Prophecy (1979) coming from Scream Factory

[Bobbyjoe766]

Originally Posted by THUNDERSTRUCK

1979 was a pretty good year for horror.

Alien
Amityville Horror
Don't Go In The House
Phantasm
Prophecy
When A Stranger Calls

Love The Brood and Salem’s Lot.

[THUNDERSTRUCK]

1979 was a pretty good year for horror.

Alien
Amityville Horror, The
Brood, The
Don't Go In The House
Dracula
Nightwing
Nosferatu
Phantasm
Prophecy
Salem's Lot
Tourist Trap
When A Stranger Calls

[agenda]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

Sign up for AMC A-List.

I don't even know what that is?

[JMDiaz718]

Originally Posted by agenda

I don't even know what that is?

Shame! Shame!

[agenda]

Originally Posted by JMDiaz718

Shame! Shame!

That really won't help spreading the knowledge from it. Well, what is it for christ sake?

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by The Geek

Honestly this is one of my absolute favorites of all time. I adore that mutated grizzly bear.

Oh and this scene...this scene right here...is GOLD

only to be out done by Jason in Friday the 13th Part 7, where one unfortunate victim gets twacked against a tree whilst in a sleeping bag - but y'all know that - I'm preaching to the choir here.

the scene in Prophecy is so funny because the kid pops like an exploding pillow.

[blackadder213]

That movie poster creeped me out big time as a kid.

[Vixen of the Night]

Originally Posted by Rockercub

Even a remake could be cool. They're pretty hit and miss with me, but this is one that would definitely benefit from improved special effects.

While I like the movie. It is ripe for a remake/satire that still has the heavy handed message, but has fun with the material.

[Show spoiler] Since soulless greedy corporations and over-zealous environmentalists could be made light of as nature destroys them both.

I picture the opening credits featuring "We Care A Lot" by Faith No More to set the mood, and a somber ending with "What Are We Gonna Do?" by Dramarama over the end credits. I picture the ending dealing with the possibly mutant human baby being born that is not fully explored in Prophecy and the dilemma of the mother once giving birth to the monster. "That's not my baby!" she screams and then maternal instincts kick in, pause, fade to black.

I'd title it "It's A Monster Movie!".

[1234567?]

Originally Posted by agenda

I would absolutely LOVE to see something, anything from sfx group with Kevin Peter Hall. That would be something since I've never ever seen anything from there at this movie, and Kevin happens to be one of my all time heroes behind the mask(s).

Also, I wonder if Shout! is about to re-create the poster, and if so, who's going to do the alternative cover? I do love the original, and that one is very hard to beat.

Thank you. Yes The Great Kevin Peter Hall was the Bear. Well I call it inside out bear. I'm a huge fan of Kevin. He's also the Monster in Monster in The Closet. This will be day one. Hoping for a Collector's Edition. Absolute favorite. Love everything about it. That Bear thing was scary AF watching when I was little

Do we know if it's getting a collectors edition already?

Fun fact the script or story was a lot more gruesome. The Dad and kids scene was brutal on paper.

[Show spoiler]It's similar to the film, the girl awakens to the monster bear literally eating her parents while they slept. Biting off their heads. She awoke to the sound of crushing bone. Nasty.

Also huge spoiler

[Show spoiler] the vary end where we see there's another Monster bear. In the script it was a park ranger up on one of those stations high on stilts who was drinking and happens to see the second monster bear walking threw the woods at the end. This one was supposed to be all fleshy and even bigger. After he see's it he looks at the bottle of booze and blames it on that. So it goes unreported lol. Perfect set up for a sequel.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by blackadder213

That movie poster creeped me out big time as a kid.

totally agree, the one sheet poster for "It's Alive" was also super creepy

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by agenda

I don't even know what that is?

AMC Theaters' subscription service. For $25 / month, you can see up to three movies a week, including premium formats like Imax and Dolby. So, if you were to max it out and see the full 12 movies / month alotted, you'd be hitting that ~$2.00 / ticket price point you were reminiscing about. You also get discounts / upgrades on concessions. If you live near an AMC, it's an amazing value.

Originally Posted by Vixen of the Night

While I like the movie. It is ripe for a remake/satire that still has the heavy handed message, but has fun with the material.

[Show spoiler] Since soulless greedy corporations and over-zealous environmentalists could be made light of as nature destroys them both.

I picture the opening credits featuring "We Care A Lot" by Faith No More to set the mood, and a somber ending with "What Are We Gonna Do?" by Dramarama over the end credits. I picture the ending dealing with the possibly mutant human baby being born that is not fully explored in Prophecy and the dilemma of the mother once giving birth to the monster. "That's not my baby!" she screams and then maternal instincts kick in, pause, fade to black.

I'd title it "It's A Monster Movie!".

No thanks. One of the great things about '70s movies like Prophecy is the seriousness with which they treat the subject matter. The parable of the story, its theme, is lost if you make it a comedy. And if you think it's already a comedy just because it has a giant mutant bear in it, that's on you.

Though, your ending sounds like a direct lead-in to an It's Alive remake. It's the '70s Monster Movie Remake Cinematic Universe!

Originally Posted by 1234567?

Thank you. Yes The Great Kevin Peter Hall was the Bear. Well I call it inside out bear. I'm a huge fan of Kevin. He's also the Monster in Monster in The Closet. ...

A Shout! retrospective featurette on his career would be most welcome. He's best-known for Predator and Harry and the Hendersons, but he had a lot of roles we could learn more about.

P.S. Proofread your sig.

[JohnCarpenterLives]

Originally Posted by 1234567?

Fun fact the script or story was a lot more gruesome.

Apparently Frankenheimer decided to cut some extra gore out. He felt it was gratuitous. I find that a little interesting considering

[Show spoiler]how graphic the final kill is in The Challenge,

which from around the same time period.

I think a straight-forward remake taken seriously would be wonderful in the hands of a capable director. Without Frankenheimer this movie would not have been at all memorable. I think, hear me out, Nicolas Winding Refn would do a great job if he sticks to making it primarily a monster movie.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

^ "That scene" in Orca is over quicker. Or, at least it seems that way, since the climax and result of the female's suffering is so shocking and "out there" that it kind of overshadows everything else.

And before we get to the dogs in Alligator, there's also the scene at the gator farm.

I'd don't like seeing animals suffer either, but it adds a lot of grit and grimness to these '70s movies. It's something that's rarely touched on nowadays. While I wouldn't argue that Jaws is the superior film, Orca is hardly the cheesy rip-off its reputation would suggest. I think it's very good.

Oh, I agree. These '70s films manage to be psychologically disturbing in a way that feels authentic and makes you feel sick to your stomach, and that's not something you see as much in the previous or following decades. There's an unrelenting grimness and sense of realism that genre films of this period seemed to capture more effectively.

It's a big reason the 1970s are my favorite decade in cinema history.

[darkness2918]

For those that want to watch before blind buying this it’s now on Prime Video. I watched it earlier & will definitely be picking up the BD.

[Vixen of the Night]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

No thanks. One of the great things about '70s movies like Prophecy is the seriousness with which they treat the subject matter. The parable of the story, its theme, is lost if you make it a comedy. And if you think it's already a comedy just because it has a giant mutant bear in it, that's on you.

Though, your ending sounds like a direct lead-in to an It's Alive remake. It's the '70s Monster Movie Remake Cinematic Universe!

I don't think the movie is a comedy, but it does have unintentional comedy in it as a result of the hammer you over the head with the message seriousness that tells the audience how to feel vs it happening genuinely. But that's part of it's charm in my opinion.

[Show spoiler]It's similar to Christian movies(like Pure Flix stuff) that over preach to the audience and beat the message into you vs allowing the viewers to come to their own conclusions. If only it were that simple in reality. But sometimes these simple black and white stories are a nice escape from reality if only real life worked that way.

And with the way the world is going today, with idiots not believing in global warming despite the evidence("Nothing to see here") and idiots trying to do good, but wind up causing more harm to nature like in the link below. I think it's ripe for a modern take on the story-line, and make it really disturbing, depressing/bleak and darkly amusing in an ironic way.

http://savetheeaglesinternational.or...y-thought.html


Oh and Prophecy does have some serious scares in it though. The opening sequence is very atmospheric, numerous bits throughout pack a punch, and the last half of the film has some terrifying suspenseful and well done set pieces.

But like I said, there is some unintentional humor in it mostly from the main actors William Shatner/Charlton Heston type of acting. He gives it his all, but some of his dialogue is too on the nose preachy as the screenwriter was trying to hammer home the message.

I can't wait for the release though! Since I do like the movie and can take it mostly seriously, but there are bits that just amuse me for reasons stated previously.

Oh, there was an It's Alive remake in the early/mid 2000's that was direct to video. I haven't seen it, but it was probably nothing special.

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by Vixen of the Night

Oh, there was an It's Alive remake in the early/mid 2000's that was direct to video. I haven't seen it, but it was probably nothing special.

I've seen it, and you're right. You didn't miss much.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Vixen of the Night

I don't think the movie is a comedy, but it does have unintentional comedy in it as a result of the hammer you over the head with the message seriousness that tells the audience how to feel vs it happening genuinely. But that's part of it's charm in my opinion.

[Show spoiler]It's similar to Christian movies(like Pure Flix stuff) that over preach to the audience and beat the message into you vs allowing the viewers to come to their own conclusions. If only it were that simple in reality. But sometimes these simple black and white stories are a nice escape from reality if only real life worked that way.

And with the way the world is going today, with idiots not believing in global warming despite the evidence("Nothing to see here") and idiots trying to do good, but wind up causing more harm to nature like in the link below. I think it's ripe for a modern take on the story-line, and make it really disturbing, depressing/bleak and darkly amusing in an ironic way.

http://savetheeaglesinternational.or...y-thought.html


Oh and Prophecy does have some serious scares in it though. The opening sequence is very atmospheric, numerous bits throughout pack a punch, and the last half of the film has some terrifying suspenseful and well done set pieces.

But like I said, there is some unintentional humor in it mostly from the main actors William Shatner/Charlton Heston type of acting. He gives it his all, but some of his dialogue is too on the nose preachy as the screenwriter was trying to hammer home the message.

I can't wait for the release though! Since I do like the movie and can take it mostly seriously, but there are bits that just amuse me for reasons stated previously.

Oh, there was an It's Alive remake in the early/mid 2000's that was direct to video. I haven't seen it, but it was probably nothing special.

I haven't seen the 'It's Alive' remake either, but from what I gather they up'ed the gore and went with an R-rating. The original in PG form was nightmare inducing.

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by Bobbyjoe766

Agreed. Just started reading Peter Straub’s Ghost Story (50 pages in), and already it sh*ts on the 1981 film.

that's a terrific book While I enjoy the cast and the atmosphere of the movie very much, the book indeed blows it completely away!

[blackadder213]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

totally agree, the one sheet poster for "It's Alive" was also super creepy

Now that you mention it, the TV spot for that film terrified me. "There's only one thing wrong with the baby...it's alive" with the heartbeat in the background...

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by blackadder213

Now that you mention it, the TV spot for that film terrified me. "There's only one thing wrong with the baby...it's alive" with the heartbeat in the background...

oh hell yes