be the new HDTV norm. Blu-ray will still hold its own in picture quality, thus not prompting me to buy the movie yet again! DVD doesn't have that kind of staying power, now does it? Makes sense to buy bd now!

[E-Dogg]

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[w_tanoto]

Originally Posted by E-Dogg

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