The Shining (1980)

[brawlyjunk]

so, back on topic. Gonna probably watch this movie tonight for the first time on Blu. Cannot wait

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by brawlyjunk

so, back on topic. Gonna probably watch this movie tonight for the first time on Blu. Cannot wait

and back on topic for me too. it's an amazing film. one of Kubrick's best

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by koover

She is so freakin Fugly, that they didn't even put any make-up on her for the part of Olive Oil in the movie Popeye. I've seen better rear ends on a dog.

I actually think her plainness works to her advantage in The Shining. It makes her more vulnerable as opposed to a sex goddess, as sexual confidence makes a person appear stronger, more self-assured.

I think it's stupid that most studios these days always have to cast the most attractive leads they can find so that the audience can go to the movies just to fill up their spank banks.

The world is mostly made up of regular folks.

I've always liked how the horror genre traditionally handled the issue: If you're hot, you are cardboard prop that's gonna die.

[brawlyjunk]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

I actually think her plainness works to her advantage in The Shining. It makes her more vulnerable as opposed to a sex goddess, as sexual confidence makes a person appear stronger, more self-assured.

I think it's stupid that most studios these days always have to cast the most attractive leads they can find so that the audience can go to the movies just to fill up their spank banks.

The world is mostly made up of regular folks.

I've always liked how the horror genre traditionally handled the issue: If you're hot, you are cardboard prop that's gonna die.

That's what I like about Kubrick films. Average characters aren't played by super models.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by brawlyjunk

That's what I like about Kubrick films. Average characters aren't played by super models.

Agreed. Most everyone in his flicks falls somewhere in the middle when it comes to their looks. They look like real people. Spielberg's movies often have a similar philosophy.

[koover]

Originally Posted by hk3cx

are you blind or just plain jelous, she has be crowned the most beautiful woman since she won miss world in 1994, even oprah and julia roberts declared her the most beautiful woman and by you comparing her to those ugly trash is beyond insulting. she is known by billions for her stunning face and has had 2 wax figures in madam tussauds in london. there is a reason she is called the most beautful woman in the world

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LOL..... I'm talking about Shelly Duval. How funny. Yes, it would be insulting.

[koover]

Originally Posted by koover

LOL..... I'm talking about Shelly Duval. How funny. Yes, it would be insulting.

And yes back on topic for me too. I "personally" think this is the greatest horror movie of all time.

[J. J. Hunsecker]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

I actually think her plainness works to her advantage in The Shining. It makes her more vulnerable as opposed to a sex goddess, as sexual confidence makes a person appear stronger, more self-assured.

I think it's stupid that most studios these days always have to cast the most attractive leads they can find so that the audience can go to the movies just to fill up their spank banks.

The world is mostly made up of regular folks.

I've always liked how the horror genre traditionally handled the issue: If you're hot, you are cardboard prop that's gonna die.

Couldn't have said it better. Completely agree.

[shogun123]

I bought it for 7.99 from Amazon US, it is now back up to 20 dollars, looks like I got it in there just in time.

[Eny-]

Originally Posted by hk3cx

ok you just proved your jealousy with that absurd comment. caling her pretty is an offense because she is beyond stunning like a godess sent from the heaven so please take your insecurty and jealousy somewhere else

That is why it is said that beauty is on the eye of the beholder. To me that woman is pretty yes, not stunning or the "most beautiful woman in the world"

Back on topic: Yes, Shining is one of the greatest suspense/horror movies ever.

[MrHT]

I'm sorry, but we cannot get back to topic until we ALL can agree on who the prettiest woman in the world is.

Oh wait! That might be impossible because it's subjective. Yeah, ok. We can get back on topic now. Let's talk about The Shining.

[Takeshi666]

I think the question isn't so much "Is The Shining any good" but "which version is the better one".

If you haven't seen the shorter European version, I recommend it. It's much better paced and tense than the US cut.

[I KEEL YOU]

Originally Posted by Takeshi666

I think the question isn't so much "Is The Shining any good" but "which version is the better one".

If you haven't seen the shorter European version, I recommend it. It's much better paced and tense than the US cut.

Since I love the movie so much, I bought both versions. Just used a viva elite with 2 disc slots and had one of the paper covers face inwards, like inside artwork.

But as far as your question goes, I think I might lean a little towards the non-U.S. version. I like some extra parts added in the U.S. version, like the extended job interview in the beginning that gives a better idea how isolated the Overlook really is. Plus I like the longer tour of the Overlook Ullman gives. I also like the extended first conversation between Jack and Lloyd the bartender.

Other parts of the U.S. version I felt were HORRIBLE and/or corny. The first that comes to mind is Wendy coming to the room of skeletons at the end of the movie. That stock cliche horror effect was more suitable in some ancient 1930s primitive horror movie than a Kubrick psychological horror masterpiece that is The Shining. So much worse than Wendy's other three encounters with the horrors of the Overlook. Another part I felt was extremely corny is Wendy talking to herself and saying what her plans are. It felt so forced because of the fact that she didn't have anyone to talk to for her to speak what's on her mind at loud for the audience. Jack saying to himself outloud "I'd sell my soul for a glass of beer" could just cut it because it felt a lot more natural. Wendy's talk did not. I could also live without the doctor's visit to Danny in the beginning and the extended trip of Dick Hallorann to the Overlook.

Another part I did not like about the U.S. version is learning that the Torrances had several TVs in the Overlook. Before seeing the U.S. version, I always thought that they did not have television in the hotel, and that made the non-U.S. version feel much more claustrophobic. And it really feels more claustrophobic. It cuts off the entire dialogues of several characters (the doctor, Ullmann's partner Bill Watson, and the guy Hallorann is talking to on the telephone on his trip to the Overlook).

Overall, it's good to own both versions I feel. But if I had to pick one, I would probably go with the non-U.S. version because those couple of corny scenes from the U.S. version really annoy me.

[Filmmaker]

I'm so on the other side of the fence on this U.S. vs. UK cut thing, I can no longer even speak rationally about it. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a room with people all arguing that Lysol clearly tastes better than chocolate milk. The UK cut of THE SHINING is an abomination in my book that short-changes the material and feel like a riff on Kubrick, rather than the real McCoy. To each their own but, really, blech. I am so confounded that this remains a point of contention.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by filmmaker

i'm so on the other side of the fence on this u.s. Vs. Uk cut thing, i can no longer even speak rationally about it. Sometimes i feel like i'm in a room with people all arguing that lysol clearly tastes better than chocolate milk. The uk cut of the shining is an abomination in my book that short-changes the material and feel like a riff on kubrick, rather than the real mccoy. To each their own but, really, blech. I am so confounded that this remains a point of contention.

+1.

[MrHT]

After reading this thread, I now want to buy this BD. The next time this goes on sale for $10 or less, I'm grabbing it!!

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by MrHT

After reading this thread, I now want to buy this BD. The next time this goes on sale for $10 or less, I'm grabbing it!!

There's plenty of new copies on eBay going for $10.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

There's plenty of new copies on eBay going for $10.

Yes, but then someone will outbid me and bid up to $20. I gave up on Ebay. Stupid bidders jack up the price like crazy.

[kashif]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Yes, but then someone will outbid me and big up to $20. I gave up on Ebay. Stupid bidders jack up the price like crazy.

Search for "Buy it Now" only option. I found one brand new for only US $6.98. Have a look:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shining-Blu-...item4fbb1d0a97

I doubt that u can get cheaper than this ever.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Yes, but then someone will outbid me and big up to $20. I gave up on Ebay. Stupid bidders jack up the price like crazy.

Which is why I love selling on there.