New Moon Discussion Thread [put all rumors, speculation, etc here]

[1blufan]

How much it makes doesn't make it a good movie.
Phantom Menace pulled in $924,317,558 Worldwide doesn't mean it's a great movie. It's a fad, the "it" movies of the time.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by 1blufan

How much it makes doesn't make it a good movie.
Phantom Menace pulled in $924,317,558 Worldwide doesn't mean it's a great movie. It's a fad, the "it" movies of the time.

Depends on where you're standing.

If you're a studio Exec, and you worked for Summit entertainment, then having a movie almost triple it's budget in the first weekend is certainly meaning that it's a 'good movie'

If you're a fanboy on a forum board and you come into a thread just to bash something you haven't seen yet, then YMMV.

Logan

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Depends on where you're standing.

If you're a studio Exec, and you worked for Summit entertainment, then having a movie almost triple it's budget in the first weekend is certainly meaning that it's a 'good movie'

If you're a fanboy on a forum board and you come into a thread just to bash something you haven't seen yet, then YMMV.

Logan

Wrong. It means it is a good investment, not a good movie.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Wrong. It means it is a good investment, not a good movie.

Obviously context isn't your strong suit.

A good investment in a movie, means that it's a good movie. Especially if you're a production company.

Logan

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by 1blufan

How much it makes doesn't make it a good movie.
Phantom Menace pulled in $924,317,558 Worldwide doesn't mean it's a great movie. It's a fad, the "it" movies of the time.

Completely right. Making money is great for the studios, but that doesn't mean that the film is quality. A film can be absolute trash and make a ton of money because of its built-in fanbase or, as you say, being a "fad." Definitely correct.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Completely right. Making money is great for the studios, but that doesn't mean that the film is quality. A film can be absolute trash and make a ton of money because of its built-in fanbase or, as you say, being a "fad." Definitely correct.

But when a movie make's $924,317,558 world wide, you cannot call it trash, it might be trash for you but it sure wasn't trash for a heck of a lot of other people however.

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

But when a movie make's $924,317,558 world wide, you cannot call it trash, it might be trash for you but it sure wasn't trash for a heck of a lot of other people however.

I wasn't saying this or any other movie is trash. My point was that a movie that is a financial success does not directly correlate to it being a quality film in an objective sense. Of course, there are many who saw New Moon who absolutely loved it (even my roommate), which is understandable. However, there is a significant difference between a movie being a good investment and a good film. There is no doubt that the line is undoubtedly blurred almost to the point of obscurity when it comes to producers and media heads. However, even they understand when they have a film that will solely do well financially but win no awards, and when they have a film that will not be a financial success but will win awards. Take this past year's Oscar's race, with none of the films being particularly successful. Studios realized that the films were (arguably) of high quality and pushed them to the forefront of the minds of the Academy and the general population. It is a very distinct difference.

[ckent22]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

But when a movie make's $924,317,558 world wide, you cannot call it trash, it might be trash for you but it sure wasn't trash for a heck of a lot of other people however.

Well, that depends. Good is a subjective term. The film was profitable, sure. However, just because of a film's box office return doesn't mean we should go out and add it to a list of best films of all time.

[KilloWertz]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

But when a movie make's $924,317,558 world wide, you cannot call it trash, it might be trash for you but it sure wasn't trash for a heck of a lot of other people however.

Exactly. Not just in regards to New Moon, but all movies that make a lot of money can't be complete trash if it makes a ton of money at the box office and even on home video. It might be to some, but obviously a lot of people would disagree. On the flip side, just because a movie makes a lot of money doesn't mean it is an actual good movie. It's all subjective.

And I see ckent just posted something similar. Oh well.

[ryan4blu]

Originally Posted by 1blufan

How much it makes doesn't make it a good movie.
Phantom Menace pulled in $924,317,558 Worldwide doesn't mean it's a great movie. It's a fad, the "it" movies of the time.

what....

surely it wasnt a good movie, it was a great movie!!