Captain America: The Winter Soldier 3D Blu-ray (2014) [Region Free]

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

The Target Exclusive is $22.99 right now.

http://www.target.com/p/captain-amer...e/-/A-16227239

Thanks.
That price will be tough to pass up regardless of the bonus extras, which are nice IMO but something I watch most times only once, so not being on disc isn't a deal breaker, but it will depend on what better exclusives other stores might offer.

So for now anyway, amazon won't have any pre orders for Captain America 2 3D.

[Sithlord75]

Not long finished watching the UK 3D version.

Considering how poor I thought Thor 2 was in 3D, this was really great & easily on par with The Avengers.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Sithlord75

Not long finished watching the UK 3D version.

Considering how poor I thought Thor 2 was in 3D, this was really great & easily on par with The Avengers.

Just watched the 3D trailer again of this one and it looks good (Medium 3D), though I'll have to watch the movie again on blu ray 3D soon for a comparison to Thor 2's 3D, which I though was pretty good (Mostly Medium 3D). Guardians of the Galaxy's strong 3D, another Marvel title, wipes out both of these titles' 3D.

Avengers final 40 minutes had strong 3D going on and was impressive. The dialog shots though, were mostly mild 3D in comparison.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Sithlord75

Not long finished watching the UK 3D version.

Considering how poor I thought Thor 2 was in 3D, this was really great & easily on par with The Avengers.

I also thought Thor 2's 3D was pretty bad, so I'm glad to hear that Cap 2 is a step up. Getting mine tomorrrow!

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I also thought Thor 2's 3D was pretty bad, so I'm glad to hear that Cap 2 is a step up. Getting mine tomorrrow!

I just watched this on 3d blu-ray. It has a few shoots that look good

[Show spoiler]such as the carriers shooting on one another and Falcon flying around the carriers.

. But for the overwhelming majority of the film it is a 3d conversion that brings nothing to the table. Very few shoots are framed with 3d in mind (if any, so few are framed for 3d it could just be luck).

Add to that the shaky camera and it is a film that simply doesn't suit 3d. It clearly wasn't intended by the film makers, just like Thor 2. I recommend sticking with the 2d release unless you can get the 3d release at no premium. It is really the kind of 3d that I fell is turning people of 3d. Tacked on an unnecessary only present for China and to charge a price premium.

In fact all of Marvels films (aside from Avengers and GOTG) are not worth seeing in 3d. The first Captain America was also apparently shoot for 3d but the results if I recall correctly where subpar. Thor 1 and 2's use of 3d was subpar as was Iron Man 3's.

[Paul H]

If anyone finds any source about the post production 3D work on Captain America: The Winter Soldier, please post the link. Interviews or any info that would pertain to the production 3D process are scarce. Thanks.

[Adam_ME]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

I just watched this on 3d blu-ray. It has a few shoots that look good

[Show spoiler]such as the carriers shooting on one another and Falcon flying around the carriers.

. But for the overwhelming majority of the film it is a 3d conversion that brings nothing to the table. Very few shoots are framed with 3d in mind (if any, so few are framed for 3d it could just be luck).

That's how I felt watching it in the theater. The 3D was good during the scenes where the Falcon is flying, but otherwise it didn't do much for me. It was better quality 3D than Thor 2, but that ain't saying much. The only Marvel movie I've liked in 3D so far was The Avengers. The rest ranged from average with the first Captain America to borderline unwatchable in the case of the first Thor.

That aside, Captain America 2 the actual movie is fantastic. It renewed my faith in Marvel after the awful start Phase 2 got off to.

[brian9229]

Ive watched this in 3D twice already at home and the 3D is quite good. I find it to be better than Thor 1 and about on par with Thor 2, but none imo are as good as Cap 1 which i thought was alot better than most conversions. Most of the darker scenes maintained good depth throughout, id love to see one of these Marvel movies with a Titanic-level conversion.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

I just watched this on 3d blu-ray. It has a few shoots that look good

[Show spoiler]such as the carriers shooting on one another and Falcon flying around the carriers.

. But for the overwhelming majority of the film it is a 3d conversion that brings nothing to the table. Very few shoots are framed with 3d in mind (if any, so few are framed for 3d it could just be luck).

Add to that the shaky camera and it is a film that simply doesn't suit 3d. It clearly wasn't intended by the film makers, just like Thor 2. I recommend sticking with the 2d release unless you can get the 3d release at no premium. It is really the kind of 3d that I fell is turning people of 3d. Tacked on an unnecessary only present for China and to charge a price premium.

In fact all of Marvels films (aside from Avengers and GOTG) are not worth seeing in 3d. The first Captain America was also apparently shoot for 3d but the results if I recall correctly where subpar. Thor 1 and 2's use of 3d was subpar as was Iron Man 3's.

I agree, they could have pushed the 3D a lot more in this one. It looks good for a medium converison, but would have been awesome, like the movie was IMO, if they pushed it into the higher cost budget of strong 3D.

Originally Posted by Paul H

If anyone finds any source about the post production 3D work on Captain America: The Winter Soldier, please post the link. Interviews or any info that would pertain to the production 3D process are scarce. Thanks.

I haven't seen anything yet but agree, it would be interesting to hear their 3D goals here.

Originally Posted by brian9229

Ive watched this in 3D twice already at home and the 3D is quite good. I find it to be better than Thor 1 and about on par with Thor 2, but none imo are as good as Cap 1 which i thought was alot better than most conversions. Most of the darker scenes maintained good depth throughout, id love to see one of these Marvel movies with a Titanic-level conversion.

I agree it is good medium 3D in many shots. Pretty consistent I remember.
Definitely do not miss the STRONG 3D hybrid conversion of Guardians of the Galaxy. The strongest 3D in a Marvel movie so far.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I agree, they could have pushed the 3D a lot more in this one. It looks good for a medium converison, but would have been awesome, like the movie was IMO, if they pushed it into the higher cost budget of strong 3D.

To add further thoughts. I think one reason why I loathed the 3d may not be the 3d in of itself (though it is less then spectacular for the most part). But the 3d disc has very poor skin tones (shoots of Captain before jumping out of the plane leave him with an entirely ultra sun burnt red face). Also the dreaded black crush is present on the 3d disc but absent for the 2d disc. I have no idea why this would have been done or if it is simply a transfer error. In any case it is dssapointing and the 3d really isn't worth it (the editing of action scenes minus perhaps the finale is also clearly made for 2d).

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

To add further thoughts. I think one reason why I loathed the 3d may not be the 3d in of itself (though it is less then spectacular for the most part). But the 3d disc has very poor skin tones (shoots of Captain before jumping out of the plane leave him with an entirely ultra sun burnt red face). Also the dreaded black crush is present on the 3d disc but absent for the 2d disc. I have no idea why this would have been done or if it is simply a transfer error. In any case it is dssapointing and the 3d really isn't worth it (the editing of action scenes minus perhaps the finale is also clearly made for 2d).

Thanks for the heads-up! It will be important then to compare the UKs 3D version to the U.S. version when released on September 9 for 3D authoring differences.

[SteamPunkCat]

Originally Posted by Sithlord75

Not long finished watching the UK 3D version.

Considering how poor I thought Thor 2 was in 3D, this was really great & easily on par with The Avengers.

[levcore]

I thought Thor 2 had good 3D. Not major deep or anything but a solid presentation. In fact i can't think of a Marvel movie where i've not enjoyed the 3D and i ONLY watch the 3D versions now.

[TyTimp]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

...But the 3d disc has very poor skin tones (shoots of Captain before jumping out of the plane leave him with an entirely ultra sun burnt red face)....

I noticed this too on the 3D disc.

[Geoff D]

Just watched it and I've gotta agree, it's quite a bland conversion. Like a lot of recent conversions I've seen it's not bad in a purely technical sense, but they simply don't want to push the 3D too far. (Didn't see any fubar skin tones though, the colour looked fine to me.)

I don't think it's a case of 'shooting for 3D' in 2D space, because something like Titanic was never, ever shot with stereo in mind and yet look at that conversion, it's astonishingly good IMO. Why? Because they took the proper amount of time to do it, some 18 months IIRC. But all theatrical conversions have a much more limited time frame to do the same sort of job, so it's no wonder they're more like 2.5D. Yes, the occasional gem does creep through (Cap 1, Avengers, Wolverine) but that seems to be more by luck than judgement.

[UFAlien]

To those having issues with skin tones on the 3D version; if you can, try switching your TV into 2D mode while playing the 3D version and see if the problem's still there? I've noticed that my TV at least pushes reds too much whenever it's in 3D mode.

[Geoff D]

Funny you should say that, because my TV's out-of-the-box greyscale in 3D mode was waaaaay off, with - you've guessed it! - far too much red. 3D is quite tricky to calibrate with a colorimeter so I've done it by eye using my 2D calibrated picture as a reference, both on test patterns and real world content.

Winter Soldier 3D looks excellent in terms of general PQ, it's the 3D that's the letdown.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by UFAlien

To those having issues with skin tones on the 3D version; if you can, try switching your TV into 2D mode while playing the 3D version and see if the problem's still there? I've noticed that my TV at least pushes reds too much whenever it's in 3D mode.

It is still there.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

To add further thoughts. I think one reason why I loathed the 3d may not be the 3d in of itself (though it is less then spectacular for the most part). But the 3d disc has very poor skin tones (shoots of Captain before jumping out of the plane leave him with an entirely ultra sun burnt red face). Also the dreaded black crush is present on the 3d disc but absent for the 2d disc. I have no idea why this would have been done or if it is simply a transfer error. In any case it is dssapointing and the 3d really isn't worth it (the editing of action scenes minus perhaps the finale is also clearly made for 2d).

Interesting observation on the color. Many 3DTVs go for a brighter image, and often deeper color saturation to compensate for the darker shade of the 3D glasses, but I will keep an eye out for this in this movie in particular since I don't notice this effect in other films of 3D, thanks.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Just watched it and I've gotta agree, it's quite a bland conversion. Like a lot of recent conversions I've seen it's not bad in a purely technical sense, but they simply don't want to push the 3D too far. (Didn't see any fubar skin tones though, the colour looked fine to me.)

I don't think it's a case of 'shooting for 3D' in 2D space, because something like Titanic was never, ever shot with stereo in mind and yet look at that conversion, it's astonishingly good IMO. Why? Because they took the proper amount of time to do it, some 18 months IIRC. But all theatrical conversions have a much more limited time frame to do the same sort of job, so it's no wonder they're more like 2.5D. Yes, the occasional gem does creep through (Cap 1, Avengers, Wolverine) but that seems to be more by luck than judgement.

Great point. Pacific Rim 3D of 2013, and Guardians of the Galaxy 2014 are two examples were they really took their time with the 3D hybrid conversion and paid extra for that stronger 3D. Edge of Tomorrow another one.

Originally Posted by UFAlien

To those having issues with skin tones on the 3D version; if you can, try switching your TV into 2D mode while playing the 3D version and see if the problem's still there? I've noticed that my TV at least pushes reds too much whenever it's in 3D mode.

Will give that a try, thanks.

The fighting in Captain America WS was brilliant and well choreographed.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Interesting observation on the color. Many 3DTVs go for a brighter image, and often deeper color saturation to compensate for the darker shade of the 3D glasses, but I will keep an eye out for this in this movie in particular since I don't notice this effect in other films of 3D, thanks.

It is the transfer, not the tv accuracy. As I said, even when showing the 3d disc in 2d the issue is present. The scene I mentioned is the most egregious moment but poor and inconsistent skin tones are present throughout much of the film.