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Old 10-06-2022, 03:09 AM   #901
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This thread title when abbreviated on the main page still gets me every time.
I suddenly hope its a 4K scan of the original including the discovered Perspecta mix and a non Superscope version...then my hopes are dashed yet again.

Guess I shouldn't be foruming with the sleep no more mantra.
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Old 10-06-2022, 01:05 PM   #902
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is this version worth picking up in spite of its shortcomings or should I just settle for the standard blu-ray
Yes, it blows away all of the old Blu-ray editions despite its issues
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Old 10-06-2022, 01:06 PM   #903
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Read a few posts back before you jump on this: The recent complaints are about the audio, and the SF release has much better audio levels and a corrected spot where the Kino drops a chunk of audio altogether. I can't verify as I don't have the SF one, but the other members pointing this out typically are spot-on with assessments like this.
I get that there is a line of relatively unimportant audio missing (like Spaceballs), but the Kino release looks SO much more filmlike its definitely worth the tradeoff, by far, IMO.

Grain turns mushy in SF release
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Old 10-06-2022, 05:54 PM   #904
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I get that there is a line of relatively unimportant audio missing (like Spaceballs), but the Kino release looks SO much more filmlike its definitely worth the tradeoff, by far, IMO.

Grain turns mushy in SF release
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Sigh... Nobody is denying those qualities; they are simply saying the audio is not as good as the video. Some of us value audio equally with video, making it important information. The dismissal of some on here implying that to point out the (obvious) audio issue is somehow nit-picking perfection is downright idiotic.

Is the PQ on this 4k excellent? Yes. Is the audio excellent? No, because it is literally missing a piece. These are facts.

Some will trade one for the other, but some of us want both.
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Old 10-06-2022, 06:01 PM   #905
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The compression is borderline garbage and the audio is messed-up. These are facts.

Still waiting on the eventual Arrow release.
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:16 AM   #906
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jesus christ all you do is ***** and moan abt bullshit in every thread . are there any releases that meet the Kyle15 standard
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Old 10-07-2022, 12:59 AM   #907
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The compression is borderline garbage and the audio is messed-up. These are facts.

Still waiting on the eventual Arrow release.
It's good enough for me for now. DV does help too. My initial disappointment in the disc dissipated after coming to terms that it could have been as bad as Silence of the Lambs ended up being. I still hope Arrow gets it!
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Old 10-07-2022, 01:06 AM   #908
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jesus christ all you do is ***** and moan abt bullshit in every thread . are there any releases that meet the Kyle15 standard
No. I hate movies and movie discs. This is why I am also angry at each release and own none. Posting about them gives me intense sensual energy. My shelves are a vast desert of entertainment. Pudding and apple sauce courses through my veins. I hate everything. Remember this, and then apologize to me. I am the best user on the forum.
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Old 10-07-2022, 02:39 AM   #909
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I love how people on here are basically characterised as either extreme nitpickers who are never happy with anything or extreme format apologists who'll let a bunch of crap slide just because it's UHD. Me, I'm both
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Old 10-07-2022, 02:56 AM   #910
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I love how people on here are basically characterised as either extreme nitpickers who are never happy with anything or extreme format apologists who'll let a bunch of crap slide just because it's UHD. Me, I'm both
I came to this site to do two things, chew bubblegum & complain. And I’m all out of bubblegum!
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Old 10-07-2022, 11:11 AM   #911
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Sigh... Nobody is denying those qualities; they are simply saying the audio is not as good as the video. Some of us value audio equally with video, making it important information. The dismissal of some on here implying that to point out the (obvious) audio issue is somehow nit-picking perfection is downright idiotic.

Is the PQ on this 4k excellent? Yes. Is the audio excellent? No, because it is literally missing a piece. These are facts.

Some will trade one for the other, but some of us want both.
If people are tech savvy enough, could one not mux the audio from screen factory to the video on the kino 4k? A pain in the ass to be sure, but if one owns both discs and is really bothered?
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If people are tech savvy enough, could one not mux the audio from screen factory to the video on the kino 4k? A pain in the ass to be sure, but if one owns both discs and is really bothered?
Yes. In this particular case, an extra conversion is required, since the Shout Factory BD is 23p (23.976 fps) and the Kino Lorber UHD BD is 24p (24.000 fps), so it's more of a pain than it typically is.
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Old 05-07-2023, 03:34 PM   #913
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Has it yet been determined if the audio was a stereo downmix or just an editing goof with the missing radio content?

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As I understand this film was made in stereo and the 2.0 is supposed to be the original stereo track
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Yes. In this particular case, an extra conversion is required, since the Shout Factory BD is 23p (23.976 fps) and the Kino Lorber UHD BD is 24p (24.000 fps), so it's more of a pain than it typically is.
Well that’s the first time I’ve ever heard 23.976p called 23p.
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As I understand this film was made in stereo and the 2.0 is supposed to be the original stereo track
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Old 05-07-2023, 03:51 PM   #917
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Trivia: composer Carmen Dragon was the father of musician Daryl Dragon (the "captain" of the Captain and Tennille fame).
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Capelight will release a 4K mediabook in Germany on 27th October, incorporating the Arrow extras.

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Old 07-27-2023, 05:26 PM   #919
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Really lovely artwork there. The German text doesn't really do it for me though lol

Still, would absolutely buy this again if it got a better encode
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Old 07-27-2023, 08:55 PM   #920
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Trivia: composer Carmen Dragon was the father of musician Daryl Dragon (the "captain" of the Captain and Tennille fame).
I'm still trying to get over the fact that Captain's real surname is Dragon, and went with "Captain"...
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