Christmas Box Office Showdown (12/20-12/25) Greatest Showman, Jumanji, Downsizing - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

stvn1974 · 12-22-2017, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Star Lord

Wolverine is the last person who should be face palming. One false move and he puts and eye out.

Chaotic · 12-23-2017, 02:01 AM

Another Damon/Paramount flop within 2 months.

Jennifer Lawrence Fan · 12-23-2017, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic

Another Damon/Paramount flop within 2 months.

Talk about a bad year in general for them. Their profits are downsizing.

But I saw that movie had a run time of 135 mins. Why is that movie so long for? Proves them right for playing that trailer in front of almost damn movie out the last so many months.

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While the reviews for The Greatest Showman are mixed, they're more favourable than PP3.

So people don't like it? Figures. What do people like anymore?

Chaotic · 12-23-2017, 02:14 AM

The t-meter for Showman has been going up steadily. It was 42% Wed and now its 51%.

Jennifer Lawrence Fan · 12-23-2017, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic

The t-meter for Showman has been going up steadily. It was 42% Wed and now its 51%.

No reason to be rotten. Those critics are just rotten hearted like the critic In the movie.

Chaotic · 12-22-2017, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

But I do hope it plummets this weekend. Movie deserves to drop like an anvil. I know it won't, but i'll hope.

Why?

IndyMLVC · 12-22-2017, 08:55 PM

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain.../#2a19032d355c

'Last Jedi' Grosses Are Collapsing With The Worst Daily Holds Of All 9 Star Wars Movies

Batman1980 · 12-22-2017, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain.../#2a19032d355c

'Last Jedi' Grosses Are Collapsing With The Worst Daily Holds Of All 9 Star Wars Movies

Are they really putting it like that? It still had a huge opening so you can't call it a disappointment but I am absolutely stunned that its legs are already wobbly. This weekend with so many new films definitely won't help.

IndyMLVC · 12-22-2017, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman1980

Are they really putting it like that? It still had a huge opening so you can't call it a disappointment but I am absolutely stunned that its legs are already wobbly. This weekend with so many new films definitely won't help.

Read the article. It's very fair. But that's the headline. And it's Forbes - not some fanboy magazine.

Bugg · 12-22-2017, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman1980

Are they really putting it like that? It still had a huge opening so you can't call it a disappointment but I am absolutely stunned that its legs are already wobbly. This weekend with so many new films definitely won't help.

If it's doing less than expected, then it's a disappointment. Not a flop or even close to being a flop, but Star Wars is the Cadillac of movie franchises and comes with loftier expectations than anything else. Sort of like if the Superbowl gets 20% less viewers than expected, it's a disappointment even if it is still the highest rated program for the entire year.

Batman1980 · 12-22-2017, 09:06 PM

I can only imagine how Disney is reacting to the news, probably similar to how WB/DC reacted to the box office for Justice League.

WestMan · 12-22-2017, 09:12 PM

This is not a knock or an attack in any way. I've seen this with discussions about other topics too.

Some people just don't fully understand the difference between overall performance and expected performance.

The overall performance of Episode 8 is fantastic.

The difference between the expected performance and how it is actually performing is where the problem is. The movie was expected to have a small drop from Episode 7, like in the 15% to 20% range. Now it is looking at somewhere closer to a 33% drop. And based on the reaction, this could even effect future movies too.

Batman1980 · 12-22-2017, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WestMan

This is not a knock or an attack in any way. I've seen this with discussions about other topics too.

Some people just don't fully understand the difference between overall performance and expected performance.

The overall performance of Episode 8 is fantastic.

The difference between the expected performance and how it is actually performing is where the problem is. The movie was expected to have a small drop from Episode 7, like in the 15% to 20% range. Now it is looking at somewhere closer to a 33% drop. And based on the reaction, this could even effect future movies too.

How sure are they on JJ Abrams? If he's not already signed, I could see this performance affecting how sure they are on bringing him back.

WestMan · 12-22-2017, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Batman1980

How sure are they on JJ Abrams? If he's not already signed, I could see this performance affecting how sure they are on bringing him back.

If anything, these BO numbers could make them rethink handing an entire trilogy over to Rian Johnson. I wouldn't be shocked if all of a sudden there are "creative differences" or some other made up excuse to let him go. Disney isn't going to be happy. The most interesting quote from the Forbes BO article:

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"In fact, The Last Jedi isn't even holding as well as Justice League did. On its sixth day the DC film retained 27 percent of its opening day audience, nearly double what the Star Wars picture has done."

Batman1980 · 12-22-2017, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WestMan

If anything, these BO numbers could make them rethink handing an entire trilogy over to Rian Johnson. I wouldn't be shocked if all of a sudden there are "creative differences" or some other made up excuse to let him go. Disney isn't going to be happy. The most interesting quote from the Forbes BO article:

Oooh, that's bad and people were absolutely ripping Justice League for its legs. Heads will roll, the only question now is how many. If nothing else now I want to see it sooner, Christmas morning feels like a good time.

WestMan · 12-22-2017, 09:27 PM

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Oooh, that's bad and people were absolutely ripping Justice League for its legs. Heads will roll, the only question now is how many. If nothing else now I want to see it sooner, Christmas morning feels like a good time.

For it to have the same drop as Justice League, the film would have to only gross $70 Million for the second weekend. Rogue One did $64 Million for the second weekend and that was with a typical X-Mas day boost. It's going to be interesting. If the drop is even over 60%, I think the higher ups at Disney are going to be pissed that they are already showing major damage 3 movies in.... and Solo isn't looking good.

Cremildo · 12-22-2017, 11:58 PM

Deadline (midday update) projects a 83.6 million three-day weekend (-62%) and a 118 million four-day weekend

WestMan · 12-23-2017, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cremildo

Deadline (midday update) projects a 83.6 million three-day weekend (-62%) and a 118 million four-day weekend

62% would be the largest 2nd weekend drop off in the history of Star Wars movies. I personally think it will do closer to 65%.

Chaotic · 12-23-2017, 01:21 AM

Its a shame Greatest Showman is flopping so bad.

Jennifer Lawrence Fan · 12-23-2017, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic

Its a shame Greatest Showman is flopping so bad.

is it? Damn!

12-23-2017, 02:01 AM	#2
Chaotic Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Denver, CO	Another Damon/Paramount flop within 2 months.

12-23-2017, 02:14 AM	#4
Chaotic Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Denver, CO	The t-meter for Showman has been going up steadily. It was 42% Wed and now its 51%.

12-22-2017, 08:55 PM	#7
IndyMLVC Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:New York City, NY 4K collection:296 Blu-ray collection:738 DVD collection:58 Digital collection:754 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:62	https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain.../#2a19032d355c 'Last Jedi' Grosses Are Collapsing With The Worst Daily Holds Of All 9 Star Wars Movies

12-22-2017, 09:06 PM	#11
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	I can only imagine how Disney is reacting to the news, probably similar to how WB/DC reacted to the box office for Justice League.

12-22-2017, 09:12 PM	#12
WestMan Banned Member since:Oct 2016	This is not a knock or an attack in any way. I've seen this with discussions about other topics too. Some people just don't fully understand the difference between overall performance and expected performance. The overall performance of Episode 8 is fantastic. The difference between the expected performance and how it is actually performing is where the problem is. The movie was expected to have a small drop from Episode 7, like in the 15% to 20% range. Now it is looking at somewhere closer to a 33% drop. And based on the reaction, this could even effect future movies too.

12-22-2017, 11:58 PM	#17
Cremildo Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Brazil 4K collection:165 Blu-ray collection:1050 Trading Score:51	Deadline (midday update) projects a 83.6 million three-day weekend (-62%) and a 118 million four-day weekend

12-23-2017, 01:21 AM	#19
Chaotic Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Denver, CO	Its a shame Greatest Showman is flopping so bad.

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