So anyone think it's still 'too early' to buy into Blu-ray? - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

boxterduke · 02-08-2010, 04:17 PM

10 Things I hate About You is a waste of a bluray.

If you sister is interested in these kind of movies, then maybe bluray is not for her.

That is just my opinion, since I only buy movies that I deem worth it on bluray.

Dark knight, Hulk 2, Iron Man, check my collection and you will get the jest of what I consider bluray worthy.
Comedies and chick flicks, I can watch on DVD and could not care less.

Some people don't care about quality that is why there is tons of movie downloading. People even stream movies just so they don't "waste" money on movies. I see their point. Check the blind buy thread, and see how much money is wasted on movies. There is a lot of garbage out there that we should not waste our money on.
I buy movies I like and if I want to see a movie that I know nothing about then I rent it.

So while your question is valid and lots of people will relate to it (people who don't care about PQ/AQ/money issues/people that say buying movies and music is a bad investment/etc...)
Asking it on blu-ray.com would not get you the answer you wanted to hear.

surfdude12 · 02-08-2010, 04:21 PM

i did the same thing as the OP: bought my sister a blu-ray player and she hasnt bought any.

i don't think she's bought them because of the timing of the format, but instead b/c she just doesn't care about blu-ray as much as we all do (shocker, yes, there are people like that out there). in hindsight, i would have bought her a kindle or something i know she'd use.

Sokvichet · 02-08-2010, 07:10 PM

I bought my first BD player for Christmas (PS3). I've had it up and running almost nonstop for 2 months. I am also the guy that waited several years to buy his first DVD player to make sure the tech would stay around. I absolutely believe that Blu-ray is here for the long haul, as evidenced by my collection of 80 movies (I'm a compulsive collector but even so, a rate of 40 movies a month is unsustainable. LOL).

I will always love my DVD collection (almost 95% are imports), but HD is just too beautiful to miss out on.

zachd73 · 02-08-2010, 07:38 PM

This would probably be a better, or more interesting question if it weren't simply a matter of a yes or no opinion...

It would be interesting to see numbers and to know just how many people have adopted BD and how many potentially WILL adopt BD. Or what % of homes it will eventually occupy. The latest info I could find said 17 million players in homes in the USA. How many DVD players are in homes now? Will BD ever reach that number?

Also, maybe it should be phrased, what can YOU do to make that number go up. As you guys found buying one for your sister might be a waste. But showing off your system to friends and co-workers is probably a good way to get some people to buy a blu-ray player.

I think think this Xmas will see a lot of people buying their first blu-ray player. They will be $100 and maybe under hopefully. Maybe there will be some added features like netflix or hulu streaming on players under $150 as I think people are starting to take note of these types of added features.

They need to bring down the prices of BD (obviously). Especially for rentals. My locals stores rent them for $4 or $5 which is twice what a SD disc costs to rent.

Titles - they need a lot more titles, the selection currently sucks ass. But I've said that on here from time to time for the past few years. I looked at my collection the other day to see if there was any DVDs I could get rid of and there were only 3 or 4 out of 100 that a BD has been released for.

It seems like the studios should speed up releasing titles now that BD adoption seems to have a lot of momentum. Don't see why they don't release a bare-bones version first and a full-features version later (if that is what is holding them up - really why don't they release more titles?)

It also doesn't seem like backwards compatibility is a compelling reason to buy a new piece of hardware. Super Audio CD was backwards compatible with CD but people did not perceive the need to have something better than CD so they didn't buy in to it. BD is just enough of an improvement though that I think people with HD sets can justify it once they see the difference.

My short answer would be NO, but this Christmas will be the time for the masses to buy in to BD.

Chiyo_chichi · 02-08-2010, 07:46 PM

In the grand scheme of things, yeah, its still early. Movies like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Alien Quad, a billion Disney movies, tons TV series and foreign titles (US releases), and countless of fan favorites are not yet available on the format.

That said, theres plenty of fantastic material on bluray already, enough that I certainly feel justified in the purchase of my player. The format grows bigger and better every year. Movies that initially got flubbed in early release like Gangs/NewYork and Fifth Element are being reissued and more and more reference material discs are being released as well.

Even now bluray is worth it for owning modern movies like Star Trek and UP which take full advantage of the format and are head and shoulders above dvd.

So I say now is as good as any time

howarmat · 02-08-2010, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachd73

This would probably be a better, or more interesting question if it weren't simply a matter of a yes or no opinion...

It would be interesting to see numbers and to know just how many people have adopted BD and how many potentially WILL adopt BD. Or what % of homes it will eventually occupy. The latest info I could find said 17 million players in homes in the USA. How many DVD players are in homes now? Will BD ever reach that number?

Also, maybe it should be phrased, what can YOU do to make that number go up. As you guys found buying one for your sister might be a waste. But showing off your system to friends and co-workers is probably a good way to get some people to buy a blu-ray player.

I think think this Xmas will see a lot of people buying their first blu-ray player. They will be $100 and maybe under hopefully. Maybe there will be some added features like netflix or hulu streaming on players under $150 as I think people are starting to take note of these types of added features.

They need to bring down the prices of BD (obviously). Especially for rentals. My locals stores rent them for $4 or $5 which is twice what a SD disc costs to rent.

Titles - they need a lot more titles, the selection currently sucks ass. But I've said that on here from time to time for the past few years. I looked at my collection the other day to see if there was any DVDs I could get rid of and there were only 3 or 4 out of 100 that a BD has been released for.

It seems like the studios should speed up releasing titles now that BD adoption seems to have a lot of momentum. Don't see why they don't release a bare-bones version first and a full-features version later (if that is what is holding them up - really why don't they release more titles?)

It also doesn't seem like backwards compatibility is a compelling reason to buy a new piece of hardware. Super Audio CD was backwards compatible with CD but people did not perceive the need to have something better than CD so they didn't buy in to it. BD is just enough of an improvement though that I think people with HD sets can justify it once they see the difference.

My short answer would be NO, but this Christmas will be the time for the masses to buy in to BD.

how can you say

6AM · 02-08-2010, 07:49 PM

If you have a high def TV I don't think there is any reason not to get a BD player.

If you're going to purchase a movie, it should be on BD at this point. If you only rent or even if you don't buy any or many BD's, I've found that my BD player up-converts far better than my DVD player. Either way, you're better off.

Lucy Diamond · 02-08-2010, 08:00 PM

I think I joined the BluWorldOrder 3 years ago now???

When was the fourth season of the O.C.?? There was an episode on the day after I bought my first player where a girl says "There is a bevy of Blu-ray anime."

Yeah...then.

ascendedcobra · 02-08-2010, 08:53 PM

Nah it doesnt bother me one bit,actually I like it.It makes me feel like I got some super advanced gear. The only time it bothers me is when I stay at their places and they want to rent a new release in sd or even worse a bootleg.

ChadFL · 02-08-2010, 09:13 PM

If I were President my #1 issue would be ensuring that every household in America has at least one HDTV and one Blu-Ray 1080P player. Addressing jobs and healthcare would have to wait.

ascendedcobra · 02-08-2010, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6AM

If you have a high def TV I don't think there is any reason not to get a BD player.

If you're going to purchase a movie, it should be on BD at this point. If you only rent or even if you don't buy any or many BD's, I've found that my BD player up-converts far better than my DVD player. Either way, you're better off.

I have friends that have paid over 1k for their hdtv but still get bootlegs and run them on a cheap dvd player.They think its great to see a movie while its still in the theater. One even asked me if I wanted a copy of Avatar.I said hell no I dont even know if I want to see that on bluray after seeing it in Imax 3d. I sure as hell dont want to watch that in sub dvd quality.I saw a trailer of Avatar in sd and it looked terrible. I asked my friend way pay all that monety for an hd display then watch crappy bootlegs? I would rather wait a year or not even see some of them at all.

seeweda · 02-08-2010, 09:28 PM

I think by the end of this year it will be time for almost everyone to enter the Blu-ray market as a lot of the major movies will be released this year or early next. I am also sure Wal-mart will have a basic player for around or under $50 for the holidays as they currently have one for $68.

drtre81 · 02-08-2010, 09:31 PM

introduce your sister to amazon.com

blurayjunkie · 02-08-2010, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

It is time to get into Blu-ray simply because it is foolish to waste money on inferior dvds at this point. Why spend almost the same money for a format that has no resale value and that looks and sounds much worse?

Why spend any money at all when you can download any movie you want for free??

Vicon · 02-08-2010, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blurayjunkie

Why spend any money at all when you can download any movie you want for free??

It's not free and talk like that will get you spanked.

42041 · 02-08-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blurayjunkie

Why spend any money at all when you can download any movie you want for free??

A question I often ponder when I get retail discs with worse compression jobs than what the pirate groups can do with an open source AVC encoder that some random internet people put together, and source content that's already compressed

Grand Bob · 02-08-2010, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Addressing jobs and healthcare would have to wait.

Your wish is granted.

blurayjunkie · 02-08-2010, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicon

It's not free and talk like that will get you spanked.

LOL, True but why I ask is alot of people think this way. witch may be one of the reasons they are holding off on blu-ray movies.

h0mi · 02-09-2010, 12:52 AM

Rogers bell curve suggests that Innovators are the first 2.5% of people who buy into a tech, and early adopters are the next 13.5%. Early Majority is the next 34%. We are not quite at the Early majority phase of blu-ray adoption (which should be when blu-ray is in 16% of households) but it's close... probably this year. So I would say it's no longer "too early" to buy blu-ray. The hardware is pretty good, backwards compatible and offers other attractive (netflix, etc.) so there's not much issues in terms of "investment" to worry about.

phatrat1982 · 02-24-2010, 11:18 PM

Well I was mostly asking from their perspective but I guess I should have re-worded the question but yeah as of now I'd say it's hard not to take a pro-Blu Ray stance now.

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02-08-2010, 04:17 PM	#61
boxterduke Power Member Member since:May 2009 Location:The Fissure of Woe Blu-ray collection:193 DVD collection:70 Trading Score:8	10 Things I hate About You is a waste of a bluray. If you sister is interested in these kind of movies, then maybe bluray is not for her. That is just my opinion, since I only buy movies that I deem worth it on bluray. Dark knight, Hulk 2, Iron Man, check my collection and you will get the jest of what I consider bluray worthy. Comedies and chick flicks, I can watch on DVD and could not care less. Some people don't care about quality that is why there is tons of movie downloading. People even stream movies just so they don't "waste" money on movies. I see their point. Check the blind buy thread, and see how much money is wasted on movies. There is a lot of garbage out there that we should not waste our money on. I buy movies I like and if I want to see a movie that I know nothing about then I rent it. So while your question is valid and lots of people will relate to it (people who don't care about PQ/AQ/money issues/people that say buying movies and music is a bad investment/etc...) Asking it on blu-ray.com would not get you the answer you wanted to hear.

02-08-2010, 04:21 PM	#62
surfdude12 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Club Loop Blu-ray collection:343 Blu-ray reviews:112 Trading Score:1	i did the same thing as the OP: bought my sister a blu-ray player and she hasnt bought any. i don't think she's bought them because of the timing of the format, but instead b/c she just doesn't care about blu-ray as much as we all do (shocker, yes, there are people like that out there). in hindsight, i would have bought her a kindle or something i know she'd use.

02-08-2010, 07:10 PM	#63
Sokvichet Junior Member Member since:Jan 2010	I bought my first BD player for Christmas (PS3). I've had it up and running almost nonstop for 2 months. I am also the guy that waited several years to buy his first DVD player to make sure the tech would stay around. I absolutely believe that Blu-ray is here for the long haul, as evidenced by my collection of 80 movies (I'm a compulsive collector but even so, a rate of 40 movies a month is unsustainable. LOL). I will always love my DVD collection (almost 95% are imports), but HD is just too beautiful to miss out on.

02-08-2010, 07:38 PM	#64
zachd73 Active Member Member since:Jan 2009	This would probably be a better, or more interesting question if it weren't simply a matter of a yes or no opinion... It would be interesting to see numbers and to know just how many people have adopted BD and how many potentially WILL adopt BD. Or what % of homes it will eventually occupy. The latest info I could find said 17 million players in homes in the USA. How many DVD players are in homes now? Will BD ever reach that number? Also, maybe it should be phrased, what can YOU do to make that number go up. As you guys found buying one for your sister might be a waste. But showing off your system to friends and co-workers is probably a good way to get some people to buy a blu-ray player. I think think this Xmas will see a lot of people buying their first blu-ray player. They will be $100 and maybe under hopefully. Maybe there will be some added features like netflix or hulu streaming on players under $150 as I think people are starting to take note of these types of added features. They need to bring down the prices of BD (obviously). Especially for rentals. My locals stores rent them for $4 or $5 which is twice what a SD disc costs to rent. Titles - they need a lot more titles, the selection currently sucks ass. But I've said that on here from time to time for the past few years. I looked at my collection the other day to see if there was any DVDs I could get rid of and there were only 3 or 4 out of 100 that a BD has been released for. It seems like the studios should speed up releasing titles now that BD adoption seems to have a lot of momentum. Don't see why they don't release a bare-bones version first and a full-features version later (if that is what is holding them up - really why don't they release more titles?) It also doesn't seem like backwards compatibility is a compelling reason to buy a new piece of hardware. Super Audio CD was backwards compatible with CD but people did not perceive the need to have something better than CD so they didn't buy in to it. BD is just enough of an improvement though that I think people with HD sets can justify it once they see the difference. My short answer would be NO, but this Christmas will be the time for the masses to buy in to BD.

02-08-2010, 07:46 PM	#65
Chiyo_chichi Power Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Bayonne, NJ, USA Blu-ray collection:40	In the grand scheme of things, yeah, its still early. Movies like Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Alien Quad, a billion Disney movies, tons TV series and foreign titles (US releases), and countless of fan favorites are not yet available on the format. That said, theres plenty of fantastic material on bluray already, enough that I certainly feel justified in the purchase of my player. The format grows bigger and better every year. Movies that initially got flubbed in early release like Gangs/NewYork and Fifth Element are being reissued and more and more reference material discs are being released as well. Even now bluray is worth it for owning modern movies like Star Trek and UP which take full advantage of the format and are head and shoulders above dvd. So I say now is as good as any time

02-08-2010, 07:49 PM	#67
6AM Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Buffalo, NY 4K collection:221 Blu-ray collection:588 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	If you have a high def TV I don't think there is any reason not to get a BD player. If you're going to purchase a movie, it should be on BD at this point. If you only rent or even if you don't buy any or many BD's, I've found that my BD player up-converts far better than my DVD player. Either way, you're better off.

02-08-2010, 08:00 PM	#68
Lucy Diamond Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:The Tomb of Annihilation 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:3	I think I joined the BluWorldOrder 3 years ago now??? When was the fourth season of the O.C.?? There was an episode on the day after I bought my first player where a girl says "There is a bevy of Blu-ray anime." Yeah...then.

02-08-2010, 08:53 PM	#69
ascendedcobra Active Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:teh desert Blu-ray collection:146 Blu-ray reviews:12	Nah it doesnt bother me one bit,actually I like it.It makes me feel like I got some super advanced gear. The only time it bothers me is when I stay at their places and they want to rent a new release in sd or even worse a bootleg.

02-08-2010, 09:13 PM	#70
ChadFL Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Daytona Beach, FL Blu-ray collection:556 DVD collection:5	If I were President my #1 issue would be ensuring that every household in America has at least one HDTV and one Blu-Ray 1080P player. Addressing jobs and healthcare would have to wait.

02-08-2010, 09:28 PM	#72
seeweda Special Member Member since:Jun 2009 Blu-ray collection:302 Trading Score:6	I think by the end of this year it will be time for almost everyone to enter the Blu-ray market as a lot of the major movies will be released this year or early next. I am also sure Wal-mart will have a basic player for around or under $50 for the holidays as they currently have one for $68.

02-08-2010, 09:31 PM	#73
drtre81 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:110	introduce your sister to amazon.com

02-09-2010, 12:52 AM	#79
h0mi Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:98	Rogers bell curve suggests that Innovators are the first 2.5% of people who buy into a tech, and early adopters are the next 13.5%. Early Majority is the next 34%. We are not quite at the Early majority phase of blu-ray adoption (which should be when blu-ray is in 16% of households) but it's close... probably this year. So I would say it's no longer "too early" to buy blu-ray. The hardware is pretty good, backwards compatible and offers other attractive (netflix, etc.) so there's not much issues in terms of "investment" to worry about.

02-24-2010, 11:18 PM	#80
phatrat1982 Banned Member since:Jul 2009 Location:I move around too much to keep this accurate Blu-ray reviews:1	Well I was mostly asking from their perspective but I guess I should have re-worded the question but yeah as of now I'd say it's hard not to take a pro-Blu Ray stance now.

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