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Old 04-22-2015, 01:52 PM   #61
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The Fugitive's first BD release is pretty bad but I still haven't picked up the remastered disc yet. Heat's BD is way better so unless there's some really substantial new bonuses I doubt I'll be springing for this reissue.
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Old 04-22-2015, 01:58 PM   #62
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The Fugitive's first BD release is pretty bad but I still haven't picked up the remastered disc yet. Heat's BD is way better so unless there's some really substantial new bonuses I doubt I'll be springing for this reissue.
The Heat BD looks better than The Fugitive (remastered or not) BD. I don't see anything wrong with it, other than the possible color tampering.

The comment that the blu ray of Heat doesn't look better than the DVD probably ranks #1 on the list of dumbest things I've ever read on this forum.
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Old 04-22-2015, 02:02 PM   #63
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The Heat BD looks better than The Fugitive (remastered or not) BD. I don't see anything wrong with it, other than the possible color tampering.

The comment that the blu ray of Heat doesn't look better than the DVD probably ranks #1 on the list of dumbest things I've ever read on this forum.
Yup, very happy with the Heat BD. Can't believe someone thought it didn't look better than the DVD
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Old 04-22-2015, 02:06 PM   #64
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I've heard "I can't hear the dialog!" complaints about damn near every disc out there. It's especially common on my Doctor Who and Star Trek fan forums, where (mostly older) fans constantly complain they can't hear the dialog through the music.

I think it's just a hearing loss issue. Most people don't realize they have hearing loss.
It's not about volume, it's about the remix.
The dynamic range is all over the place.
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Old 04-22-2015, 02:17 PM   #65
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I didn't see this discussed...but one of the reasons to buy this flick is that, beyond being a great movie, Ashley Judd is so damn fine to look at it's not funny.
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Old 04-22-2015, 02:33 PM   #66
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I think it's just a hearing loss issue. Most people don't realize they have hearing loss.
True. I had a hearing test done last year as I developed some ear ringing (Tinnitus) and was surprised at my hearing loss which was somewhat moderate actually. I really don't have any big issues hearing people or even with movies although sometimes dialogues can seem a little low. This is when I wonder if it's the mix or my ears (or both). A lot of home theater/music enthusiasts probably have hearing loss from years of blasting their systems. I try not to exceed 85 db or so these days having measured with a sound meter certain peaks in movies (explosions, guns, etc.).
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Old 04-22-2015, 06:03 PM   #67
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This is the best movie and I don't own it yet and happy to pick up 20th Anniversary Edition.
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HEAT: Now including the three-second-longer theatrical version!
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:03 PM   #69
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The transfer for the first blu-ray edition is a freaking disgrace.

Never really felt that passionately about a transfer before.

...wouldn't bother with this unless it's remastered.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:08 PM   #70
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The transfer for the first blu-ray edition is a freaking disgrace.

Never really felt that passionately about a transfer before.

...wouldn't bother with this unless it's remastered.
I like hyperbole too.

As for the audio, it's how Mann likes it. It's the same for Miami Vice.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:10 PM   #71
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I like hyperbole too.

As for the audio, it's how Mann likes it. It's the same for Miami Vice.
One man's hyperbole is another man's truth.

As far as the audio, if that's how Mann likes it, then he's needs to get his ears checked immediately.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:11 PM   #72
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The transfer for the first blu-ray edition is a freaking disgrace.

Never really felt that passionately about a transfer before.

...wouldn't bother with this unless it's remastered.
One of the silliest comments I've read on here in a long time. And I've read some whoppers before.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:12 PM   #73
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One of the silliest comments I've read on here in a long time. And I've read some whoppers before.
How exactly is that silly?
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:14 PM   #74
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How exactly is that silly?
Because there is very little wrong with the video transfer of this disc.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:16 PM   #75
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Because there is very little wrong with the video transfer of this disc.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

But it's been pretty well established that many, many people would disagree with you.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:18 PM   #76
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That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.

But it's been pretty well established that many, many people would disagree with you.
Actually it's not well established. See comments above from multiple posters.
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Actually it's not well established. See comments above from multiple posters.
It's not a zero-sum game.

I could find just as many, if not more comments all over the Internet of those who hate the transfer.

...that's just a fact.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:23 PM   #78
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Heat is a great movie!
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:23 PM   #79
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The video is ok, the sound mix is the issue.
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Old 04-22-2015, 07:29 PM   #80
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It's not a zero-sum game.

I could find just as many, if not more comments all over the Internet of those who hate the transfer.

...that's just a fact.
Then let me hear your facts.

What are the factual deficiencies this transfer suffers from? What factual short comings could you point to that make this one of the worst transfers out there that make this one a disgrace?
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