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Old 11-17-2017, 05:49 AM   #721
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Color and shadows comparison. I raised brightness for better visibility:

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I really love the new color balance. Non-UHD is too warm.
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:38 AM   #722
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Blu-ray (Mi4K upscaled) vs UHD Blu-ray (SDR, 180 nits)

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Old 11-17-2017, 11:29 AM   #723
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What is that supposed to suggest or indicate, exactly?

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Old 11-17-2017, 11:30 AM   #724
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This is going for £14.99 on Amazon, so went ahead and pulled the trigger.
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:38 AM   #725
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Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask but hoping to get some clear answers. I have been looking to add Dracula to my collection for a few years now. I do not have a 4K player but am region free for regular Blu ray.

Is the best option for the movie in terms of PQ and extras the Supreme Cinema release or is there a European disc out there that is even better?

Or does the regular Blu ray included with the 4K release offer any improvements?

Thank you in advance for anyone who can help me with this.
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #726
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What is that supposed to suggest or indicate, exactly?

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? the difference in detail between the latest Blu-ray and the new 4K UHD?

I don't get your question?
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Old 11-17-2017, 12:41 PM   #727
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? the difference in detail between the latest Blu-ray and the new 4K UHD?

I don't get your question?
Meaning that the new 4K looks sharper or more in reference to color temperature? I can't really see a thing through my phone.
Nevermind, for some reason I can't click on the bluray box to switch to bluray screenshot

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Old 11-17-2017, 04:45 PM   #728
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This is going for £14.99 on Amazon, so went ahead and pulled the trigger.
Likewise, for that price I felt i'd be a little stupid not to stick it in the basket..
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Old 11-17-2017, 05:43 PM   #729
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Me too. Zoom let me down on this, ordered on Tuesday and they still haven't posted, so have gone with Amazon at the better price!
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Old 11-18-2017, 04:18 AM   #730
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? the difference in detail between the latest Blu-ray and the new 4K UHD?

I don't get your question?
SDR converted pics don't really display that though.
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Old 11-18-2017, 06:52 AM   #731
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They do show the extra raw detail, just not the full image. Like the difference in brightness between those two caps, it's impossible to judge if that's on the 4K disc or due to the conversion to SDR by caps alone. Which is why it's helpful the poster has posted the target luminance used as well for those that can see that number and understand it, though I don't quite understand this bit myself yet.
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Old 11-18-2017, 08:41 PM   #732
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HDR can be essential in seeing the added detail though, I learned this the hard way. I get that people don't make that link, I didn't either until I saw it for myself, but it is there.
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Old 11-18-2017, 08:50 PM   #733
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Highlight detail, yes. Spatial resolution, ehhhhh not so much. Those pics demonstrate my initial thoughts on it - when I A/B'd it to the Mi4K Blu-ray - down to a 'T': the 4K pass adds finer grain and the merest smidgeon of extra resolution, looking fine in and of itself but upon comparison (both here AND when viewing in motion) it's simply not some kind of astonishing night and day difference to my eyes.
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:08 PM   #734
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I think the movie varies a large amount in how detailed it looks due to the effects and lighting used to capture it. In scenes like the chapter stop where Ryder is writing and looking at the kama sutra book you can see a great leap in detail, IMO, but in other scenes like the heavily effects driven opening not so much.
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:04 AM   #735
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This is the only 4K release I have seen so far that looks completely natural. What else is on this level?
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:46 AM   #736
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This is the only 4K release I have seen so far that looks completely natural. What else is on this level?
Leon: The Professional. It's even better.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:15 AM   #737
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This is the only 4K release I have seen so far that looks completely natural. What else is on this level?
Pretty much every single Sony catalog release IMO, plus E.T. and Unforgiven. Most real film catalog stuff other than Bourne look great.
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:31 AM   #738
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Had a look at this now. My first proper* 4K title of a film made wholly on film.

Hells bells, the grain! That explains the moaning Amazon reviews. Shots with optical work don't really benefit in resolution, but the rest is nicely sharp. There's not a great deal that seems to benefit from HDR on first glance, but every so often you get a light source that glows with an intensity SDR can't maintain. Dracula's green mist appearance has a vibrancy you don't realise is lost in SDR until you see it in HDR. The end of the film with the sunrise in exaggerated tones is even more atmospheric with a richer glow. That's only from flicking through the chapter points, I haven't viewed it all yet. I'm particularly keen to see how Dracula's castle looks in it's entirety.

*Dawn of the Dead 4K doesn't count cos it's so bad an implementation of 4K UHD.
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Arrived in the post today and scanned the first 5 or so minutes. Sony are really nailing it with their catalogue remasters, I think I last watched this on VHS so yeah this is on extremely beautiful upscale for sure...oh and that organic grain is all
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