Westworld: Season One 4K UHD (2016)

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I just bought it for $32.99 on Amazon. Now I'll have return the $45.00 one I bought last week at Best Buy.

Basically unless it's really marked down (like this and Cabin in the Woods was for $7.99 for a short time), I really shouldn't be spending anything until BF hits.

I believe Target can be used a price match too.

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Rocky is just being a DV fanboy, which is fairly harmless. His previous HDR10 set was so bad, that any OLED will make DV seem insanely better by comparison. So he likes to gush about it.

But Heat's posts are relentless and over the top. I think it's beyond being a HDR10+ fanboy, he posts like he's getting paid to promote it. I don't mind his points of view, it's the relentlessness of it and his trolling nature that bugs me.

They're both awful.

Heat, for the reasons you mentioned. That, and he also misquotes people and twists the context of what they're saying to fuel the fire of his narrative.

Rocky, though, beyond just HDR... just posts the most inane shit I've seen from any user on this forum in recent memory. Like, who would actually want to watch a Michael Bay directed 'Westworld'?

My complaints of the last couple episodes notwithstanding, the first season was absolutely excellent.

[legends of beyond]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I love him even more now he's been suspendered yet again. Him and HeatEquation both on time outs, enjoy it while you can folks!

First I've heard of it, time for some vacation time.

[legends of beyond]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Rocky, though, beyond just HDR... just posts the most inane shit I've seen from any user on this forum in recent memory. Like, who would actually want to watch a Michael Bay directed Westworld?

Morbid Curiosity?

Edit: Nah, not even then.

[the_sextein]

I know each panel will display things differently but on mine there is a noticeable difference between the 4k HDR presentation and the standard blu ray. Bright lights are brighter and shadows are deeper. The light in the intro sequence is more illuminating and the paper on the piano is more white. The entire tone of the sunshine looks more warm and golden. Film grain is more noticeable and with it comes a new layer of fine detail on clothes and skin. The sky has a more realistic brightness to it that tells me I am seeing HDR in action. Some shadows are darker and that can make the image borderline crushing in a few rare shots but all detail is present just a little darker and shadow detail is bolstered with noticeably more variations of dark color in the night. Also on wide camera pans the fine detail is more clear in motion as a result of bolstered highlights and resolution. The sun highlights on characters hair is obviously punched up a notch. All of this is noticeable in the first 5 minutes of comparing the two versions of the film on my screen. The Dolby Atmos is also noticeably more punchy and the entire sound of the show feels opened up.

Personally I don't see how watching a blu ray on standard mode could possibly look the same as watching an HDR show on your TV's HDR settings. HDD and AVS both mentioned a noticeable up tick in quality on the 4K disc with HDR in their reviews. Can't say I agree with the review here on this site. That being said, I do agree that HBO should go all out and make season 2 a native 4K show in the hopes of seeing a more pronounced difference in overall detail.

[ferocious_beast]

Can someone tell me what the inside case (holding discs) of the 4k tin is like?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by ferocious_beast

Can someone tell me what the inside case (holding discs) of the 4k tin is like?

Non stacked, multi-disc flipper "pages" like the older Blu-ray cases, but in black.

[madfloyd]

Originally Posted by the_sextein

Personally I don't see how watching a blu ray on standard mode could possibly look the same as watching an HDR show on your TV's HDR settings. HDD and AVS both mentioned a noticeable up tick in quality on the 4K disc with HDR in their reviews. Can't say I agree with the review here on this site. That being said, I do agree that HBO should go all out and make season 2 a native 4K show in the hopes of seeing a more pronounced difference in overall detail.

I agree they look very different - VASTLY different. This is not one of those releases where people will say they can't tell the difference (otherwise something is wrong with their eyes or their gear).

Different doesn't always mean better though. To me this is one of the very rare cases where I will prefer the SDR version. Obviously this is subjective but I don't like the way it was color graded. It's like trying to have a conversation with someone when the sun is right behind them.

[the_sextein]

Your comment about having a conversation with someone when the sun is right behind them is relatable. Personally, I prefer the HDR 4k version for the added colors and extra detail but some of the shots when the sun is setting does make the faces of characters cast in shadow less defined. Overall, I think the majority of the extra detail that I am seeing is a result of HDR and not from increased resolution. I would think a 4K master instead of a 2K upscale would bring about a higher level of precision and pop separate from what HDR is doing now. The higher level of detail would be more obvious and would not rely on each panel's HDR capabilities in order to show it. Weather or not they master season 2 in 4K or not probably comes down to how profitable season one is since it costs more money to do things natively at 4K.

[evoll]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

Both of them represent the worst parts of the whole HDR thing. They both should be perma-banned at this point. As soon as you see their name show up in a thread, you know it's being derailed.

Does the same thing on the av forum's but under the name Roku2. Asks questions which he knows the answers to so he can lead you into a argument plus all the dv being better than hdr.

[FilmBufffff]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Non stacked, multi-disc flipper "pages" like the older Blu-ray cases, but in black.

In other words... freaking glorious! The only thing that could make it better is a slip.

[i_max2k2]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I just bought it for $32.99 on Amazon. Now I'll have return the $45.00 one I bought last week at Best Buy.

Basically unless it's really marked down (like this and Cabin in the Woods was for $7.99 for a short time), I really shouldn't be spending anything until BF hits.

I was about to do this, but PM'd target, which worked out just fine, fortunately didn't have to go through that hassle.

[theace69]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Any one not get a digital copy code? I have the booklet and the episode guide, but no DC.

Contact Flixster support. They'll get you sorted out. You'll have to take pictures of your front and back covers and receipt but they'll add it UHD into your UV locker.

[azmodeous]

Originally Posted by the_sextein

I know each panel will display things differently but on mine there is a noticeable difference between the 4k HDR presentation and the standard blu ray. Bright lights are brighter and shadows are deeper. The light in the intro sequence is more illuminating and the paper on the piano is more white. The entire tone of the sunshine looks more warm and golden. Film grain is more noticeable and with it comes a new layer of fine detail on clothes and skin. The sky has a more realistic brightness to it that tells me I am seeing HDR in action. Some shadows are darker and that can make the image borderline crushing in a few rare shots but all detail is present just a little darker and shadow detail is bolstered with noticeably more variations of dark color in the night. Also on wide camera pans the fine detail is more clear in motion as a result of bolstered highlights and resolution. The sun highlights on characters hair is obviously punched up a notch. All of this is noticeable in the first 5 minutes of comparing the two versions of the film on my screen. The Dolby Atmos is also noticeably more punchy and the entire sound of the show feels opened up.

Personally I don't see how watching a blu ray on standard mode could possibly look the same as watching an HDR show on your TV's HDR settings. HDD and AVS both mentioned a noticeable up tick in quality on the 4K disc with HDR in their reviews. Can't say I agree with the review here on this site. That being said, I do agree that HBO should go all out and make season 2 a native 4K show in the hopes of seeing a more pronounced difference in overall detail.

Yeah, I really disagree with the review on this site. I did a back and forth comparison on the first episode for a few scenes and even with me only having the ability to play this in HDR 10 the difference is highly noticeable.

[cascade 15]

Originally Posted by Old Bones

After reading the 4K review Im not sure it's worth the 4K price over the BD

There is an inversion of prices in which the HDR 4K version (that includes the Blu-rays, so a total of 6 discs) is cheaper than either the straight Blu-ray or DVD versions via Amazon. But that could change.

[zmarty]

It seems the review on this website agrees with me.

However, I disagree about choosing Blu-Ray over 4K. It's 4K or nothing for me, just for the bitrate differences alone.

As discussed in the standard Blu-ray review, Westworld's cinematography was widely covered in industry publications, because the show is among the increasingly rare projects shot on film. However, post-production was performed digitally at 2K, and the UHD discs are the result of an up-conversion that has added no additional detail and not even the refinements in sharpness that we sometimes see with 4K conversions of 2K sources. The HDR encoding is modest and restrained, leaving the original source's colors largely unchanged, except for tiny improvements in gradation that are sometimes evident in such scenes as the long vistas of mountainous Utah landscape. If one compares the UHD image to the standard Blu-ray, the former is a touch brighter, but overall Westworld's presentations in 4K and 1080p are so close that I am hard-pressed to recommend the additional investment for the UHD version. While working on these reviews, I not only compared specific scenes, but I also alternated watching entire episodes between UHD and standard Blu-ray. When "falling back" to the Blu-ray, I never felt like I was giving up something, and in switching to the UHD, I never felt like I was seeing the series' stylish photography in a new light. Leaving aside the audio differences discussed below, I could have been watching the same format throughout.

[rockaway1836]

Originally Posted by cascade 15

There is an inversion of prices in which the HDR 4K version (that includes the Blu-rays, so a total of 6 discs) is cheaper than either the straight Blu-ray or DVD versions via Amazon. But that could change.

It was the same in Target today

[imsounoriginal]

I dunno why y'all still trust site reviews... certain forum users have proven themselves to be FAR more reliable than any site reviews will probably ever be.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by rockaway1836

It was the same in Target today

I saw it as well.

[rockaway1836]

Originally Posted by zmarty

It seems the review on this website agrees with me.

However, I disagree about choosing Blu-Ray over 4K. It's 4K or nothing for me, just for the bitrate differences alone.

I was doing some comparisons today, and in fact still am. Watching on a Vizo P series with an Oppo for DV , then the regular BD on a Sony which is a pre-HDR set via a Samsung 4K up-converting player, then a TCL P series via a Samsung 4K player for HDR10, and finally, the regular BD on a standard 1080p Samsung player with a 1080p Sharp

For my money it's too close to call for HDR10 vs DV, with the up-converted BD more than holding it's own, but coming in 3rd. Far behind is the 1080p BD via 1080p Sharp TV