The Golden Compass

[clyon]

"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge."
- Albert Einstein

I'am not a religous person. Religion & gods are for the dead & I'am not there yet. Religion, in general, is the most damaging, dangerous invention men has ever made.

I am getting this one, like to know how they kill off a god.

[jkwest]

Originally Posted by nomad2010

if you read the last book you will find out that they SAVE GOD and KILL THE DEVIL. NOT KILL GOD. I got this right away when i read the books in 2000. its right there in the text. there is only one line that states this but it is there. dust is god. not this false god. thats why these protests are so absurd. catholics are protesting a film saying god is good and the devil is evil.

heres an aritcle on it. this lady who wrote this article did an interview with the author confirming all this... its all very interesting.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/id...d_in_the_dust/

Thank you for this link. I have heard about this movie and book series from around the net...my kids really want to see this movie...I think I will read the series first...

[The Laughing Man]

Yeah, this thread will be closed soon, but before it does.

I have read all the books. The first book is tame. The concepts of bringing down the Kingodom of Heaven and establishing a Republic of Heaven (one ruled by the people, rather than a supreme being), killing God, the role of Dust and all that isn't brought up until the second book.

The final book culminates w/ an attack on the Kingdom of God, where he is eventually killed and the Kingdom of God falls and it is up to, essentially the next generation to build a new Heaven, this one dictated by the people.

The movie is supposed to deal w/ a war with the Magesterium rather than the Kingdom of God. The Magesterium will protrayed as an oppressive church gone wrong - rather than the all out war portrayed in the books.

Just wanted to squeeze one in before the mods close this thread.

[Right of Might]

Originally Posted by nomad2010

if you read the last book you will find out that they SAVE GOD and KILL THE DEVIL. NOT KILL GOD. I got this right away when i read the books in 2000. its right there in the text. there is only one line that states this but it is there. dust is god. not this false god. thats why these protests are so absurd. catholics are protesting a film saying god is good and the devil is evil.

heres an aritcle on it. this lady who wrote this article did an interview with the author confirming all this... its all very interesting.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/id...d_in_the_dust/

Wow excellent article. Once again the church got it wrong. This is kind of laughable because they really got it wrong. I just find it interesting that an Atheist would portray God is this light at all. This is also another example of how a person can be smart but on the whole people are stupid.

[ay221]

Here is one take on it
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=58341

[roachxp]

I was reading a thread at HDD that the release on dvd and HDM was going to be different then the theater version this according to the director, I guess they filmed an end based on the book too.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Right of Might

Wow excellent article. Once again the church got it wrong. This is kind of laughable because they really got it wrong. I just find it interesting that an Atheist would portray God is this light at all. This is also another example of how a person can be smart but on the whole people are stupid.

What all of you that are taking this point of view don't get, is that what we have here is an author, namely Pullman, who calls the Christian God, the Devil, and calls the Christian Devil, God. The article from the Boston Globe is predictable, liberal rubbish. That writer's interpretation of Pullman's works means NOTHING in comparison to Pullman's. For that writer to try to say Pullman is saying the opposite of what he is really saying is pure Orwellian double-speak.

[Right of Might]

Originally Posted by radagast

What all of you that are taking this point of view don't get, is that what we have here is an author, namely Pullman, who calls the Christian God, the Devil, and calls the Christian Devil, God. The article from the Boston Globe is predictable, liberal rubbish. That writer's interpretation of Pullman's works means NOTHING in comparison to Pullman's. For that writer to try to say Pullman is saying the opposite of what he is really saying is pure Orwellian double-speak.

Question for you...Have you read these books yourself? If not then I can't really see how your opinion is any more valid than you saying the reporters article is rubbish. Do you have a link to what Pullman was actually saying when he wrote his books? This is almost getting as bad as the "Harry Potter is the Devil" camp.

[khainne]

booo artistic expression

[Right of Might]

The funny part is all this thread has done is make me want to buy the other two books, read them for myself and come to my own conclusions. Go go conspiracy theories!!!

[nomad2010]

either way this movie, if done right like hairspray was will be an amazing blu-ray. the colors, and everything are great. and it's really different from most movies out there.

[Right of Might]

Originally Posted by nomad2010

either way this movie, if done right like hairspray was will be an amazing blu-ray. the colors, and everything are great. and it's really different from most movies out there.

Based on the previews it looks like a lot of eye candy. I did notice that the story itself appears to be different in and of itself, which actually made me want to read the books. Friday will be the day I get to see it, as is the case with most of us. I just hope it's as good as the book.

[nomad2010]

Originally Posted by Right of Might

Based on the previews it looks like a lot of eye candy. I did notice that the story itself appears to be different in and of itself, which actually made me want to read the books. Friday will be the day I get to see it, as is the case with most of us. I just hope it's as good as the book.

compared to most movies based off of books this is like a miracle. eragon, a series of unfortunate events, narnia (was ok but lacked the magic the books had) and so many others that have tried and failed.

this movie actually feels like the book. and is the first movie based on a book where i feel the casting compared to the book couldnt get any better. i'm very happy with this film. i don't understand how anyone couldn't like it.

[Bullseye]

The big question is will this look good in hi-def?

[nomad2010]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

The big question is will this look good in hi-def?

well with how great hairspray looks i would think sure think so.

[Bullseye]

How does Ms. Green look in the movie

[Right of Might]

Originally Posted by nomad2010

compared to most movies based off of books this is like a miracle. eragon, a series of unfortunate events, narnia (was ok but lacked the magic the books had) and so many others that have tried and failed.

this movie actually feels like the book. and is the first movie based on a book where i feel the casting compared to the book couldnt get any better. i'm very happy with this film. i don't understand how anyone couldn't like it.

Wow that's good news. There have definitely been a lot of book to movie translations that have bombed or been a let down. Both my wife and myself feel that way about the Harry Potter films after the first two. We loved how Chris Clombus captured the magic of the books that the others were simply lacking, but to each their own. Golden Compass seems to capture that surreal and gritty feel of the book and some of the lines in the previews are right out of the book. I love that they got Sam Elliott to play Lee Scoresby, and Ian McKellen voicing Iorek...those two just fit their role like a glove. It's kinda funny how they bummy down the titles for American viewers and readers. I don't recall the Alethiometer ever called the Golden Compass in the book. I like the title "The Northern Light" a lot better.

[nomad2010]

Originally Posted by Right of Might

Wow that's good news. There have definitely been a lot of book to movie translations that have bombed. Both my wife and myself feel that way about the Harry Potter films after the first two. We loved how Chris Clombus captured the magic of the books that the others were simply lacking. Golden Compass seems to capture that surreal and gritty feel of the book and some of the lines in the previews are right out of the book. I love that they got Sam Elliott to play Lee Scoresby, and Ian McKellen...those two just fit their role like a glove. It's kinda funny how they bummy down the titles for American views and readers. I don't recall the Alethiometer ever called the Golden Compass in the book. I like the title "The Northern Light" a lot better.

it's called an alethiometer throughout the whole movie. they just switched it in the previews as not to confuse people. an the northern lights aren't even in the movie so that's kind of sad but other than that i was very impressed.

[nomad2010]

Originally Posted by Bullseye

How does Ms. Green look in the movie

well to be honest tired, aged and gloomy. but she is still very attractive.

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by nomad2010

well to be honest tired, aged and gloomy. but she is still very attractive.

Jez she's a young enough women. What happened?