The Dark Knight reviews and reactions. Caution, spoilers galore

[Ferris]

This was a very very good film. I went in with very high expectations, and those expectations were met. To say Heath Ledger's performance was great, is a profound understatement. Something else of note, is that once again, Bale's performance was outstanding.

I loved most of the writing. The flyovers of Gotham looked absolutely brilliant. A really, really great film which I am eagerly anticipated on Blu-ray.

[Mxr5150]

Pure and simple, the movie was a solid 10, just perfect! I need to see it again, I was on the edge of my seat throughout the movie and was excited in the theater in a way like no other movie has done before. It blasted away my expectations, and I can't wait to see what this weekend's numbers pull in. On top of all that, I am by no means a fan of Heath Ledger, and he was phenominal!

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by Billy Rickey

Can anybody please tell me why DC Comics is just going to sit by and watch Christopher Nolan turn Batman in to a fussy? Batman is supposed to have no limits but he will not kill. I hope they don't come out with a third one because look what he has done to the last two movies.

[Show spoiler]He killed Two-Face and he wasnt in the movie for an hour.

You should put spoiler tags on your last sentence. [s p o i l e r] text [/s p o i l e r].

Many haven't seen this yet. So I take it you didn't like either of the movies (Batman Begins or Dark Knight)?

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by Billy Rickey

Nolan is making Batman into a little witch with feelings

[Show spoiler]who cares about the bad guys more than he does the good guys. At the end he takes the blame for something he did not even do I mean if Batman going to take the blame for killing cops but he does not want to kill the bad guys.

you don't see anything wrong with that. And I never said I did not like the last two movies I just don't like what Nolan is doing with the Batman series.

I don't frequent the Batman comic books (for some time now) but I don't know of

[Show spoiler]him ever killing anyone (at least purposefully)

in the comics. Can you point me to

[Show spoiler]some kills he's had?

It seems out of character.

[Monkey_Boy]

Originally Posted by Billy Rickey

Nolan is making Batman into a little witch with feelings

[Show spoiler]who cares about the bad guys more than he does the good guys. At the end he takes the blame for something he did not even do I mean if Batman going to take the blame for killing cops but he does not want to kill the bad guys.

you don't see anything wrong with that. And I never said I did not like the last two movies I just don't like what Nolan is doing with the Batman series.

[Show spoiler]Batman takes the blame for killing the CROOKED COPS to instill fear BACK into the criminal populace who had become unafraid since they realized Batman has "rules". Makes perfect sense. Batman is now hated by the police force and most of Gotham. While the criminals fear him. He now only has a few who know his true intentions.

[MLK]

Originally Posted by Monkey_Boy

[Show spoiler]Batman takes the blame for killing the CROOKED COPS to instill fear BACK into the criminal populace who had become unafraid since they realized Batman has "rules". Makes perfect sense. Batman is now hated by the police force and most of Gotham. While the criminals fear him. He now only has a few who know his true intentions.

[Show spoiler]I think he took the blame for the murders moreso to keep Harvey Dent's image clean, as he was Gotham's "White Knight", and if this image was tainted, the city would be in disarray. He did this for the sake of Gotham. .

[SlmShdy1]

Originally Posted by MLK

[Show spoiler]I think he took the blame for the murders moreso to keep Harvey Dent's image clean, as he was Gotham's "White Knight", and if this image was tainted, the city would be in disarray. He did this for the sake of Gotham. .

Actually, both are correct.

[MLK]

Originally Posted by SlmShdy1

Actually, both are correct.

Yeah, I thought both were correct too. Just more so the reason I put in my response.

[LifeOfAPirate13]

I saw the midnight showing of this movie and thought it was amazing especially the role of Ledger as the Joker. I will admit I was alittle tired and was in and out of dozzing off in the first 30 min due to a long work day. Anywho that being said I have raised myself some questions here as to understand the story before I see it a second time this weekend as to a few things I found strange...

I really didn't understand the whole thing with two face and batman, why is batman feeling guilt toward Harvey Dent? It might have been something I missed in the begginging.

Why doesn't batman take off his sonar lenses when he is fighting Joker in the Construction building toward the end seemed alittle strange.

The big topic of how batman bent the gun barrel.

The whole part with Scarecrow at the beginning just didn't add up he catches him and was like "Dont let me catch you again blah blah blah" but he was one of the main villians in the first one who fought batman pretty well and now batman just lets him go after he tasered him in the eyes which I still dont understand how he is able to see in this one, that whole scene was really weird to me.

Why so short with the Two Face role it seemed that just as Dent became two face it was over rather quickly. And it appears as if he is dead at the end of this movie,his role was cool even though I would've wanted prosthetics rather than CGI for the face

But mainly I am just trying to understand the story as to why batman wants it all blamed on him at the end and again no flaming I just didn't catch some of the beginning parts after the bank scene which could've explained alittle bit more to that.

Thanks guys and if you wanna add questions of your own or you reviews on the film by all means lets have some fun!

[jj5206]

Alright I will answer all of your questions...WARNING THIS POST WILL CONTAIN A SHIT TON OF SPOILERS SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO RUIN THE MOVIE DON'T READ IT

Originally Posted by LifeOfAPirate13

I really didn't understand the whole thing with two face and batman, why is batman feeling guilt toward Harvey Dent? It might have been something I missed in the begginging.

That was because when Batman had only enough time to save Harvey Dent or Rachel Dawes he saved Harvey because joker switched there locations. So Batman thought he was going for Rachel, but Harvey was in the location. So he feels some guilt because he saved Harvey instead of Rachel, even though he intended to save Rachel.

Originally Posted by LifeOfAPirate13

The whole part with Scarecrow at the beginning just didn't add up he catches him and was like "Dont let me catch you again blah blah blah" but he was one of the main villians in the first one who fought batman pretty well and now batman just lets him go after he tasered him in the eyes which I still dont understand how he is able to see in this one, that whole scene was really weird to me.

This may be because Scarecrow is working with the fake batmans now. Not really sure, but I'm not too sure on this one.

Originally Posted by LifeOfAPirate13

Why so short with the Two Face role it seemed that just as Dent became two face it was over rather quickly. And it appears as if he is dead at the end of this movie

I think it is because Christopher Nolan wanted to show how quickly Harvey would turn. But I don't think two face is dead personally. I think he will somehow come back and have a part in the next batman movie.

Originally Posted by LifeOfAPirate13

But mainly I am just trying to understand the story as to why batman wants it all blamed on him at the end

He didn't want the people to see what Harvey became, so he took the blame on himself. So Harvey would always be remembered as a hero.

[PS3-Playb3yond]

Saw the movie last night and it was aboslutely amazing! I don't think I need to add anyting more to that, after all everything that had to be said about the movie is already said all of you guys lol.

This was a dark movie though. I mean, the Joker really scares you sometimes. He scared me lol. Heath Ledger did a fantastic job on the Joker.

I would give this movie 10/10.

[darkblueme]

Originally Posted by cj-kent

The best movie I've seen in at least three years.

By the way, score is a tricky thing and I think they handled it wonderfully.

I read the above post and immediately thought of this:

Originally Posted by saprano

I also loved the scene where joker is hanging out the back of a police car freely( my avatar) this one reviewer sums it up perfectly that scene gave me chills.

One of the most beautiful and perfect scenes in a movie I've ever seen. Period.

I don't want to analyze it too much, but I think the reason it's so effective is because it gives us a sense of The Joker's humanity. He's not a clown. He is the embodiment of chaos- something that resides in all of us. Instead of holding it in, like most of us do, The Joker revels in it freely.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by darkblueme

I read the above post and immediately thought of this:



One of the most beautiful and perfect scenes in a movie I've ever seen. Period.

I don't want to analyze it too much, but I think the reason it's so effective is because it gives us a sense of The Joker's humanity. He's not a clown. He is the embodiment of chaos- something that resides in all of us. Instead of holding it in, like most of us do, The Joker revels in it freely.

Yes that's 100% true.

and now it scares me that kind of thing is in all of us, i do let some of my insanity show sometimes

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by darkblueme

I read the above post and immediately thought of this:



One of the most beautiful and perfect scenes in a movie I've ever seen. Period.

I don't want to analyze it too much, but I think the reason it's so effective is because it gives us a sense of The Joker's humanity. He's not a clown. He is the embodiment of chaos- something that resides in all of us. Instead of holding it in, like most of us do, The Joker revels in it freely.

Exactly....and he feels a sense of euphoria during chaos, which they captured beyond brilliantly!

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by LifeOfAPirate13

I really didn't understand the whole thing with two face and batman, why is batman feeling guilt toward Harvey Dent? It might have been something I missed in the begginging.

He feels guilty because he didn't get him away in time and his face got destroyed. Also, because he meant to go after Rachel, but instead got Dent, even though he knew that Dent was the "right" choice.

Why doesn't batman take off his sonar lenses when he is fighting Joker in the Construction building toward the end seemed alittle strange.

I would imagine because it's dark, and it's easier to see with sonar than it is in the pitch black.

The big topic of how batman bent the gun barrel.

They show him with some sort of hydraulic tool in his hand. The same tool he uses to slash open the side of the van as Scarecrow is driving.

The whole part with Scarecrow at the beginning just didn't add up he catches him and was like "Dont let me catch you again blah blah blah" but he was one of the main villians in the first one who fought batman pretty well and now batman just lets him go after he tasered him in the eyes which I still dont understand how he is able to see in this one, that whole scene was really weird to me.

He wasn't talking to Scarecrow, he was talking to the Batman clones, which is why the Batman clone immediately asks him ". . . why are you different from us," to which Batman replies, "I'm not wearing hockey pads." Also, Batman didn't taser Scarecrow in Batman Begins, Rachel did, and it didn't get him in the eyes, it just got him in the face.

Why so short with the Two Face role it seemed that just as Dent became two face it was over rather quickly. And it appears as if he is dead at the end of this movie,his role was cool even though I would've wanted prosthetics rather than CGI for the face

It's already a 2 hour and 40 minute movie. The character of Harvey Dent is much more important to the story than Two Face, at least in this story.

But mainly I am just trying to understand the story as to why batman wants it all blamed on him at the end and again no flaming I just didn't catch some of the beginning parts after the bank scene which could've explained alittle bit more to that.

Gotham needs a hero after everything that has gone on. Gotham believed in Harvey Dent, and if they knew what Harvey Dent became and the actions he took, a beacon of light corrupted by the Joker, the spirit of the whole city would be broken. Gordon says that Batman is "the hero that Gotham deserves, but not the hero it needs." This is in contrast to Batman's assertion that Dent was not the hero they deserved, but the hero they needed. Batman is the Dark Knight to Dent's White Knight, and will be a "silent guardian," "hunted" by Gordon but still remaining Gotham's protector. He takes the fall because that's what's best for the city.

[GreenScar]

BSteke: Very well put.

!!!Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on your point.... Cant compair two flix shot in completely different "modern technology eras"! Advances in soundtracks and filming give Ironman a slight advantage. Dont get me wrong, Ironman Rocks, but TDK was better as a whole.

I'm talking about one having to deal with the characters Origin and the other having everything established. The Red and Gold suit in Iron Man doesn't even show up until after the movie is half over. In the Dark Knight, the movie could start with Batman. My point is, a closer comparison to The Dark Knight will be Iron Man 2. These two characters are so similar. It's hard to compare any other comic character to them (neither of them have powers, they have to rely on their wealth, weaponry, and minds). Batman Begins < Iron Man < The Dark Knight.

[Lsalas76]

I saw TDK on Friday and thought it was awesome(I have yet to see it in IMAX though but hopefully sometime this week). The joker was just incredibly awesome. At first I thought it was a little slow in the begining but it certaily picked up big time. Although the people may want it, I don' think they should make a sequel because it would be too much overkill and would start to get cheesy. They should leave it as is and not mess with a great movie. Look at what happened to the Spider-Man franchise and to the old Batman Franchise, the Superman Franchise. They should quit while they are ahead and stay on top. With that said, I think there will still most likely be at least a 3rd Batman movie. If there is a sequel I think it should be the Riddler and I think John Malkovich should play him.

[BStecke]

The number of entries into the series isn't why those franchises became cheesy. That's the fault of the studio/writer/director etc. to cash in on a great franchise. It's possible, as with Batman comics, to continually turn out a great product. The character's been around for almost 70 years, I don't think the quality is limited to two films. It'd be REALLY tough to top Dark Knight, but there are plenty of stories to be told that could give it a run for its money.

[GreenScar]

Originally Posted by BStecke

The number of entries into the series isn't why those franchises became cheesy. That's the fault of the studio/writer/director etc. to cash in on a great franchise. It's possible, as with Batman comics, to continually turn out a great product. The character's been around for almost 70 years, I don't think the quality is limited to two films. It'd be REALLY tough to top Dark Knight, but there are plenty of stories to be told that could give it a run for its money.

I made this point earlier, they need to get a great story first. Don't make the movie to cash in. Let the story dictate. If the director and the actors are passionate about the story they are telling, then the movie will be great (for whatever character the movie may be about).

[sowecrazy]

you know, i wonder since after heath ledger, died christphor nolan kept acouple scenes out of the dark knight 2 possible use for the 3rd one, cause THEY BEETER NOT REPLACE HIM, or just have a whole new villin