Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by BorisandDoris94

A very close listen and analyzing the waveforms. This one isn't too hard to notice either...I noticed many new effects added. Thunder, echoes added to dialogue. Another really weird addition was the echo added during the "please shut down the system" scene. It's a total reimagining of the mix and balance, and I am not a fan. I think it's fine to include these sorts of mixes but at the very least make the original available.

They're NOT additions. Those have been in the original soundtrack all along. I've had every version of JP from VHS, LaserDisc, and now to these 4K discs and those "additional" effects have been there all along. They've been "juiced up" as one would say.

[RYJAPE21]

I just received my steelbook set from Amazon. Thankfully it was packaged well in a cardboard box (case is dent-free).

I’m looking forward to checking out JP1 tonight.

[maverick22]

Be sure to check for scratches on JP Lost World.

I have purchased 3, and they all have a good-sized scratch on the disc.

[The Rider]

Originally Posted by RYJAPE21

I just received my steelbook set from Amazon. Thankfully it was packaged well in a cardboard box (case is dent-free).

I’m looking forward to checking out JP1 tonight.

Could you take a photo of the packaging, in Europe the packaging from Amazon is usually a shame.

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by TazerMonkey

Also, and maybe it's just because I have a Sony X800M2 and thus have to do the colossally-stupid manual selection, but Dolby Vision is seriously overrated by the majority of users on this site. 99% of the time it looks identical or practically identical to standard HDR10.

It's not about DV at all. I'm yet to see JP in DV, but what I saw in HDR10 already made me a very happy camper. Improved grain, improved colors, better viewing experience overall. If you tried it even in HDR, you would see the difference.

[TazerMonkey]

Originally Posted by jerclay

It's not about DV at all. I'm yet to see JP in DV, but what I saw in HDR10 already made me a very happy camper. Improved grain, improved colors, better viewing experience overall. If you tried it even in HDR, you would see the difference.

That's not what I was saying. If the underlying master is different, it will of course look different. I was saying that if you take the exact same underlying master and watch it in both regular HDR10 and Dolby Vision, everything else being equal, it will look almost exactly, if not exactly, the same. Dolby Vision is mostly for marketing purposes, like "Hi-Res Audio" is for album releases. The important part is the mastering itself, not the format.

Again, I'm glad there's an upgrade for those who want one, but I've reached the point where an upgrade has to be more than merely incremental for me to seriously consider it. Like Dark City DNRed-to-death Blu to Arrow UHD. Slightly more accurate color timing on its own isn't enough to motivate me these days.

[Captain Keen]

Looks like Movies Anywhere is updated, like Apple, but not Vudu/FAH. Lost World is also in Dolby Vision now, but JP3 isn’t.

I haven’t bought this yet, waiting for the price to go down or an individual release, so these are digital versions from the 5 disk 4K release from before.

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by TazerMonkey

That's not what I was saying. If the underlying master is different, it will of course look different. I was saying that if you take the exact same underlying master and watch it in both regular HDR10 and Dolby Vision, everything else being equal, it will look almost exactly, if not exactly, the same. Dolby Vision is mostly for marketing purposes, like "Hi-Res Audio" is for album releases. The important part is the mastering itself, not the format.

I thought you meant DV in this particular case of JP. Then again, the underlying master of JP has been improved, DV or not.

I’m not gonna debate you in regard to DV being mostly a marketing trick, as it’s pointless if you’ve made up your mind about it already, but just wanted to point out that it’s not all black and white here. I personally noticed a few instances when DV layer improved on the underlying master significantly. Not even talking about in-famous Studio Canal releases like The Doors, where DV improves on compression significantly, but if you look at the sun in the jungle in Platoon or, say, winter sun in Misery, you’ll see it’s a different story in HDR10 and DV.

[RYJAPE21]

Originally Posted by The Rider

Could you take a photo of the packaging, in Europe the packaging from Amazon is usually a shame.

I keep getting an error upload message for the photo, but it’s a small rectangle cardboard box.

[RYJAPE21]

Originally Posted by maverick22

Be sure to check for scratches on JP Lost World.

I have purchased 3, and they all have a good-sized scratch on the disc.

I checked my disc and see 2 small scratches. I’ll have to give it a spin soon to see if there’s playback issues.

[jpanimation]

Originally Posted by RYJAPE21

I just received my steelbook set from Amazon. Thankfully it was packaged well in a cardboard box (case is dent-free).

Was just about to post this. Came in a box with some crumpled paper but in perfect condition. This is like the third UHD I've ordered from them to come in a box and actually look like a human packed it. Too bad it won't last

That said, I hate the steel book packaging. Not only is it ugly but the disc holders scare me. TLW and JP3 came out with no problem but JP1 fought me. Took like 10 mins to make sure I didn't snap the disc in half. Probably just gonna put the new discs in the old set and throw out the steel book.

Took a quick look at the first disc. Looks good. Looks like the old disc with everything refined (color, contrast, processing), although I didn't do any comparisons. It appears to me that there's a slight crispness to it that makes it just feel more 4k and filmic. I'm happy with my purchase, as I'll watch it enough to get my money's worth, but non-super fans might want to wait for a hefty sale.

[maverick22]

Originally Posted by RYJAPE21

I checked my disc and see 2 small scratches. I’ll have to give it a spin soon to see if there’s playback issues.

Crazy - I don't know what's going on with it!

Good luck!

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by TazerMonkey

That's not what I was saying. If the underlying master is different, it will of course look different. I was saying that if you take the exact same underlying master and watch it in both regular HDR10 and Dolby Vision, everything else being equal, it will look almost exactly, if not exactly, the same. Dolby Vision is mostly for marketing purposes, like "Hi-Res Audio" is for album releases. The important part is the mastering itself, not the format.

Again, I'm glad there's an upgrade for those who want one, but I've reached the point where an upgrade has to be more than merely incremental for me to seriously consider it. Like Dark City DNRed-to-death Blu to Arrow UHD. Slightly more accurate color timing on its own isn't enough to motivate me these days.

I don't disagree that DV and HDR10 from the same master should look the same, all things being equal, but the state of HDR10 tone mapping and how it changes from manufacturer to manufacturer means that it's not equal, not all the time. I'm so grateful for DV on Sony stuff in particular because their Light Cannon™️ grades are too much for my TV in HDR10, and it peaks at 1800 nits!

DV's true 12-bit output when using the FEL system also provides smoother gradations, not "more" colour as such but betterer reproduction of it, not all the time but I've seen enough such improvements to make it worth defaulting to. FEL also has a totally unadvertised bonus of being able to fill in a poorly-compressed base layer which has rescued a ton of discs. Sure, if the HDR10 was encoded competently the DV would do nothing for it, but there's a lot of dreck still being farted out by certain studios and labels.

Again, won't disagree that with a completely level playing field re: the competency of tone mapping and compression to disc then DV would be superfluous, but until those things are as good as they can be across the board then DV is more than snake oil. It's still not a vast difference as it is, but those gains are worth it for me.

[StingingVelvet]

Good Geoffy post.

On my 1500 nit Mini-LED the main difference with DV is less banding. I don't really notice much else, aside from the discs where it fixes compression issues.

On a 700 nit OLED though...

[TazerMonkey]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

[Show spoiler]I don't disagree that DV and HDR10 from the same master should look the same, all things being equal, but the state of HDR10 tone mapping and how it changes from manufacturer to manufacturer means that it's not equal, not all the time. I'm so grateful for DV on Sony stuff in particular because their Light Cannon™️ grades are too much for my TV in HDR10, and it peaks at 1800 nits!

DV's true 12-bit output when using the FEL system also provides smoother gradations, not "more" colour as such but betterer reproduction of it, not all the time but I've seen enough such improvements to make it worth defaulting to. FEL also has a totally unadvertised bonus of being able to fill in a poorly-compressed base layer which has rescued a ton of discs. Sure, if the HDR10 was encoded competently the DV would do nothing for it, but there's a lot of dreck still being farted out by certain studios and labels.

Again, won't disagree that with a completely level playing field re: the competency of tone mapping and compression to disc then DV would be superfluous, but until those things are as good as they can be across the board then DV is more than snake oil. It's still not a vast difference as it is, but those gains are worth it for me.

There's isn't really anything I disagree with in this. My rather flippantly stated point was merely intended to be that the presence of Dolby Vision usually doesn't (or shouldn't) make or break a disc given the underlying master is of sufficient quality and a healthy encode. My ire was more intended towards those who refuse to buy a perfectly fine disc just because it doesn't have the heralded Dolby Vision, or that prefer a streaming encode over a UHD simply because it has the Dolby Vision flag.

[buckeye1]

After sampling a few scenes and especially the scene when TRex was attacking the kids in the SUV the Atmos came alive at least in my system. All 5.1.2 channels was alive and active, loud enough I had to turn it down so I wasn't bothering the wife. .lol. Also the DV makes it that much better and more the colors are more vibrant. I'll check out the others this weekend.

[Brayden96]

Personally I think Jurassic Park III is the second best movie out of six with the first one obviously the best.

Was rather disappointed with The Lost World considering it's Spielberg after all and think it's one of the weakest movies in the franchise and in his resume.

[cobrachris]

I have the set that came in 2018 with the first 4 movies. Evidently I never redeemed the digital codes but the sheet was still in the case. I went online to redeem them and was shocked that they still work. The first 2 are in Dolby Vision on Movies Anywhere so if you have the old codes laying around, they still work. Hopefully the 3rd one will be updated to DV as well.

[dtyndall]

Originally Posted by maverick22

Be sure to check for scratches on JP Lost World.

I have purchased 3, and they all have a good-sized scratch on the disc.

No scratches on my Lost World disc

[RalphoR]

I wasn't going to buy this (very glad I did and there is definitely a very nice uptick in both the video and audio) but now I got suckered in by it and ordered the JW steelie, too.