Twister (1996)

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by ClaytonMG

The lens is in front of the actors. They wouldn't block out the light that's being reflected and flared out across the lens. The only way they would block it out is if they walked in front of the windshield and blocked the light from reaching the lens. There's nothing wrong with those shots.

BINGO!! I've seen this a MILLION time on a MILLION different movies and TV shows.

~Alan

[owa]

Yay for me. Wrong on all accounts. Same "lens flare" in the DVD and the skin tones that I thought were over-saturated in the blu-ray are the same with the DVD I've watched 50 times. Geez...

[dmwiley]

NO I HAVE NOT SEEN TWISTER ON BLU-RAY AND THAT DUMB QUESTION ENTIRELY MISSES THE POINT. For those who have trouble comprehending common language, let me try again: the Blu-ray reviewer on this site virtually always gives the video a decent numerical rating, even after his narrative decries the quality. For once, just tell us don't waste your money on the Blu-ray. It is basically no better than the SD release. Show some guts an objectivity. Now do you understand?

[ClaytonMG]

Originally Posted by dmwiley

NO I HAVE NOT SEEN TWISTER ON BLU-RAY AND THAT DUMB QUESTION ENTIRELY MISSES THE POINT. For those who have trouble comprehending common language, let me try again: the Blu-ray reviewer on this site virtually always gives the video a decent numerical rating, even after his narrative decries the quality. For once, just tell us don't waste your money on the Blu-ray. It is basically no better than the SD release. Show some guts an objectivity. Now do you understand?

No, not really. Considering that this is an upgrade from the DVD, why would he say that? Plus, are you not responsible enough to decide whether you should buy something or not?

[BigLuvJason]

this is a major upgrade from the regular dvd!

[owa]

Originally Posted by dmwiley

For once, just tell us don't waste your money on the Blu-ray. It is basically no better than the SD release. Show some guts an objectivity. Now do you understand?

Nope, don't understand. Why say that when the blu-ray is a nice upgrade over the DVD?

Even though HighDefDigest didn't really like it too much either (just 3.5/5 for PQ) they still said this:

It may not pack the same punch as other catalog releases on Blu-ray, but it easily trumps every standard DVD on the market.

[Gremal]

Originally Posted by dmwiley

NO I HAVE NOT SEEN TWISTER ON BLU-RAY AND THAT DUMB QUESTION ENTIRELY MISSES THE POINT.

How do you reconcile that statement with:

It is basically no better than the SD release. Show some guts an objectivity.

If you haven't seen the blu-ray and done a comparison, how can you say it's no better than DVD?

[Variable]

I don't understand why "trumping every standard dvd" is something to write home about. it's a blu and should be rated compared to other blus, not to standard dvds.

I'd say a blu that's worse than a dvd would be 1 star or a half star out of five. something that's poor but still better doesn't really deserve 3.5stars (I'm not talking about twister specifically because I haven't seen it, just in general).

if you put something that's barely decent at 3.5 you cripple the scale of the 5 stars.

[Gremal]

I disagree. The overwhelming majority of movies out there are on DVD and the overwhelming majority of readers who come to this website will have far more experience viewing DVDs than blu-rays. So when rating the video quality, you need to have bad NTSC as the reference point for the bottom of the scale and excellent 1080p as the reference point for the top.

It's simply wrong for so many of you who have never even seen this BD to be criticizing Marty's rating. Don't you have anything better to do, like comment on the picture quality of a disc you actually own?

The monday morning QB'ing is getting old.

[Joe Cain]

Originally Posted by dmwiley

NO I HAVE NOT SEEN TWISTER ON BLU-RAY AND THAT DUMB QUESTION ENTIRELY MISSES THE POINT.

It doesn't miss the point, and being condescending doesn't make your case any better. If you haven't seen it, how can you POSSIBLY have an informed opinion about the review?

And if you want to be insulting about who can or cannot understand the language---maybe you never bothered reading bylines? There are reviewers on this site, but heaven forbid you should bother to learn a a single name before you start assaulting integrity.

Anyway:

Originally Posted by kiskiboy97

As far as discs I didn't like:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...96&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...06&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...61&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...33&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...70&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...47&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...37&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...60&show=review
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movie...32&show=review

If that is what "never" means, I need a new dictionary with the updated definition of the word.

So shut up already.

[Variable]

Originally Posted by Gremal

I disagree. The overwhelming majority of movies out there are on DVD and the overwhelming majority of readers who come to this website will have far more experience viewing DVDs than blu-rays. So when rating the video quality, you need to have bad NTSC as the reference point for the bottom of the scale and excellent 1080p as the reference point for the top.

that's pretty much what I said, though.

[owa]

Guess it's just a massive conspiracy by all the review sites...

DVDTown: PQ 9/10 ->

I found WB's previous, standard-definition release of "Twister" somewhat compromised by noise and grain and a dark, murky tone. Hardly any such worries here. The 1080p/VC-1 transfer is excellent on practically all counts, presenting the 2.40:1 widescreen image in beautifully rich, vibrant, detailed colors and mostly razor-sharp delineation.

DVD Authority: PQ 4.5/5 ->

Director Jan de Bont ("Speed") was a longtime cinematographer and as such, framed "Twister" beautifully in a 2.35:1 VC-1 HD transfer. While a majority of the color palette used contains earthy tones, browns and blacks, the transfer doesn't suffer in the least. I found the image detail bumped up and even broke out my old DVD for a few side by side comparisons. "Twister" benefits from HD making an already good-looking movie, great.

AV Forums (AVplay): PQ 8/10 ->

When compared against newer films released in 1080p, Twister inevitably comes up short, but when pitched against its own earlier SD incarnation, you can easily the fresher, clearer and sharper image, the added detail and the enhanced vibrancy of the colours. Encoded via VC-1, the 2.40 print has no problems at all and looks just fine. The packaging even proclaims that this has been remastered – so there are no glitches, damage or grain.
...
But, on the whole, Twister looks better than before and is a definite visual upgrade.

HighDefDigest: PQ 3.5/5 ->

The first thing I noticed was the clarity of the print -- remastered for its high-def debut, I didn’t catch any source noise, artifacting, edge enhancement, or print deficiencies. Scene to scene contrast is steady and the picture retains its filmic layer of grain without resorting to any messy post-processing effects like DNR. Details receives a healthy upgrade as well. Textures pop, hair and skin look fantastic in close-up shots, and tiny details like the flecked rust on Paxton’s truck add grit and personality to the set design that had I missed when watching the film on DVD.
...
All in all, ‘Twister’ provides a solid catalog transfer that has a lot to offer fans of the film. It may not pack the same punch as other catalog releases on Blu-ray, but it easily trumps every standard DVD on the market.

Probably the harshest review of them all is here. Even so, it's still noted that it's a definite upgrade over the DVD which seems in line with the other review sites and from people here that have compared them.

Blu-ray.com: PQ 3.5/5 ->

All things considered, this is definitely an upgrade from the DVD copy I own, although in the final analysis, I feel that it could have looked somewhat better than it does here.

[The Shrike]

Originally Posted by dmwiley

NO I HAVE NOT SEEN TWISTER ON BLU-RAY AND THAT DUMB QUESTION ENTIRELY MISSES THE POINT. For those who have trouble comprehending common language, let me try again: the Blu-ray reviewer on this site virtually always gives the video a decent numerical rating, even after his narrative decries the quality. For once, just tell us don't waste your money on the Blu-ray. It is basically no better than the SD release. Show some guts an objectivity. Now do you understand?

I understand what you are saying and agree to a point. I do think that the reviews on this site are far too forgiving in terms of picture quality sometimes. But what I think YOU fail to understand, is that they are using a 5=perfect to 0=a really shitty SD broadcast (e.g. a perfect upsaled DVD might get a 3, perhaps?) Using that scale, I think the reviewers comments relfect the numerical scale perfectly fine.

[dmwiley]

Originally Posted by Gremal

How do you reconcile that statement with:


If you haven't seen the blu-ray and done a comparison, how can you say it's no better than DVD?

You have totally missed the thrust of the entire discussion. You are the kind of person that the reviewer panders to-more money than sense. Post again when you have figured out what this thread is all about.

[lgans316]

and we shouldn't forget this proverb "To err is human to forgive is divine"

[Grubert]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

It look like Fixed Grain pattern that couldn't be eliminated and this is the left overs..

Fixed Grain Pattern - thank you! That's what I was seeing on The Assassination of Jesse James and couldn't really define with a term.

[HDJK]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Let's see how Universal delivers Twister overseas ?

Now that's interesting. I think I'll hold off for the domestic release to be compared to the Warner release.

[sardaukar1977]

Well I made the mistake of watching Casino Royale before watching Twister on BD. That really affected my opinion of the PQ of Twister, I would probably need to watch it again by itself to give a truly accurate impression of the films PQ and AQ.

I will say that the Dolby TrueHD 5.1 sounded incredible, much louder and more surrounding then the DVD mix.
as for the PQ, I wasn't really that impressed. but again, I watched a top notch BD before it, so I think that has made the PQ on Twister seem a bit lacking.

I did notice that several of the FX and CG sequences didn't look quite as convincing under the scrutiny of 1080p, but then again the movie came out in 1996 when CG effects were still in their infancy.

Over all the image is much better than its DVD counterpart. I am happy I bought it.

[Stiny-Ray2]

DVDTown: PQ 9/10 ->

I found WB's previous, standard-definition release of "Twister" somewhat compromised by noise and grain and a dark, murky tone. Hardly any such worries here. The 1080p/VC-1 transfer is excellent on practically all counts, presenting the 2.40:1 widescreen image in beautifully rich, vibrant, detailed colors and mostly razor-sharp delineation.

I'll take the reviewers take from DVDTown any day of the week. Their reviews set the standards for me.

[Zaphod]

Originally Posted by Stiny-Ray2

I'll take the reviewers take from DVDTown any day of the week. Their reviews set the standards for me.

I wouldn't expect the PQ to be as good as they put it, if you set yourself up for near perfection you might be disappointed and have buyers remorse.