Star Trek TOS: The Roddenberry Vault (2016)

[Bolty]

Some really good news on this release. "Restored mono" tracks to go along with 7.1-- 3 new commentaries, 11 episodes have isolated scores and a total of 10+ hours of bonus material (that last part according to Trekmovie.com)
Subtracting the three hours of new commentaries that leaves 7 hours of documentaries spread out into 6 segments (2 docs per disc)
If those numbers are correct awesome amount of bonus material.

Link to Trekcore with complete updated specs....

http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/09/the...s-december-13/

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Some really good news on this release. "Restored mono" tracks to go along with 7.1-- 3 new commentaries, 11 episodes have isolated scores and a total of 10+ hours of bonus material (that last part according to Trekmovie.com)
Subtracting the three hours of new commentaries that leaves 7 hours of documentaries spread out into 6 segments (2 docs per disc)
If those numbers are correct awesome amount of bonus material.

Link to Trekcore with complete updated specs....

http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/09/the...s-december-13/

But will the episodes themselves feature the original or remastered effects shots?

[Bolty]

Originally Posted by nmycon

But will the episodes themselves feature the original or remastered effects shots?

I don't care which since I own the season sets. I prefer the remastered, but I will be watching this set mostly for the bonus.
Actually without the branching much more room for PQ.

The Star Trek "Origins" release from 2013-- with 5 episodes only had the remastered versions and the picture was noticeably better. That release also seemed to have less DNR and MPEG instead of VC-1. If that has any effect on PQ.

[Geoff D]

Definitely in for this, looks like a cracking little set of goodies. Hopefully they'll be the original VFX with no branching, and the fresh AVC encode could indeed bring some of its own benefits.

[Mr Kite]

Is this remastered with all the grain intact.

[blonde_devil]

I find it hilarious how this is being promoted and that Roddenberry even had copies of these because it is a well known fact that the reason we haven't seen these before is because Roddenberry stole and sold the trims back in the 60's. All those film cells that he sold and that sell at conventions (I have a few myself) are the Desilu/CBS version of these that Roddenberry took from their editing room and then sold. Now it is the "Roddenberry Vaults" version because he has the only copies - CBS should look a little more into this vault, god only knows what else they might find in there that they thought was lost!

Having said all that, I hope they don't overcharge on this as I do want to see these.

[Bobbyjoe766]

Originally Posted by blonde_devil

I find it hilarious how this is being promoted and that Roddenberry even had copies of these because it is a well known fact that the reason we haven't seen these before is because Roddenberry stole and sold the trims back in the 60's. All those film cells that he sold and that sell at conventions (I have a few myself) are the Desilu/CBS version of these that Roddenberry took from their editing room and then sold. Now it is the "Roddenberry Vaults" version because he has the only copies - CBS should look a little more into this vault, god only knows what else they might find in there that they thought was lost!

Having said all that, I hope they don't overcharge on this as I do want to see these.

Could these Roddenberry trims be the source of those bloopers tapes that have been around for years? If so,how much of this material will be never-before-seen?

[GrouchoFan]

ISOLATED SCORES?!?! That's it then; I'm all over this release like tribbles on quadrotriticale!!!!

[Bolty]

Originally Posted by GrouchoFan

ISOLATED SCORES?!?! That's it then; I'm all over this release like tribbles on quadrotriticale!!!!

Please remember what happened to the Tribbles though. Don't gorge yourself on isolated scores!

[Bolty]

Here is the difference between the original release and the "Origins" release that had a different codec and a lot less DNR...



http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=63829

[dougotte]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Here is the difference between the original release and the "Origins" release that had a different codec and a lot less DNR...



http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison.php?id=63829

The difference is striking. It would be nice to have the entire series redone like that.

[chriszilla]

Originally Posted by GrouchoFan

ISOLATED SCORES?!?! That's it then; I'm all over this release like tribbles on quadrotriticale!!!!

Yeah, the isolated score tracks hold a lot of appeal for me, as well. So far they haven't been talked about much, but that's a huge selling point for music fanatics. Here's hoping the documentaries and trims are compelling.

[Maxwell Everett]

Sounds pretty cool. Though, it's really a shame that of all the episodes, "City" doesn't get an isolated score because Fred Steiner did write original music for the episode -- it's not all stock cues from prior episodes. It was also recorded in stereo, which was rare at the time. If it's at all related to them losing rights to that "Goodnight Sweetheart" song again, it's pretty lame they couldn't just leave the isolated score silent there, since it's not score anyway, it's source music. But who knows what their reasons were exactly. Oh well.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by Bobbyjoe766

Hypothetically if it would be the only way to get all the outtakes in one box set why not?I could always offload the previous box sets on Ebay.I have zero interest in the movies-just TOS.

It might also be cheaper than buying who knows how many editions of THE RODDENBERRY VAULT to get all the outtakes.

All discussions about wanting to buy the entire series again aside, you love the show but don't even want to own the movies? Wha?

[willbfree]

I don't believe a disc containing all these trims would sell at all. It would also be incredibly tedious to watch.

The only sensible way to present these fragments is alongside their episodes.

So there were two options: delete the current TOS BluRay season sets and redo them with these "extra extras" added, OR, do what they've decided to do.

Imagine the outcry if they'd redone the season sets. People who spent a couple hundred dollars on them when they first came out would probably suggest they should get the new improved season sets for free. And they'd certainly have refused to spend another hundred bucks.

But putting out a $20 set like this (with some of the best episodes) is affordable, not to mention easier than remaking all the season sets.

[willbfree]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Some really good news on this release. "Restored mono" tracks to go along with 7.1-- 3 new commentaries, 11 episodes have isolated scores and a total of 10+ hours of bonus material (that last part according to Trekmovie.com)
Subtracting the three hours of new commentaries that leaves 7 hours of documentaries spread out into 6 segments (2 docs per disc)
If those numbers are correct awesome amount of bonus material.

Link to Trekcore with complete updated specs....

http://trekcore.com/blog/2016/09/the...s-december-13/

You have to subtract the several hours of isolated scores from that seven hours figure. So each documentary is probably under 10 minutes long, or thereabouts.

[Bolty]

There is no way the isolated scores are counting towards the 10 hours of bonus features.
The 3 commentaries and 11 isolated scores come to over 11.5 hours -- leaving zero for the 6 documentaries.

Time will tell if the 10 hours is accurate, but isolated scores don't count toward that total.

And "$20 set"--?

No way this set is under $35 on release day.

[Bobbyjoe766]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

All discussions about wanting to buy the entire series again aside, you love the show but don't even want to own the movies? Wha?

Strange,huh? The movies (and the other shows) have never held the same interest for me or been as much fun as STAR TREK TOS.

[Deciazulado]

Pre-order:



Star Trek: The Original Series - The Roddenberry Vault Blu-ray

[sandman slim]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

No news for 4K Remasters for the rest of the TOS and TNG films? With seamless branching for The Motion Picture and The Undiscovered Country with the remaining DVD bonus features? Hopefully not with the amateurish Mondo artwork.
So I'm guessing $56.99 MSRP for two discs since CBS/Paramount loves to price gouge STAR TREK fans.

Preorder just went up: $76.99. No longer interested...