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Old 05-23-2023, 07:34 AM   #1
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yes despite description saids 4k hdr dolby atmos dolby vision like new shazam movie or an older movie wonder woman 1984 it seems none of the 4k titles aren't doing hdr yet i assumed it will come up sometime today in new app am not sure i do know hdr was working hbo max btw<-i tested it other day and saw it

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Old 05-23-2023, 08:07 AM   #2
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ok so do you think because like i can watch disney plus and its show hdr well hdr 10 that maybe there are some bugs and despite description and perhaps afterwhile when they finished doing update it might show hdr again top of my 4k tv or do you think will still not going to show it
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Old 05-23-2023, 08:36 AM   #3
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HBO Max was MUCH better



Max seems to be complete crap. HBO Max was so easy to use. Max is a turd. It's just a turd out there.

The things I liked best about HBO Max are gone.

Last Chance https://play.hbomax.com/page/urn:hboage:last-chance

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All movies A-Z.


Remember the good ole days.




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Old 05-23-2023, 09:21 AM   #4
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HBO Max was MUCH better



Max seems to be complete crap. HBO Max was so easy to use. Max is a turd. It's just a turd out there.

The things I liked best about HBO Max are gone.

Last Chance https://play.hbomax.com/page/urn:hboage:last-chance

and

All movies A-Z.




Remember the good ole days.



I imagine, like when the HBO Max app first debuted, things will get adjusted over time. I imagine this new app is the same across all platforms and devices. WBD will adjust to each platform and device had the months go on, like they did with the HBO Max app.
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Old 05-23-2023, 01:58 PM   #5
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I’ve been able to get in now but didn’t try watching anything yet. Hopefully the hiccups get ironed out soon.
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I’ve been able to get in now but didn’t try watching anything yet. Hopefully the hiccups get ironed out soon.
I've tried watching some things once more.I t worked for a bit again but then I get the error message at other times.

I went to my laptop,it worked on both Microsoft Edge and Google Google Chrome.I went to my desktop which only uses Chrome.It worked for a bit then I started getting the error message when trying to watch something or click a tab.

Went back to laptop again, worked on both browsers again for the minute or tow I tried.Went back to desktop again ,got the error message again trying to watch/click tabs.

ETA

Variety has a article on the problems.

https://variety.com/2023/digital/new...rs-1235622581/

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Old 05-23-2023, 04:17 PM   #7
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For the content added in 4K, do we have any idea or way of knowing if they’re simply upscaled?
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For the content added in 4K, do we have any idea or way of knowing if they’re simply upscaled?
None are upscales, all are 4K DV proper as a 1/3 were already 4K DV before the Max relaunch. The others are using the 4K DV masters previously made but never on streaming on demand.
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Old 05-24-2023, 02:59 AM   #9
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None are upscales, all are 4K DV proper as a 1/3 were already 4K DV before the Max relaunch. The others are using the 4K DV masters previously made but never on streaming on demand.
Do you happen to have a citation? For example, Westworld and early seasons of Game of Thrones were all upscales for their UHD releases (as far as I'm aware).
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Old 05-23-2023, 05:42 PM   #10
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After some hiccups this morning trying to log in, it eventually did work for me. Apps are all updated on my devices and it's all good to go. It's nice to see a bump in 4K content. Currently I'm accessing Max through my phone service.
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so again i don't have dolby vision on my 4k tv but i don't get it how come on roku 4k tv that doesn't have dv a tlc i watch that new shazam movie i see hdr comes up however when i watch on my apple tv streaming<-the 1st one not the latest version i don't see hdr come up

however i know it works because was working hbo max app when i try to watch wonder woman 84 the other day

do you all see hdr come up as soon as you watch something on max app on tv screen apple tv app ?

somebody said on twitter I can not play HDR content on max app on Apple TV it play in dolby atmos but video is not hdr but when I play it on roku it play in hdr.<-this is what i'm talking about why it can show up on roku but not apple tv i guess this is a bug and will be fixed by end of the week?

now apple tv max app they bought back the none native app back like from beginning hbo max until they fixed it<-could this be reason why i don't see hdr come up on video because of this?

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Old 05-23-2023, 07:25 PM   #12
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so again i don't have dolby vision on my 4k tv but i don't get it how come on roku 4k tv that doesn't have dv a tlc i watch that new shazam movie i see hdr comes up however when i watch on my apple tv streaming<-the 1st one not the latest version i don't see hdr come up
jumpman and I explained how HDR/DV works on the AppleTV device.

Here is what I posted early this morning:

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Quoting myself again, HERE IS HOW TO TURN ON DOLBY VISION FOR MAX AND PEACOCK

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To get Dolby Vision on AppleTV (for now), set the AppleTV to output 4K Dolby Vision or choose enable Dolby Vision. Then go to Match Content and set Range & Frame Rate to On.


Turning on Match Content will switch any stream outside of Max and Peacock to the appropriate display settings. IE: 1080p or lower will be HD/SD without HDR/DV enabled, 1080p/4K HDR will display as HDR10, and (if supported) 1080p/4K HDR10+ will output at the proper HDR10+.

Now, while watching content on Max and Peacock, you will have a Dolby Vision layer for everything. Movies and shows with Dolby Vision tag will appear with the proper color while the non DV streams may look a bit darker. Don’t want that? Then as jumpman says, you got to change your Video settings everytime.
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jumpman and I explained how HDR/DV works on the AppleTV device.

Here is what I posted early this morning:


Wouldn't that be fake DV upconversion?
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Wouldn't that be fake DV upconversion?
I thought that too with Peacock earlier but evidently it is only partly right:

It does “fake” 4K DV upconversion for the non native 4K DV/HDR content. The native 4K DV/HDR is unaffected and displays properly. I don’t understand why Max and Peacock can not support Range Matching. Hulu does and the Apple app uses Hulu’s own player as does Disney+.

Hopefully the technicians update Max to support Range Matching like the old HBO Max app. I don’t expect the technicians at Peacock to do anything, users have been asking for the ability to turn off Autoplay since launch. There is still no way to turn off Autoplay but now you got an extra ten seconds.
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Old 05-23-2023, 07:36 PM   #15
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match rate and content is turn on i'm not talking about dolby vision because my lg 4k tv doesn't have it i want the word hdr come up on my tv like when i watch netflix or disney plus as soon as you watch its set on 4k hdr i'm using the 1st 4k apple tv streaming device btw

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match rate and content is turn on i'm not talking about dolby vision because my lg 4k tv doesn't have it i want the word hdr come up on my tv like when i watch netflix or disney plus as soon as you watch its set on 4k hdr i'm using the 1st 4k apple tv streaming device btw
OK. Instead of turning on Dolby Vision, set your AppleTV to output 4K HDR and leave Matching on for both. Now you’ll have HDR always on for Max and Peacock.

These two apps can not swap between SDR and HDR on AppleTV so it is either SDR everything in Max & Peacock or HDR everything in Max & Peacock. Anyway you choose, you still will not see the word HDR come up when you watch any content.
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OK. Instead of turning on Dolby Vision, set your AppleTV to output 4K HDR and leave Matching on for both. Now you’ll have HDR always on for Max and Peacock.

These two apps can not swap between SDR and HDR on AppleTV so it is either SDR everything in Max & Peacock or HDR everything in Max & Peacock. Anyway you choose, you still will not see the word HDR come up when you watch any content.
that's what i'm saying then how come when i watch hbo max this past week when i fire up wonder woman 84 it came up hdr on tv then disappear like normal the word and yet when fire up in max the word hdr doesn't automatically come up on tv

i doubt uninstall and install will help so to clarify when you guys fire up any movie or show that in description indicates in 4k the following dv dolby atmos hdr the word hdr doesn't show up on tv in new max app unlike it did hbo max is that what your saying?

my question do you think its due to them having it on native app that's why i don't see it they may fixed this week or do you think will never be fixed its a new thing so to speak have to handle it

i even see hdr come up as soon as i switch strumbox receiver to apple tv<-still don't know not doing it when i watch on max all of a sudden on 4k

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that's what i'm saying then how come when i watch hbo max this past week when i fire up wonder woman 84 it came up hdr on tv then disappear like normal the word and yet when fire up in max the word hdr doesn't automatically come up on tv

i doubt uninstall and install will help so to clarify when you guys fire up any movie or show that in description indicates in 4k the following dv dolby atmos hdr the word hdr doesn't show up on tv in new max app unlike it did hbo max is that what your saying?

my question do you think its due to them having it on native app that's why i don't see it they may fixed this week or do you think will never be fixed its a new thing so to speak have to handle it

i even see hdr come up as soon as i switch strumbox receiver to apple tv<-still don't know not doing it when i watch on max all of a sudden on 4k
I’ll explain it slower:

The Max app does not support switching between SDR and HDR unlike the HBO Max app.

That means with your AppleTV set to 4K HDR that everything you watch in the Max app will be upconverted to 4K with HDR.

You will not see the word HDR come up because HDR is already on. Why? The Max app can not switch between SDR and HDR.

A lot of content will look darker because it is being displayed in HDR. Why? The Max app can not switch between SDR and HDR.

Wonder Woman 1984 played via HBO Max on an AppleTV set to 4K SDR with Range Matching On will show the word HDR when the movie loads. Why? The HBO Max can switch between SDR and HDR.

Wonder Woman 1984 played via Max on an AppleTV set to 4K Dolby Vision or 4K HDR with Range Matching On will not show the word HDR when the movie loads. Why? The Max app can not switch between SDR and HDR.

Range Matching allows the app to switch the display between SDR and HDR/DV. The app has to support this: the Max app does not.
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I’ll explain it slower:

The Max app does not support switching between SDR and HDR unlike the HBO Max app.

That means with your AppleTV set to 4K HDR that everything you watch in the Max app will be upconverted to 4K with HDR.

You will not see the word HDR come up because HDR is already on. Why? The Max app can not switch between SDR and HDR.

A lot of content will look darker because it is being displayed in HDR. Why? The Max app can not switch between SDR and HDR.

Wonder Woman 1984 played via HBO Max on an AppleTV set to 4K SDR with Range Matching On will show the word HDR when the movie loads. Why? The HBO Max can switch between SDR and HDR.

Wonder Woman 1984 played via Max on an AppleTV set to 4K Dolby Vision or 4K HDR with Range Matching On will not show the word HDR when the movie loads. Why? The Max app can not switch between SDR and HDR.

Range Matching allows the app to switch the display between SDR and HDR/DV. The app has to support this: the Max app does not.
This is insane. Why would they do this? What were they thinking? Are they outta their minds?
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Max seems to be working for me now.I watched the first two episodes of the new Gremlins
series. I also tested a few other things and it all seems to be fixed
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